Erin114

How do you know I don't have an issue with other things? Have you stalked my profile? I think you'll find I rant about a lot of things I don't find acceptable. And no I have no issue with kiss or sex scenes. I never said I did, re-read my words before you try to turn it into something I haven't said. Sex doesn't bother me, sex is natural and normal and including it in dramas is perfectly acceptable. It isn't necessary but if it is included it's fine. So, tell me, what don't you understand about what I'm saying because I've sent so many messages explaining and you seem to be here purely for an annoying rant which quite frankly as I just said is annoying. I only gave my honest thoughts

So one minute I'm a little kid and the old lady? Make your mind up. But I'm not going to keep messaging because I'm tired of your immaturity. I am allowed my morals and values and what I believe to be right and wrong. And by the way I'm not saying dramas can't have kiss scenes, I think it is totally acceptable for them to have them, even sex scenes. What I am saying is that it is also okay for dramas to not include it and people don't need to get so frustrated just because it doesn't have them sorts of scenes. As for actors, I have absolutely no idea why you brought homophobia up because I never once mentioned it. What I said is that sometimes there are times when actors will agree to do something but for whatever reason it might turn out that they actually don't feel comfortable with it. That isn't their fault, it's human nature. And also, sometimes in dramas the director has specific people in mind and hires them but they may not feel comfortable doing something. I never said it was because they were homophobic, I said it was because they might not want to do a kiss scene. This can be a man with a man, a woman with a woman, a man with a woman or a woman with a man. If you want to continue to twist my words and make me out to be some homophonic old church woman who can't even stand to watch people kiss then sure go ahead but you know full well that isn't what I mean in the slightest and I'm tired of trying to explain myself to someone who so clearly has a determined thought that they are right and everything I say is wrong

I'm not religious and I never have been. I also don't watch Disney. And for your information I'm actually an adult who studies social interactions in college so I know more than most people on subjects such as these. I watched to the end in the hope it would clarify what actually happened and to see if it made more sense and when it didn't I was angry that they thought it was acceptable to leave it like this. Also the only one causing a rant is you because you commented. Maybe you should grow up and start understanding life problems before you make rape and non consential sex seem like a fun joke

Well if you want to look at it in that view point then fine. But it does not change the fact the company that made the show would know better and should have scenes like this when this issue had become so big in recent years. Maybe its different in your culture I don't know but where I'm from if someone does not verbally give consent then it is rape and in shows unless they purposely show rape scenes for the plot, you never ever make dramas with this content where it seems so disgusting and wrong

You clearly dint understand the definition of rape. If somebody does not verbally give consent then it is rape. He pushed him away multiple times just from a kiss. He struggled against him whilst he was holding him down on a bed and stripping him. Not once did he give consent to what was happening, instead he fought against it. And the whole reason the last episode was even worse than that is exactly your reason. Afterwards they made it seem like it was okay what happened just because they love each other. The whole scene from begining to end was disgusting and toxic.

Most bls are not like this but China has made a habit of including scenes like this and its just not acceptable

You can laugh at what I say all you want but the truth is this isn't consent and therefore is a form of rape. It is rape.

It is common but I don't think it needs to be. That's just something that we have made common in the way we create film and TV. It's refreshing to see dramas that break such an annoying stereotype

Actually I do. I don't think it is necessary for any drama to have a kiss. Of course it's nice if they do but it isn't necessary and when people make it into a big deal it is wrong. Also the bl fandom always make a big deal as if over sexualising gay relationships is totally acceptable. They are people to, the actors and real gay people and I'm sure they don't appreciate it when people force these stereotypes of being horny sexual beasts with nothing to them but physical romance. But that is a problem focusing on just the bl fandom, i still don't think it's acceptable to constantly nag for kisses in any drama. What if there is a valid reason there isn't one, it doesn't fit the story or the actors aren't comfortable. How would you feel if you pleaded for a kiss in a drama only for them to do it but it turns out you just made the actors feel incredibly uncomfortable. Would you feel good? Because I know I certainly wouldn't if something I had said made someone do something that they hated. Yes theyre actors, but they're people too. That's just my opinion.

And yes China have made that too common in gay dramas. They wouldn't ever do that in hetero dramas and they need to stop doing it because it's totally unacceptable

I can't believe you actually just said that. Since when has there ever been a difference between the level of rape. Rape is rape end of question. Rape is rape when there is no consent. That is the definition. He did give consent so it is rape. There is no harsh or soft rape. And the fact they actually made it seem like it was totally fine afterwards just because he loved him made it even more despicable. I think people need to have lessons on what consent is because clearly people actually think that just because they give up struggling, it means they gave consent. And also dramas don't have to have kiss or bed scenes, you can enjoy dramas that don't have them. I think it's wrong that people have stereotyped bl dramas with needing to have steamy scenes because bl dramas are supposed to represent real life gay relationships and in real life relationships they can love each other and be happy without steamy scenes. Honestly the bl fandom just pisses me off with these totally unacceptable views on gay relationships.

He kissed him multiple times and he refused. Clearly he didn't want anything to happen. He pushed him away and then next thing you know the guy is yanking off their clothes forcefully on the bed, again whilst the guy is trying to stop him. Please, tell me when he gave him consent to even touch him let alone kiss him or have sex with him? Where is the consent? He clearly did not want it to happen. To even kiss, let alone have sex, there must be consent or it is rape. Not only was there not consent but he clearly was struggling to stop him, it is obviously rape

Without spoiling too much I would 100% recommend NOT watching the final episode. It's disgusting

You do realise that in real life gay relationships are the same as straight ones and it is not all about kissing? I'm sorry but are you seriously not going to watch a drama just because it doesn't have steamy kiss scenes? Do you do the same for straight dramas too? Probably not. Also the issue isn't the lack of kisses in this drama, its the full on rape scene in the last episode that makes this drama horrific

I just did a post on the feed exactly about this. I was going to give this show a good 7 or even 7.5 but after that bed scene it's not even a 6 for me. The fact they still think things like that are acceptable to put into dramas is disgusting. It doesn't matter that afterwards he seemed okay with it, he was forced into it in the first place, did not give consent and the other man basically raped him. He wanted to prove their feelings so badly he forgot to actually consider how the other guy might feel being forced into it. And then the ending where they just made it seem like it was totally fine, they were happy together, loved each other and now openly admitted it. It's like they think it's totally normal for that to happen and it's okay because the guy loves him

Unfortunately someone told me viki isn't free :(

Unfortunately someone told me viki isn't free :(

oh I guess if you have viki pass it doesn't show you that, I just assumed it's free

If the VPN didn't work you can watch it on Viki

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viki

It depends where you're from as to whether it will be there. But even if it is it's not subbed I believe

It's going to end up being another You're Laugh Is Very Alluring :(