I'm aware this is opening up a can of worms, but I am also absolutely of the belief that all forms of art, should generate social commentary and real life discussions.
On to the discussion I hope to have:
I am intrigued by the fact that young people in South Korea are not interested in reunification with Nth Korea, but rather, see it as irrelevant to their lives and a costly pursuit in foreign affairs.
I'm baffled by this view, simply from the perspective that this would FINALLY mean the end of the war. And potentially an end to Compulsory Military Service. This DIRECTLY affects Korean youth.
I am also vaguely aware that the governments of the day in SK, swing between SK-Japan relations and SK-NK relations. I'm intrigued to see how much of a political stance or political commentary Tempest will actually pursue.
I would love to discuss any informed insights anybody has to offer!
it'd be amazing if this kdrama actually sparked a social discussion about it, but i doubt that's gonna happen… the us is way too entangled with south korea right now (the biggest example being just last week when south koreans were literally waving us flags in the streets… for such a nationalist country, that's kinda weird). i'm not surprised they went with a heavyweight cast (all veterans who definitely have the means to survive any backlash).
i don't really remember where i watched it, i think it was with the asianboss in yt, the interviewee (young SK citizens) said they think the social gap between the countries is already too wide to close ( i keep seeing news on NK refugees wanting to go back) and reunification will be disadvantageous only for SK. The older generation interviewee said the connection between two countries are slowly dissolving (as the generations that had family separated are slowly dying) so the younger gen didn't see why the 2 countries should reunite. they're probably hoping NK will somehow just be free from dictatorship and slowly build themselves up from there.
honestly until you said it i never saw reunification as the ending of the war. IMO, military conscription would still happen even if the 2 countries made up. as third person viewer, i keep seeing SK people being very difficult in letting their 'traditions' go.
i wonder who is being benefitted with keeping NK in their current situation?
Does NK want reunification? KJU doesn’t want to be controlled—especially not by the west, and SK is controlled (somewhat) by the US.
NK is currently a force to reckon with; Nuclear Weapons , they are always working on nukes, no one really knows how developed they are in that regard
Sure, we see images of impoverished scenes from NK but no one knows the full scale of their capabilities.
And frankly, economically SK and NK are worlds apart, reunifying will take decades to stabilise, and with how conservative NK is, whew
(I’m just an outsider and this is my view on this topic(
Ren, I don't see SK as having US entanglement at all. The flag waving protestors are supporters of the ex-president Yoon and his compatriots. They clearly have Totalitarian ambitions - as exhibited by Yoon's attempt to declare martial law, and his ongoing denial of SK's rule of law. On this basis SK definitely has much in common with the current US ruling party. They were using the whole "The election was righged" argument, recently put to very effective use in the US. Totalitarian tactics; to try to get back into power, (Election conspiracy theorist’s rally in Seoul met with protests: Hankyoreh 16.07.2025).
In contrast, just 2 weeks ago, nearly 500 SK workers, at a Hyundai battery factory in USA, were arrested by I.C.E. despite having legal working visas. Many of those workers have already chosen to return to SK, despite the work being incomplete . The irony is they were there as experts, to train local workers in the specific manufacturing processes, required to run the factory without them. This clearly shows the US and SK are not so strongly allied.
SK has always had stronger ties, both +ve and -ve, with China and Japan, than it's ever had with the US.
ynymyn Kim Jong Un, the Military Dicator of NK, and the military generals, and their families, are the ones who benefit from division..
Galactic Theory, the concerns about nukes are certainly a factor, but I personally have greater fear of the nukes in the hands of the sociopathic, totalitarian leaders of Israel, Russia, US. [There I go, revealing my stance]
In a military dictatorship, as is North Korea; it's a pretty standard playbook to use brinkmanship and shows of might, to try to frighten your enemies off. Wasting billions of dollars on weapons "tests" whilst the North Korean people starve (This is a fact, not in dispute. North Korea is one of the poorest nations in the world) is one of the ways a Military Dictator maintains his power. (Stalinist Russia is one of the playbooks to look at, as a point of reference. It was never communist, nor is NK). It's like a small dog with a very loud bark.
ynymyn I think you're right that Sk'ers are just hoping NK will resolve itself. It's still puzzling to me though, that the ever present danger from across the DMZ can be so easily ignored in your day to day life. And reunification as a solution is considered too expensive and irrelevant.
This idea just really struck me, when it was raised in Tempest. It was another personal reminder for me; that my perspective is mine alone, and EVERYONE has their own unique perspective, which absolutely forms how we view our world.
I suppose it makes perfect sense really. Anything you're exposed to on a daily basis, becomes normal. I suppose my normal is so safe and secure , here in Australia, that I just can’t imagine being opposed to something I perceive as a potential solution - to the dreaded Compulsory Military Service and to the ever present risk of military conflict and death. But yes you're probably right, that conscription would continue anyway.
In that regard I think Korea would have a MASSIVE cultural shift if it changed its conscription to being, everyone, not just males...
hi toot! considering the history between sk x japan, i don't believe they'd ever choose to side with japan and china just to push the US aside... also, for sk and nk, their war never actually ended, it just “paused,” since they weren't the ones who signed the so-called “peace” agreement; it was the US and another country (i can't remember exactly, maybe china or some european country, as usual). that's also why, even today, they're still not really “good” with each other. now, looking at the current history and recent events, i still think sk has a long way to go if they ever want to remove US influence from their territory. honestly, i find it really hard to imagine, not only because of how much the US has shaped their culture in the past years (kdramas aren't the same anymore, their music is heavily american-influenced, and even the korean language is full of english words now), but also because of all the US military bases there.
maybe at some point south koreans will start to rethink and want to distance themselves from the US, but it won't be that easy (the US won't let go). plus, there's the messy sk x japan history and china's terrible image in global media (certainly under US influence). it's really a shame. i honestly believe a unified korea would be the best for everyone, and it would make them stronger.
Hi ren 😁
Nice to chat with you again ❤️
...for sk and nk, their war never actually ended,..
Yes that's the reason behind my central thesis. Reunification would end the war ...between North and South Korea.
I don't believe SK is interested in joining with China or Japan or ANY other nation. But historically, culturally and economically...the ties are much more significant within SK's own region, than with the US
.Australia also has a sh@t-load of US military bases. A pretty disturbing one being PINE GAP (if you want to go down a google rabbit hole) ...and a Chinese company owns the Port of Darwin (in Northern Territory Australia). Maybe these factors influence my perspective on the whole "South Korea is a vassal state of the US", thesis. No-one ever questions Australia's independence. The US having interests in SK and attempting to assert what I see as a militarist, colonialist control over MANY other parts of the world over time, doesn't necessarily mean those other parts of the world are "controlled" by the US. But again, this is just my perspective.
On another note .. I'm ialso interested to see if the shift in SK Government to a 'progressive' party, will change or influence the views of young people, around reunification.
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