Artist + Media + Fan = ???

twinklelie wrote: I remember when I read the article I was like WTF o.O
I was sincerely shocked. I was like seriously?! there are actual people who are doing this?

And I also read things about SuJu saesangs, man those one... wow, just wow


The thing is that the majority of saesangs are under 18 and cannot be punished by the law, if I read it correctly...

They need to change their laws...just sayin'...

I'll come back later. I need to finish a book to review and I was sucked in by the title of the thread. *shakes fist at Jeanie unnie* :p

yankumicho wrote: I fully agree with you here. No one, idols included, should be treated this way. It's inhumane to do what these kids did to Yoochun with the CCTV thing.

I saw the whole new-wife-is-horrible-blahblahblah when Oguri Shun married Yamada Yu earlier this year. Even though I joked to a friend with a phrase like "aww...another one gone", I also know that I had no chance in the first place. Girls were calling Yamada so many horrible things, and I was shocked. I've always liked her as an actress, and I'm sure that before she married Shun, many of those girls thought so too.

I think his wife is gawjuss. I'm glad that they are happy. ^^

*is hoping they make adorable babies to ooh and ahh over* XD

Jeaniessi wrote: I googled her. and I remember her from the Nodame Cantabile special. She is Gawjuss. I totally don't get the whole fangirl hostility over this kind of thing. I just don't understand it and I have worse thoughts for the haters too but I will refrain.

If Shota-kun or SJS ever find love I will wish them well. And D will be happy too. LOL!

Until he realizes that you have a much longer list of eyecandies.......:p

cityhunter83 wrote: i dont really even understand how one can claim to "hate" this or that celebrity. you do not know that person. AT ALL. having seen some things on tv and read some articles does not give you any insight into what that person is really like.

Well, if we go with all the "you don't know him/her at all" judgment about celebrities, then it really goes the same that you cannot really love a celebrity either cause you have no idea what's he or she like. You can only go "(s)he's talented" and that's it. But we all go spazzing around and fantasizing about being their gfs or whatever (which is still not the point for me hating Yamada cause it's not like we're in a competition or anything). Yes, of course it's only my opinion, but I surely am allowed to have my own opinion. I don't go yelling around that someone should kill her or anything, just leave her out of my sight and I'll be okay.

yankumicho wrote: I saw the whole new-wife-is-horrible-blahblahblah when Oguri Shun married Yamada Yu earlier this year. Even though I joked to a friend with a phrase like "aww...another one gone", I also know that I had no chance in the first place. Girls were calling Yamada so many horrible things, and I was shocked. I've always liked her as an actress, and I'm sure that before she married Shun, many of those girls thought so too.

I hated here long before I had even any idea she was dating Oguri.

wrote: In order to promote the group name, agencies often select a small number of members from a group for individual promotion. Though idol group members interviewed by Kyunghyuang Shinmun said they understood the benefits of this strategy, many admitted they still felt jealousy and dislike towards more popular members, and anxiety over their own fame.

I think the main problem why this issue arises is because the Korean producers choose to have way too many members in a band. For me, 6 is already many it's just that now I'm accustomed to it. For example, there is a band Supernova which I love a lot, and there are 6 members in them, now one of them's in the army, so seeing only five people on stage is already different in a positive way (though I love the sixth one as well and I'm waiting for him to come back). But how can one imagine having 13 members like Suju, or even 7 or 8 and to expect that everyone will be treated equally? Of course then, with so many members, one has to have some 2-3 main ones by whom to identify the band, that's why unjust promotion is taking place, then resulting in unjustly bias only because the company wants so, not because the fans choose so.

catnip wrote: I think the main problem why this issue arises is because the Korean producers choose to have way too many members in a band.

Yes, I agree. Why having so many members to pay and take care of (like accomodate, dress,...)?

I think that the majority of cases of bullying lies within the concept of "older is superior to younger" which comes from Confucianism's 5 basic relationships (ruler and subject; (2) father and son; (3) elder brother and younger brother; (4) husband and wife; and (5) friend and friend. All, except the last, involve the authority of one person over another.) The dude who we call Confucius lived hell of a time ago so I can imagine that society and relationships is general were in a bit of a mess so he set up these principles. However, when this philosophy spread to Japan, for example, the status of women was lowered because before that they had been even allowed to inherit property (I mean, that's awesome such things happening in Middle Ages...)

So today you're basically allowed to treat the people younger than you like crap but I'm sure Confucius wouldn't be pleased to see this.

that article about TVXQ is just f*cking creepy. i dont understand how a society thatis so rigid about behavior could see this sort of thing in any light other than criminal.

catnip wrote: Well, if we go with all the "you don't know him/her at all" judgment about celebrities, then it really goes the same that you cannot really love a celebrity either cause you have no idea what's he or she like. You can only go "(s)he's talented" and that's it. But we all go spazzing around and fantasizing about being their gfs or whatever (which is still not the point for me hating Yamada cause it's not like we're in a competition or anything). Yes, of course it's only my opinion, but I surely am allowed to have my own opinion. I don't go yelling around that someone should kill her or anything, just leave her out of my sight and I'll be okay.

it's one thing to use exagerated language "ooohhhhh i love him!" and "ugh i hate her!" but when fans get on websites and start saying things like were said about miyavi and his wife, well that's delusional. do i love TOP? no. i think he's sexually attractive and i enjoy his music. to me it's no different than a peice of art. but there are plenty of fans out there who are delusional enough to think that they ACTUALLY love their idols.