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Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao’s Story and Romance

windiaaa041293

 nathsketch,thanks ! ^^

@liddi.....

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nathsketch VIP
 windiaaa041293:

 nathsketch,thanks ! ^^

@liddi.....

You're welcome ( ˶⚈Ɛ⚈˵)

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Taspia

@H19279 thanks a million for your beautiful explanation 

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Taspia

I can't understand what's the problem between cang xuan and xiang liu?? I know they are enemy but why?

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H19279
 Taspia:

I can't understand what's the problem between cang xuan and xiang liu?? I know they are enemy but why?

There used to be 3 kingdoms in Dai Huang: GaoXin (or Hao Ling in the drama, Shen Nong and Xuan Yuan (Xi an in the drama?). Shen Nong was ruled by Emperor Yan. A few hundred year ago, Xuan Yuan conquerred Shen Nong and made it as a province of Xuan Yuan. The last emperor of Shen nong was killed by Yellow Emperor. XL's foster father, Gong Gong (or Hong Jiang in drama) used to be 1 of 4 generals of Shen Nong. He didn't surrender to Xuan Yuan. And he led a resistant army, fighting against Xuan Yuan. XL was not only adoptive son but also strategist of the resistant army. 

On the other hand, CX and XY were grandchildren of Yellow Emperor and his wife (queen consort) Ah Lei. Yellow emperor had some sons who were still alive but with his concubines. CX fought for the throne and in the middle of the novel or eps 39 in the drama, Yellow Emperor abdicated and passed the throne to CX. Therefore, XL and CX became enermy of each other (XL sided with Shen nong resistant army, fighting against Xuan Yuan which was ruled by CX)

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liddi
 nathsketch:
Morning guys!  windiaaa041293 asked me to share this image about the 偏爱人间烟火 song:

@windiaaa041293 

 Thank you very much for sharing. The same text is used in various articles as well about the song too.

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Taspia

Why Hong jiang wants to fight against to Xiyan? He wants to regain the power, they already lost?

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HeadInTheClouds
 Taspia:

Why Hong jiang wants to fight against to Xiyan? He wants to regain the power, they already lost?

Because that's his motherland and he sees Xiyan as foreign invaders. Like how the ethnic Chinese fought against the Mongols when they lost for 100+ years. A look through history will shows similar examples.

Some people are loyal to their country even when other sees their behaviour as foolish. Gong Gong is also a general of Shen Nong, he's not just an ordinary citizen. Not to mentioned he gave a vow that he will never give up fighting for Shen Nong against the invaders.

Edited for tone. My apology to Taspia for the tone of the original post.

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Taspia

@HeadInTheClouds. It's okay, no problem.

Respect to those people 

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Taspia

Even before meeting Xiaoyao,  Xiang Liu decided to sacrifice his nine lives on the battlefield????

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HeadInTheClouds
 Taspia:

@HeadInTheClouds. It's okay, no problem

Thank you for understanding. I don't want my unintended abrasiveness to discourage you or anyone else from engaging in the discussion. Please ask away. A fresh pair of eyes will bring new dimensions for conversation :-)

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HeadInTheClouds
 Taspia:

Even before meeting Xiaoyao,  Xiang Liu decided to sacrifice his nine lives on the battlefield????

I don't think there's a consensus on this one. Some of us believe yes, others think that he intended to be with XY, but because of her reluctance and rejections, it ended the way it did. 

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Taspia

@HeadInTheClouds, thanks for your explanation 

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liddi
 nathsketch:

And Tong Hua's Weibo post:


Thank you @windiaaa041293 @nathsketch

Screenshots of Tong Hua's older posts are particularly precious to me because her Weibo settings are such that it only goes back 6 months, so anything earlier than that are no longer visible.

Her post says this:

Let's start off with this topic. Actually, the conclusion of every story is not the real ending of those characters. On this topic, I am a very unrealistic person. I always feel that the story is just a chapter in their lives. Even though my story has ended, their lives will continue in another dimension, so the true ending cannot be found in any story.

-- Tong Hua, 13 Aug 2013

This is particularly notable because of Yang Zi's teary reaction during the recent LYF fan gathering, when she talked about Wen Xiao Liu, and how Tong Hua messaged her after roughly 12 episodes were broadcast to tell her there was a hot search saying in this world, there is no longer any Wen Xiao Liu. So in that sense, what she says is both true and false. Xiao Yao will continue to live on in another dimension, but Wen Xiao Liu no longer exists. And from Yang Zi's reaction, I get the feeling that he will not be making a comeback, even at the end after Xiao Yao leaves for Qingshui town. She may adopt a different persona, but Wen Xiao Liu is truly gone.

In that sense, I think her post only applies to those who were still alive at the end. Xiang Liu's death is an indisputable fact by the end of the novel. Unless she intended to bring a part of him back in the 4th novel she planned. To that end, I would even be happy with mentions of him before the events in Lost You Forever, in the 2nd novel with the Guifang clan and the ruler of the Underworld.  Unfortunately we will never know unless she revisits the universe again one day.

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windiaaa041293

this is a snippet of an article from one tonghua fan and his book. the text highlighted in red is something that interested me.

I have always felt that Chinese is very important, because I think that most of the communication problems between people are caused by not learning Chinese well enough. Tonghua said that this book expresses everything she wants to express clearly. But Plato once said: “Once something is written down, it scatters everywhere. It doesn’t know how to communicate with the right people, and it doesn’t know how to communicate with the wrong people.” This is what I mean by writing interpretations— —Build a communication bridge.

But I also deeply realize that there are still two or three communication problems that cannot be solved by language, and that is the cognitive differences between people due to different life experiences. There is a huge gap. Many times, people will only believe what they want to believe, and they can only get what is within their own cognitive scope. In the face of the huge difference in cognition, any verbal explanation is feeble. Obviously, Yaoliu's love is beyond the scope of some people's cognition.

Even now, Tonghua posted on Weibo saying: Stop fighting, stop fighting, Xiaoyao’s true love is Xiang Liu. so what? Some people will still say: That's nonsense. I think you don't understand love at all. It was you who took away Xiaoyao because of your sexual desire. You don't know how to write. It's because you are incompetent.

And there are some people who not only cannot get young willows, but also cannot appreciate the beauty of literary and artistic works. In the eyes of these people, if you tell her "Falling red is not a heartless thing, it turns into spring mud to protect flowers", she will only laugh. You are ignorant, isn’t it just that the corpse of the flower has rotted? You tell her, "It's better to forget each other than to live together in the world." She says it makes sense. It's really disgusting for two fishes to spit on each other.

Even if she is as beautiful as Lin Daiyu, there will still be people who say, "Isn't Lin Daiyu just pretentious? I don't want this kind of woman to be my wife." "Oh? Do you like Lin Daiyu? Then I hope you find a girlfriend who is as pretentious as she is." Not to mention our ordinary Nine-Life Xiangliu?


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