jazme:
you're not a fan of jbls? =D i was enjoying Delicious Divorces but the recent subs are making it hard :'(
I'm def not a fan of straight J-dramas (Or Thai come to think of it) but I make exceptions for BLs cuz sometimes they are really good. I have 15 JBLS on my BL Picks list. I only have 10 straight J-dramas that I really like and have them on my Modern Day Drama Picks list.
I keep an open mind for all BLs with stories that sound good to me, but if I don't like it I will drop it like a hot potato. I tried watching Delicious Divorces a few days ago and couldn't get into it, but I hope it's a good watch for you!
For now it looks like I might be adding 5-6 new JBL titles to my fav list before the end of this year.
dora:
I can’t share images but if you google GMMTV bingo you will find plenty. Basically you make a bingo card and in each box you put criteria for a show you think they will make, like AouBoom ML show, or EmiBonnie GL, or sports BL, etc. then when they announce you see who gets a row.
Oh I see. So we make our own cards too? That could be fun. So the guesses are kinda like predictions or wishes we want to see?
Indie Art Girl:
THX Mr. P! Yeah 36 is a huge number even for big production companies!
I just watched the 10Dance trailer again for the zillionth time. No wonder it has over 1 million views, haha, cuz I know I'm not the only one.
Checked the comments and noticed a controversy over people calling it "BL" and those opposed to that label. I gave it some thought as I read through them and decided it's just not a big deal to me. I'm sure I don't understand many of the comments, but I wonder how much is semantics.
So I went to the 10Dance trailer to see what people are arguing about. There seem to be two main arguments going on. One is the difference between BL vs Yaoi. Some people say they’re the same and some say they’re different. I don’t think that argument matters. To me Yaoi is the history of BL.
the second argument is whether 10Dance should be promoted as BL. Some say it’s too limiting because BL is written by women for women. Again, to me that is the history but not the current state of BL. We have started to move beyond that. Nevertheless, 10Dance was a BL manga so to say it’s not BL is to deny the reality of who wrote it and for what market. But some people would like it to be called queer or LGBTQ because that’s more all-encompassing and includes more high quality and true-to-life stories in the genre.
there is one person saying it shouldn’t be labeled. Basically why does it need to be called “queer” or “lgbtq” or “BL””? I think that person could be homophobic but it’s unclear. If their motivation is to normalize queer stories, great. But if their motivation is to de-emphasize the MLM story, then I think that’s homophobia.
personally i think we still need to market queer stories as queer because they’re not normalized completely in society and we certainly don’t have enough representation in media. I would like to see this marketed specifically as BL because I love BL and want to show the world how great BL stories can be.
So I went to the 10Dance trailer to see what people are arguing about.
Thanks for your post. That helps! I think BL is fine too, but I understand if a drama is really adult and some might object to it. All the labels mentioned are okay.
So Bingo. Will everyone that's playing post their cards here on the GMMTV program day, which I think is the 25th? Of this month?!? That's really soon! I'll have to get my scattered thoughts in one place then. 🫢
For some of us the time diff will be a big gap. Like in waaaaay later! I think...
Thanks for your post. That helps! I think BL is fine too, but I understand if a drama is really adult and some might object to it. All the labels mentioned are okay.
So Bingo. Will everyone that's playing post their cards here on the GMMTV program day, which I think is the 25th? Of this month?!? That's really soon! I'll have to get my scattered thoughts in one place then. 🫢
For some of us the time diff will be a big gap. Like in waaaaay later! I think...
Thailand is ahead of the West so the info will actually be released really late at night for you and me and early morning for the Europeans
so I think we should post on the 24th
Thailand is ahead of the West so the info will actually be released really late at night for you and me and early morning for the Europeans
so I think we should post on the 24th
Ok! I see that bingo cards are 5 up & 5 down total of 25 boxes? At first I thought it would take forever to fill them, but it didn't after all. I just need 3 more guesses/wishes, lol.
Can someone help me find a list of GMMTV's BL actors?
The artists page of the GMMTV website, although not always promptly updated after announced changes, seems to be current right now, i.e. includes latest additions like Almond and Progress. It's inconvenient because you have to click on each photo to see the name - but it's hard to find anything else that's as correct, comprehensive and current.
On the other hand, it's kind of fun to see if one can put names to all the familiar faces.
Yeah, it's rather overwhelming. I've given up trying to keep track of 'em all.
Forgive me for being ignorant, but i don't know the difference between BL. To be honest, I only know lesb, gay, bi. The other categories or letters after that I'm already confused
T=trans (transgender)
Q=questioning
I=intersex (people born with biological traits of both male and female, or something in between)
A=asexual (people who don’t want to be in a sexual relationship to varying degrees) or aromantic (people who don’t want to be in a romantic relationship to varying degrees)
BL or Yaoi vs LGBTQIA content/History of BLs
in the 1970s in Japan, women started writing MLM (men loving men) romances (manga or graphic novels) targeted at an audience of women. Most of the women reading and writing were straight. These were called Yaoi in Japanese. I don’t know if most or all were very explicit at first. These evolved into a range of mlm romance mangas of varying degrees of explicit content. i don’t know exactly when, but they gained popularity outside of Japan and other Asian countries starting writing similar content, in both graphic and non-graphic novels. These were called various names in each country but the term BL (boy love), became popular to encompass all of it.
in 2014, Thailand made the high school series Love Sick, the first live-action series adaptation of one of these novels. (Before then countries in Asia made mlm live action content, but these were mostly “pink films,” which combined stories with what was basically porn. A few series and movies were made that weren’t Pink Films but they generally weren’t for a mainstream audience.) After Love Sick, Thailand slowly started making more and more BL shows. Asian BL shows didn’t become really popular outside Asia until COVID. Since then the genre has taken off. Most BLs still follow romance tropes and the majority of fans around the world are still straight women.
while BL is no longer written only by women for women, many people in the gay community don’t feel these shows are a realistic representation of the queer experience. when Shows like Love in the Big City or Shine came out, many people preferEd to call them LGBTQIA because they go beyond what traditional BLs typically depict, and are much more true to life.
I have been watching a lot of videos arguing about whether BLs serve the gay community or make a fetish of it. The answer is, it depends on the show and the viewer. Some people particularly feel that focusing on things like “top” and “bottom” is especially disrespectful.
I am pansexual (this is like bi, but includes being attracted to people who don’t identify as male or female. Some people say it means I love/am attracted regardless of gender.) I am married to a female/nonbinary (neither completely male or completely female) person. Because of this, and just as an intelligent person, I feel I’m allowed to speak to this issue. I think that most romances aren’t realistic, nor do i believe they need to be. The problem is when people don’t know the difference between fantasy and reality.
i Am glad BLs sometimes address issues like homophobia, parental expectations, and marriage rights. But I also want escapist content from all kinds of romances.
as far as how much we focus on sex or top and bottom in BLs, I don’t know if men who love men are bothered by this. I don’t need to know this information unless I am trying to understand the logistics of a particular sex scene. I like details to make it real. But I also like when BLs change the typical scenario so it’s not so formulaic.
There is actually still more to say, but since people have whole YouTube channels about this, there will always be more to say.
if you have other questions you don’t want to ask here you can message me anytime. I don’t consider any question inappropriate. I’m serious. I was a sex Ed teacher.
sorry for the super long answer to your very simple question.
