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Entertaining
Even though this drama follows a similar line from others, there are some new elements that add to the story. That made the series very entertaining for me, so I recommend it. My problem is that these elements should be better worked on, and I found them shallow.- First, there is an "almost rape" scene. I do have a huge problem with this type of scene, but I found it ok in this case. The problem is that nothing happens after this event. As in many Thai BL series, there are no discussions or implications about it. I did not find totally bad, but I found it shallow.
- Second, having really cool female characters is a good point. However, there is a clear misogynistic view of them.
- Third, there is an age gap for a couple. Again, I thought it was a good line but they could deepen this subject.
Summarizing - It is a light and entertaining BL, so I do recommend it. But do not expect a great story, it is too superficial for this.
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The best way to enjoy Water Boyy is not to think of it as a BL Series
First of all, yeah... the acting was bearable at best. Even tho, right now I don't care about the acting anymore unless it's a real-real baaaad acting hahaha so I'm not gonna go to deep in this matter.* One thing I read through the Internet is that people didn't feel ok with FahPan, actually, I liked their relationship. Most of the comments were about why turn Pan into a straight or Bi, and I ask, why not? I mean, people can change tastes, if we turn straights into gay/pan/bisex/etc for the sake of a BL, why don't give more room for queer to change too? So, at least for me, it wasn't a big deal. But I have to agree that the beginning of them was odd, I will never understand how do people fall in love with the one who is bullying you? I mean, I know about Stockholm and Lime syndrome, but still... in the end, I think they are a good match, they balance the relationship pretty well and Fah can manage Pan if he wants to, is just that he doesn't want to sometimes hahaha Also, I know they seem like good friends, but, aren't the best relationships like that? I think they did a good couple.
Speaking of Pan, I don't see her as a hateful character like a lot of people said through the forums. Actually, she reminds me of my sister who grew up being the only girl among 10 boys (cousins), she is kinda thought, she likes to fight and can knock down a guy but still have her femininity... So Pan, being lesbian acted just like other boys, yes, she was rough but she was rough just with her teammates, she never bullied anyone outside the club, and I read that one of the main issues was her bullying around the college, I can't remember that she did that. Among his friends, well, we usually bully our friends, didn't we? so I think she ain't that bad. The only thing that was out of her hand -as long as I remember- is the way she bullied Fah because she was jealous, that's unforgivable, but, the only rant about that attitude actually.
* Then we have MinWan, even when I kinda like them as side characters, they didn't grow too much into me. I understand why they ending falling for each other, but I don't see them as an outstanding couple. I don't mind their screentime but their inconsistently ups and downs, it was just too much. One thing that I believe was nonsense was the addition of Coach Mai, that was You (the Netflix show) before You. And she added that weird feeling to their relationship, I wanted to skip all her scenes (even when she is hot) because I didn't understand why(?) she was so important even being Min's ex.
* Finally, we have WaiiApo, I need to say that the kisses weren't what people promised me. They were 'better' but at the same time weren't «good». But I won't mind them, Newwie improved with Tay in DBK so I feel served hahaha. Somehow, I understand why Waii couldn't break up with Fay, let's be honest, it's not easy to understand that kind of feeling if you have been living all your life thinking that you are straight and somehow a boy comes into your life and changes everything. I kinda understand why a lot of fans were disappointed about it (I read the rant in a lot of discussions) but, at least me, I understand why that development. I also understand why Fay kept around knowing that Waii had mixed feelings. I mean, I think we all have done the same when we are so in love and don't want to lose someone, it happens, so, for me, that was a real development (don't talk about the acting for it). But, I have to be honest, I really think it was more of Waii's fault for all that drama. For someone so imposed towards others, he was kinda indecisive, and non-straightforward. His relationship with Apo was also weird, my only explanation is that Apo had a crush on Waii since the beginning, plus the admiration that he had for Coach Tee made him being so naive.
* The pace of the series was sometimes rushed and sometimes too slow, it's something that we need to endure hahaha but overall was ok. I think that at the end of the season the story was better. I think that they lose a chance to a good love story with KluayAchi, they were more interesting than MinWan, even when -again- Kluay was more kind of a bully than a prospect.
I read that the ending was rushed and that disappointed a lot of people, I think they were talking about the championship. TBH since I realized that that for a series called Water Boyys they spent so little time on the water, I didn't expect a big championship so I was ok with it hahaha
The best of the series:
- The development of the relationship between Waii and Coach Tee, I think they managed pretty well that storyline.
- Apo's hotness.
- The rehearsal for the show, I have the biggest laugh seeing them all dressed as princesses and running through the college.
The worst of the series:
- The drama about the club, I don't think that there was a really good reason for all the problems that the club needed to go through... mostly were easily fixed but the characters took too much of it (except for the championship)
- It wasn't outstanding, just entertaining.
- The almost rape and how it was -or wasn't, actually- addressed, heck the what?
Overall, you can watch it just to lose some time but, again, is not the drama of the century, so, just enjoy the ride and maybe you will never look back again...
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Wrong, that the summary
The ONLY positive thing about this series was the 1st episode, and only because the friendship between the Pan (the lesbian girl) and the rest of the swimming team, everything else is trash. And I have to specify that their friendship during the first episode because after they friendship is used so they can bully and manipulate Fah.I knew this series existed because I was seeing through the "lesbian character" tag, and the way they treated her... OMFG... Pan is in college, so 18 - 20ish, and has a crush on a highschooler (I'm guessing she's 17). I'm 20 and can't see 18 yrs as potential partners so I DIDNT like the age difference here; unless they later clarify that their 18 and 17, or 18 and 18, it's not okey. If that doesn't bother you then Pan ways to pursue the highschooler (I don't remember her name) should. For all we know that girl is straight and in love with Fah, and Pan manipulates Fah into helping her manipulate that girl... (in the end i'll add a spoiler I didnt saw but read it happens so...)
The main couple, even worse. How? you may ask, well Waii almost rapes Apo, and they act as if it didn't almost happened.
Waii's father has a relationship with his best friend (Waii's best friend), so there's another HUGE age gap. And from what I saw they started daiting while the dude was his couch so a kinda student/teacher relationship.
It's just problematic, there's so much sexual harassment and assault for 3 episodes that I had to stop.
Spoiler:
Apparently the lesbian character ends up with a man so I wouldn't have gotten the wlw representation that I was looking for when I started this shitshow.
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Water Boyy A Heart Felt Comedy .
A Great COMEDY with romance, plenty of comedic action but, where was there a school that never had there comedic moments, school is all about finding yourself, and the self exploration that comes with being in a constant search for knowledge and acceptance, everyone try's to fit in,the actors are all young and willing to take things to the next level. all the while doing there best to get there school grades up, I must admit that the school aspect is quite lacking and a lot happens outdoors mostly around the swimming pool. This drama is mostly leaning on the BL side of the characters, If you are looking for a serious school drama with more drama than swimming you should seriously consider passing this one by and prevent yourself the heart ache of being disappointed from the get go. But that said I would totally recommend this slick comedy to put you in a happy frame of mind for the duration of the series.
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if someone know for a season two please say it :D
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ACTING : umm a little bit problem for that because they didn't show their feelings to act but a little bit lang naman.
MUSIC : i like the theme song because the lyrics are good (especially in english subtitle)
REWATCH VALUE : ummm i dont know how to write this one a little biy no excitement for me
OVERALL: There are hot bodies and some funny moments, and the second BL couple is also cute.
I hope season 2 please
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Rien ne vaut les origines
Alors, restons francs, malgré plusieurs commentaires que j'ai pu lire, je n'ai pas aimé la série mais, PAS TAPER ! j'm'explique...Bon, la série n'est pas totalement nulle non plus, hein, me faites pas dire ce que je n'ai pas dit, mais il y a dans la balance plus de point négatifs que positifs selon moi.
Je vous propose donc d'approcher pour regarder en détails les plateaux de cette balance :
Les points positifs :
tout d'abord la série est un remake du film donc elle peut prendre le temps là où le film n'a pas pu le faire et elle nous présente plusieurs autres couples en plus de nos deux héros, qui plus est, des personnages hétérosexuels, homosexuels femme et homme, ce que j'ai trouvé très intéressant car, d'après moi, ajouter de la diversité c'est toujours un bon point.
Les personnages sont biens décrits, bien construits. Les jeux d'acteurs ne sont pas égaux mais certains ressortent énormément comme Victor Zheng (Min) qui joue vraiment très bien et heureusement ! Car son binôme... j'en parlerai dans la seconde partie.... On retrouve White (Fah) de Lovesicks qui nous offre, comme à son habitude, une performance époustouflante ! Et enfin, celui qui m'a bluffé le plus : New (Apo). Alors lui, à chaque fois qu'il rentrait en scène, c'est moi qu'on pouvait essorer (et pourtant je n'ai pas de piscine sous la main !), y donne chaud ce garçon ! Que ce soit dans les scènes drôles ou les scènes émouvantes il peut faire craquer tout le monde par son sourire ou son air abattu, les deux vous transportent sur un petit nuage en mode "Moooooh".
L'alchimie entre les couples met du temps à se développer mais quand elle est là, elle y reste et c'est un bonheur renouvelé de les voir se regarder dans les yeux avec intensité. Les scènes avec la bande de copains sont particulièrement agréables et sympathiques, j'en reprendrai bien une tranche à chaque fois.
Enfin, certaines phrases et dialogues sont particulièrement mémorables en matière de questionnements, ça fait réfléchir et ça donne à penser.
Les points négatifs :
Et oui, seconde partie déjà, comme je l'ai dit y'en a plus que pour la première...
Au niveau du scénario, ya des gros problèmes selon moi, ils "luttent" les uns contre les autres en se montant des stratagèmes dignes d'élèves d'école primaire, voire de collège mais, rappelons le, ils sont à l'université ! On a envie de leur tirer les oreilles pour leur crier dans le pavillon : "Oh, tu te calmes ! Tu comprends ce qui se passe ?! Quand je te parles, y'a rien qui gigote là-haut ?!".
Je parlais du jeu d'acteur particulièrement incroyable tout à l'heure et si on parle du personnage de Min, celle à qui il donne la réplique, Wan m'a paru teeellement molle ! C'était une torture ! Son histoire est intéressante mais quand on la connait, on se rend compte qu'elle n'a pas évolué si ce n'est qu'elle ne porte plus de lunettes et qu'elle s'attache les cheveux différemment, tu parles d'un parcours initiatique !
En parlant de filles, je m'attaque maintenant à Pan. Mais quelle déception ! L'enthousiasme que j'éprouvais au début de la série concernant ce personnage s'est effondré comme un soufflé à la voir utiliser des plans niveau cour de récré de maternelle pour finir par changer d'orientation sexuelle comme ça l'arrange. Euuuh, on en parle ou pas ? Ici la série nous présente en réalité un triangle amoureux de pansexuelles (j'ai mis le féminin, car ça ne concerne que les filles du triangle) mais sans le dire. Bon, passons...
Là j'attaque le noyau dur de l'histoire et de l'acting : le couple lead. OMG ! Autant Apo est génial, autant Waii... j'arrêtais pas de hurler (silencieusement) à Earth : " mais retourne donc sur ta montagne à compter tes étoiles, tu seras plus utile !" (ceux qui ont la réf comprendrons). Alors Waii m'a foutu une claque qui avait des relents de Fuse dans la série Make It Right. C'est pas qu'il ne sait pas choisir entre Fay et Apo, c'est plutôt qu'il veut le beurre, l'argent du beurre et le c*l de la crémière en prime ! Lors du voyage de l'équipe chez Apo j'ai enfin cru que c'était bon et puis revirement total pour une fin trop amère selon moi même si la série reste sur l'image que tout va pour le mieux, j'aurais aimé un bisou comme celui auquel on avait eu droit !
Enfin, je ne vais pas m'étendre sur les actes d'agressions sexuelles qu'on peut voir, je sais que la culture est différente, d'autant plus à cette époque (pourtant pas si lointaine) mais je pense que la série aurait pu avoir le bon ton de ne pas lancer une musique romantique quand ladite scène se produit dans l'épisode 4 entre Waii et Apo.
Ah oui, à noter qu'à partir d'un moment j'ai fini par regarder les épisodes en accéléré, en ralentissant pour suivre les dialogues, mais l’intérêt n'étant presque plus présent, j'ai voulu achever le supplice.
Voilà, si vous avez réussi à me supporter jusque là, vous voyez maintenant le fond de ma pensée concernant cette série. Je ne vous conseillerais pas de faire l'impasse dessus pour tous ses points positifs mais je dois avouer que j'ai grandement préféré le film (à voir ma critique dessus ;) ). Je retiendrai de cette série les bonnes performances des acteurs, l'esprit de camaraderie qu'on y retrouve et l'inclusion dont il a su faire preuve.
Maintenant, à vous de vous faire votre avis.
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Nostalgia
Nossa, que nostalgia rever essa série... em 2017 tudo ainda era mato, e Water Boyy foi uma das séries que andaram para que hoje muitas possam correr.A série é a adaptação de um filme de mesmo nome. Traz assuntos importante, como homofobia, só que dessa vez é o pai gay que é hostilizado pelo filho. Também fala sobre bullying, descobertas da sexualidade para meninos e meninas, rebeldia na adolescência, sexo, nossa, são tantas coisas...
É uma série que consegue ser leve apesar de temas complexos. Existe uma carga dramática, existe alívio cômico, existe muita amizade.
A atuação não é 100 por cento, o elenco era muito jovem e imaturo, a fotografia e as locações são bonitas e a ost é perfeita.
Eu já revi essa série várias vezes e com certeza indico a todos.
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