No one should try reasoning with these packs like wolve who wants to devour everything that is opposite from them. Their hypocrisy is getting exposed. 

https://kisskh.at/photos/PxoBdL_3

Why can't I see your saving grace in the Datawin Contribution List? Datawin is saying ZYZ was the saving grace of FOF. Even Pei Si Jing is on the list with 8% contribution.

Datawin's claim: 

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Al3WK2VTvegEv-Fg-W_9LA

 Nepeta 22:

Mellowrose, your last comment is not totally coherent, so I will only answer what I think you were trying to convey. Firstly, no one is stopping you from criticising another actor. That is your choice. But just because you don't, that does not mean it's wrong when another one does. 

That 'hate' word you over-use so much should be saved for more serious and valid reasons in life rather than it being used as a weapon for a petty point between actors. The worst case in this situation is the other poster is very direct, and that's rubbed some up the wrong way. It's not anything more. Like I said in the beginning, we are all entitled to have an opinion on a drama or actor (good or bad). 


Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it’s negative, but this constant barrage of rants and hateful comments about the drama for the past few days is starting to feel excessive. It’s no longer just an opinion, it’s spiraling into something much more extreme and, frankly, a little unhinged. People have every right to call out when something is going overboard and at this point it’s hard to ignore how tiresome it’s become. That person needs to chill and move on. We got the message, she doesn't like the drama, there is no need to write 100 comments about it. 🥴

Klio, by all means, I'm not telling anyone not to call out her excessive posts. My point was to say she had a right to express her opinion which is valid. I was against others for trying stop this or stifle it. So long as it's not using abusive language, this place is for debate and discussion. Finally, on MDL, you can report anyone that you feel that is operating outside of the rules.

 Mellowrose:

Dont think so highly of yourself, ur opinion Is useless and baseless.. all just fot hating and disatisfied  coz ur fv actor didnt outshine the spotlight of the ML all in ur delulu mind..u in big denial

I disagree it's not for all people that the ml is the best, for example ying lei and Bai jiu was my no 1 character, are u going to bash pple that  like diff characters?

Aaammmyy, no point reasoning with Mellowrose and their ilk. They are doing a very good job of creating hate towards their own fandom. How ironic. Soon as they mention TJR, your eyes will roll. The juvenile opinions start, and they are just using their poor star to artificially inflate their own egos. You sometimes feel for the star himself. They tarnish him and there's nothing he can do with these over-eager fans acting like his mum, who see no wrong with their son.

I liked Ying Lei & Bai Jiu's performances the most too, and director made a bad decision by not making enough scenes between them and ML because I felt so sad that they sacrificed themselves for the elite demon who doesn't even acknowledge them in an even way.

 Nepeta 22:

Aaammmyy, no point reasoning with Mellowrose and their ilk. They are doing a very good job of creating hate towards their own fandom. How ironic. Soon as they mention TJR, your eyes will roll. The juvenile opinions start, and they are just using their poor star to artificially inflate their own egos. You sometimes feel for the star himself. They tarnish him and there's nothing he can do with these over-eager fans acting like his mum, who see no wrong with their son.

I liked Ying Lei & Bai Jiu's performances the most too, and director made a bad decision by not making enough scenes between them and ML because I felt so sad that they sacrificed themselves for the elite demon who doesn't even acknowledge them in an even way.

I think they cut out so much scenes of the drama, including these two cinnamon rolls. I recall YingLei doing everything to saved BaiJiu, even at his own life and then BaiJiu doing all he can to protect YiChen for once at the end even if it meant giving his life up. The two did everything they could to protect their beloved friend

DuLayna, I had heard about that, but honestly, being cut is still the director's final decision so this is poor management. The drama had potential, but it was spoiled by over ambitious endless music video type scenes, slow motion longing posing and posturing with very little in anything storyline-wise. What I am seeing is inside the fan circle joining up the dots for this drama's misgivings. 

All the topics in the drama have been covered before in other C-Dramas, but here, it's drawn out to such a way that it's almost blank. The areas that should have been sorted like the relationship between Ying Lei and ML and Bai Jiu with ML is thin and it's actually vital, considering they die in the end. The deaths actually highlight the inequality between ML's character with these characters. I don't think it was intended to be like that. It's the failure to link these characters together which does not make me resonate with the ML's character. Too much time was spent building Yang-an with the ML and 2ML with ML. FL's character was left to isolated and out of place. 

The drama became a draggy piece filled with endless self righteous message force feeding the audience as if they're young children. Because of that, the drama seem so earnest and pious which seems preachy and dated. Strange, against a back-drop of stilted comedy and endless loud music blaring away. 

The whole effect is just a desperate attempt to ape western style aesthetics in drama/film style. This may appeal to new comers into C-Drama, who often have been fed western style dramas first, then this is good entry level into Chinese fantasy drama. But, I feel to watch C-dramas, it's unique content which is what I come to C-Drama for. If I want Game of Thrones, I'll watch that easily. I don't come to C-Drama for more of what I have seen before. 

GJM has a history to doing that. Which is why he gets a lot of international interest. On the flip side, some may stay and watch other Chinese dramas after this.

@ Nepeta 22 

A very good point was made about the (Endless self righteous messages), force feeding us how they are the most righteous people in the universe __this is why they ended up killing and betraying their closest kin and bossom friends for the so called self righteous cause... What an irony. 

 Jenny park:

@ Nepeta 22 

A very good point was made about the (Endless self righteous messages), force feeding us how they are the most righteous people in the universe __this is why they ended up killing and betraying their closest kin and bossom friends for the so called self righteous cause... What an irony. 

Yes, a bit ironic. But not in a profound way which is the sad thing. If the director wanted to make that kind of point, the story would have been set up more differently. Personally, I don't think he wanted people to resonate more with people like Ying Lei and Bai Jiu. They are written like "stock" type characters designed as almost filler roles with a bit of interest to decorate around ML and FL, but in actual fact he create more distance and even hatred towards them because they are busy going ga-ga for each other instead of caring about those around them, even when he tried so hard to push that narrative through hammy music and forced acts of kindness and endless tears to fill an ocean by the end of the series. 

I have to admit, this drama was a big disappointment. I watched on double speed and still it dragged. I never gave up hoping for a change, but sadly it left me empty and robbed.

Haha.. They gonna come after you for saying you watch in "double speed" and you are right about Bai jiu and Ying being just decoration. 

As for me, Honestly one of my biggest let down and disappointment was the overplay of this self-righteous element. I hate any form of betrayal in the name of righteous cause. 

I started to lose my interest with PSJ killing her brother and then ZYZ betraying his bossom friend. And then with many countless cliche that follows. 

There are many actors who always play this type of self righteous element in every drama, to the point that it have already shaped their Image and how people see them.. Even they have already believed themselves to be soo righteous in real life haha. 

Only playing at double speed can I get through all the slow motion speeches. It makes you sleepy hearing the same droning about doing the right thing punctuated with weirdly timed comedy that doesn't suit the cast members except for Ying Lei and the latter part for Bai Jiu. All that screaming in the beginning was so  painful to watch. They look so self conscious and uncomfortable! 

I'm afraid the betrayal trope is common, especially when the point is for the "greater good" over personal friendship and close acquaintance. At the last 2 episodes, you sense you know what will happen to an already thin plotline that has no surprises or mystery. You're just waiting for when ML is going to die. Even that part was so dragged out, I kept looking at my watch to see how many more minutes left. This is not a good thing when you keep having to check when the episodes are going to end. 

 Nepeta 22:

Only playing at double speed can I get through all the slow motion speeches. It makes you sleepy hearing the same droning about doing the right thing punctuated with weirdly timed comedy that doesn't suit the cast members except for Ying Lei and the latter part for Bai Jiu. All that screaming in the beginning was so  painful to watch. They look so self conscious and uncomfortable! 

I'm afraid the betrayal trope is common, especially when the point is for the "greater good" over personal friendship and close acquaintance. At the last 2 episodes, you sense you know what will happen to an already thin plotline that has no surprises or mystery. You're just waiting for when ML is going to die. Even that part was so dragged out, I kept looking at my watch to see how many more minutes left. This is not a good thing when you keep having to check when the episodes are going to end. 

Hahaha! Lest I forget the slow motion speeches and cringe-comedy, I'm so allergic to those scenes.. It makes me cringe and guess what.... I don't bother watching in 2x double speed, but skip those ridiculous scenes at the speed-of-light Lmao... I can even skip half episodes because of that

 Aaammmyyy:

I disagree it's not for all people that the ml is the best, for example ying lei and Bai jiu was my no 1 character, are u going to bash pple that  like diff characters?

LOL... did i mentioned other character here or even bashed  other people who like other character other than ML  ??? Learn to read the situation and why people made the comment before jumping like frog and made ur accusation and mislead my comment.. people are free to like whtver character they want... BUT.. there huge diffrence between liking character.. dislike character with getting personal with an actor.. and thts wht this user jenny being tried to do  constntly

 Nepeta 22:

Aaammmyy, no point reasoning with Mellowrose and their ilk. They are doing a very good job of creating hate towards their own fandom. How ironic. Soon as they mention TJR, your eyes will roll. The juvenile opinions start, and they are just using their poor star to artificially inflate their own egos. You sometimes feel for the star himself. They tarnish him and there's nothing he can do with these over-eager fans acting like his mum, who see no wrong with their son.

I liked Ying Lei & Bai Jiu's performances the most too, and director made a bad decision by not making enough scenes between them and ML because I felt so sad that they sacrificed themselves for the elite demon who doesn't even acknowledge them in an even way.

Lol... ur prejudice getting loud here.. strt from pretending to be neutral and unbiased and rightful.  & suddenly u said we who just FOF lover who LOVE ALL CHARACTER  was just the ML fans.. now create lies that we just overeager fans who sees no wrong? ... LMAO ..u and ur OVERBEARING   behaviour  likewise there is no point reasoning with self centred people like u who think ONLY UR OPINION IS RIGHT and other who didnt think like you is wrong and  CANT ACCEPT OTHER OPPINION lol..