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ElanneH:

I think I give it on trying to catch up with this thread and diligently reply to everyone, me and murderbee we just went through war in TSTR comment section and I think that burned me out :)) I'm so sorry, guys, I'm a bad club member :/

But I'll just say I totally get you, guys, when you said submissive ML doesn't automatically mean dominant FL. I wish Wanyao was more forward with him, because when she is, it's beautiful. I think the bar is just so low, when a drama rises to it, even crosses it, I'm clapping like a seal.

Li YunRui for boytoy roles - always and forever.

@murderbee, Idk have you checked out 'You Have My Heart'? It's pretty decent and ML really is just the skinniest scholar :)) Looking at it, it's like you take He Simu from LBTG and Yan Shang and put them together in a mini drama :)

I know how you feel, I read along conversations and it can be hard to keep up! But it's always nice to hear from you!!

I wish she was more forward too. I love the little moments we get now and then when she DOES make a move or assert herself, but sadly she isn't a truly dominant FL. Maybe we'll get some more of that later in the show? I can only hope haha.

Same here lol, my expectations are very low and this drama has surpassed them in a lot of ways for me! I'm feeling hopeful for Shadows of Desire...

murderbee:
I thought the FL was a bit autistic-coded too! She’s really not the typical FL you see everyday, even in RR media 🤭 While reading both the novels, I’m thirsting over the FLs and MLs so muchhhh

I know the feeliiiinnnggg- these FLs are too muuuuuch (in the best way) 😩

murderbee:
I’m going to keep reading the SoD novel even though I know I’ll regret it 😔 I can’t help myself!

We gotta prepare for the disappointment... Though, with how TStR has been disappointing me with certain things... I'm starting to doubt if I'm stable enough to handle reading the novels first... 😬

murderbee:
China is just bolder. I feel like Chinese fans LOVE taboo and different topics than what’s considered “normal” because we’ve been so oppressed in what we’re allowed to watch 😭

I keep thinking the same thing! 😂 Whenever I hear of a plot that leaves me shuddering it's somehow always Chinese! But it's a very natural response to the level of censorship that's been going on...

murderbee:
My Douyin page is literally just GB, BL, and GL content and it’s BEAUTIFUL 🥹 the amount of GB content I’m finding is mwahh *chefs kiss*

The DREAAAAM!!! Do share your finds with the rest of us!! 🥺

Actually, while I have you here and I know you know Mandarin and will probably have an easier time finding info than me, do you know anything about the drama Zhu Ying Zong Liao Luan? I've been wanting to watch it for forever, but I can't find it subtitled anywhere (only raw on YT). I kinda stumbled upon the poster by chance in some odd subreddit, but even googling it, I can't find much else on it... From what I was able to gather, both leads seem to be crossdressers and ML is a concubine married to FL's dad(???). It seems thoroughly RR and set in the republican era, so I'm bummed it's not subbed anywhere, but maybe I can still watch it raw if I have a bit more info on what's going on 👉👈

murderbee:
If I ever exist in a world the CCP disappears (or they just start producing everything overseas) I’ll genuinely ascend. They’d MURDER every scene! They already do GB so well with the censorship, just imagine without 😭😭😭

We must keep manifesting- This day MUST come to us at some point, PLEASE!!!

murderbee:
I also love a slender build in my men 😏

🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝There's not enough of this!!!

murderbee:
I NEED this to awaken the subby RR man in him PLEASE 🙏 he’s so god at that open-mouthed innocent expression, and the styling in this is doing him wonders.

Ahahahaha, you took the words right out of my mouth!!! I keep staring at his lips, too. He looks so beautiful and innocent, yet... definitely not quite so innocent 😂 He's absolutely gorgeous and he killed it in this role!! Please let this be an awakening!!

murderbee:
I’m gonna need that fix-it fic when you’re done btw 😁

Absolutelyyyy!! 💓

ElanneH:
I'm so sorry, guys, I'm a bad club member :/

No such thing, participation is however you want and whenever you want 😌

ElanneH:
But I'll just say I totally get you, guys, when you said submissive ML doesn't automatically mean dominant FL. I wish Wanyao was more forward with him, because when she is, it's beautiful. I think the bar is just so low, when a drama rises to it, even crosses it, I'm clapping like a seal.

I completely get where you're coming from. The drama is still giving us a lot, it's just hard to not feel some type of way about it when the FL is so clearly made to be more submissive for no good reason whatsoever 😔 I just wish we could get a well-written drama that's thoroughly RR where both leads are into it

ElanneH:
'You Have My Heart'? It's pretty decent and ML really is just the skinniest scholar :)) Looking at it, it's like you take He Simu from LBTG and Yan Shang and put them together in a mini drama :)

I need to watch this one ASAP!!!

murderbee:
After watching episode 23, I am pleased to announce that even Yu Cheng’an, the eunuch antagonist, was an RR man 🥹

Finally caught up to ep 23 and omgggggg!!! You know, I got that vibe when he was interacting with the grand princess in the earlier episodes, but I thought that was just me seeing RR in everything 😩 But he really is an RR man!!! He was so shy and cute back in the day!! Yet another shy cutie stuck with a domineering princess, oh, how very perfect 😂 I loved their scene!

@Arclei I could try and sub Zhu Ying Zong Liao Luan if you like! That looks really interesting actually (I love the double cross dressing when it’s actually RR and done well), and I’ll find some time to watch it and sub it. The videos may look a little bad quality because I’m not too good at editing, but I’ll try my best!

The premise of this kind of reminds me of the manhwa ‘Lady Crystal is a Man’ lol

Oh, and I CANNOT believe you haven’t watched You Have My Heart yet! It’s so good 😫

Yu Cheng’an’s death actually made me sad, even though I knew he was a horrible person. The aunt sobbing as he finally collapsed 😭

We all know about doomed yaoi and yuri, but tstr is serving us doomed RR as well 😔

murderbee:
And yeah, I watched You Have My Heart while it was airing. I loved it so much!! It made it onto my fav RR list 🤭 And now that I think about it, you’re actually right, it is like He Simu and Yan Shang in a drama together!

I also watched it when it aired, I admit I flew through last couple of episodes, because I didn't have much time back then. I promised myself to go back to it because out of the RR out there, this is one of the better ones. I just wish Hankiz Omar would chill with the botox just a little bit, just a few ml's less so the eye brows move 😂

@Arclei - I also can't believe you haven't watched it yet. You are like RR unlimited knowledge senpai😂

ElanneH:
murderbee:

And yeah, I watched You Have My Heart while it was airing. I loved it so much!! It made it onto my fav RR list 🤭 And now that I think about it, you’re actually right, it is like He Simu and Yan Shang in a drama together!

I also watched it when it aired, I admit I flew through last couple of episodes, because I didn't have much time back then. I promised myself to go back to it because out of the RR out there, this is one of the better ones. I just wish Hankiz Omar would chill with the botox just a little bit, just a few ml's less so the eye brows move 😂

@Arclei - I also can't believe you haven't watched it yet. You are like RR unlimited knowledge senpai😂

Yeah, I understand you with the Botox 😭

It impressed me so much when it aired!

Whenever I see that @Arclei hasn’t watched an RR title (especially the more popular ones) I’m just as surprised as you are lmaoo in my head they’re like the god of RR knowledge 🤣

jay:
Same here lol, my expectations are very low and this drama has surpassed them in a lot of ways for me! I'm feeling hopeful for Shadows of Desire...

You know what, I am excited and so scared for Shadows of Desire. I'm keeping my expectations low. Honestly, I liked TSTR trailer more when in comparison because I felt like there would be more plot (and it is), like from the trailer, I understood what's happening - I can't tell you what is the plot of Shadows of Desire. I think the BTS they released after filming, was better than the trailer. Also went to TSTR with the knowledge that it's the same director as for Love Beyond the Grave, which I loved, so I felt that dynamic wise, it won't disappoint (and it didn't).

SOD kinda scares me with a) that trailer and b) the crew? 3 directors, all that are men, screenwriters are 2, one I can't find, the other one is a woman - Cui Ai Jun - who has one writing credit before this....

So what I'm saying I'm cautiously optimistic, if for nothing else than the author of SOD novel is the same of TSTR novel, and visually the drama looks great, but overall, it doesn't inspire confidence. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised (I hope I'll be) than disappointed🫣

murderbee:
ElanneH:
murderbee:

And yeah, I watched You Have My Heart while it was airing. I loved it so much!! It made it onto my fav RR list 🤭 And now that I think about it, you’re actually right, it is like He Simu and Yan Shang in a drama together!

I also watched it when it aired, I admit I flew through last couple of episodes, because I didn't have much time back then. I promised myself to go back to it because out of the RR out there, this is one of the better ones. I just wish Hankiz Omar would chill with the botox just a little bit, just a few ml's less so the eye brows move 😂

@Arclei - I also can't believe you haven't watched it yet. You are like RR unlimited knowledge senpai😂

Yeah, I understand you with the Botox 😭

It impressed me so much when it aired!

Whenever I see that @Arclei hasn’t watched an RR title (especially the more popular ones) I’m just as surprised as you are lmaoo in my head they’re like the god of RR knowledge 🤣

It's not that bad as she is supposed to be "ice queen" but still - she is so beautiful, just relax with that stuff a little bit 😂

I was still riding high LBTG so I was like: I can't believe I'm being fed this good so often 😂