Wanted to give this drama a shot watching more eps, but the fl really doesnât fit the role. I like the ml tho, never seen him before but heâs a good actor.
A lot of people are fixated on that fact. But hey go get that lead role ! it no doubt a competitive job good on…
Thatâs called an answer. Cherry-picking is when you focus on a single word and waste time on it, like you just did. Now go bother someone else with your obsession over that child actress.
A lot of people are fixated on that fact. But hey go get that lead role ! it no doubt a competitive job good on…
I donât know or care about her past, present, or future. My response was to your âjust be happy for her coz sheâs the main,â which implies that, regardless of her performance, it should be fine just coz she got the role. Thatâs something I really canât do. Now stop cherry picking you seem obsessed with her.
So why was a 16yo girl cast in the sequel to play a character who was portrayed by a 30yo woman in the prev one? Was the original story actually about a teenager, making this casting more accurate? Because if not, for an experienced warrior it would have been more believable someone a bit older.
lol Had to share this. Someone made a FoF vs VoS teams. Let me know who you guys think will win. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17BSJiD33C/?mibextid=wwXIfrWenXiao…
Fof team doesn't even need to play in full. Zyz one word spell and Wx flute to control and subdue all the demons will do lol
Why does this have so much comments? Were people fighting here?
90% of comments were just few users challenging themself to reach a big number. I remember that to find some info on the drama i had to load 4-5 page of emoty and inner joke. Just to fill the number
OOC? Why blame Lu Jiang for bravely fighting for what he wants?I don't think Lu Jianglai's character collapsed…
You treat Lu Jianglaiâs longing for a family as if it automatically legitimizes everything he endures to get it. Even if LJL craves familial stability, that does not mean he should be disrespected, emotionally dismissed or coerced into choices under threat of abandonment.
I do appreciate the way you explain LJLâs trauma, even if I find it reductive to reduce such a character, whose core has always been authority, justice, and righteousness, to simply a family man with trauma. Since your comment focuses on this side of him, I will concentrate on it too, even though it is neither all of him nor the main part of him.
Concerning this side, however, you turn his suppose trauma-driven compliance into heroic agency. When someone is starved for love, and another person becomes the only source of that love, the dynamic is no longer neutral. Especially when she withholds support when heâs vulnerable, she offers intimacy while planning to leave, she allows no middle ground and she uses departure as leverage. Thatâs not him âfreely choosing what he desiresâ, thatâs him choosing under constraint. True free will requires viable alternatives. He didnât have them.
Then you say: âHis attempts to provoke her with fights, desperate pleas, and playing the victim were completely accepted by her.â Accepted how? By refusing to meet him halfway, by withholding attention or support, or by refusing engagement? Passive tolerance is not an affectionate or validating response. What you describe as âexceptional affectionâ is a dynamic in which his insecurity escalates, her control increases. It reinforces the power imbalance. Calling this âhealingâ or âexceptional affectionâ dangerously reframes an abusive pattern.
The worst, however, is calling coercion âfree will.â You insist the drama is about the exercise of individual free will under external pressure, but emotional blackmail, manipulation, and coercion negate free will. Saying âhe chose what he subjectively desiredâ ignores that his desire was being exploited. When someone uses anotherâs weakness to extract compliance, the resulting choice is not free but itâs conditioned.
Ironically, this romantic defense actually demeans LJL. It reduces a brilliant, strategic, principled man into someone whose growth is measured by how much abuse he tolerates to get love, and whose dignity is secondary to the fantasy of family. LJL deserved support without ultimatums, love without indifference, and a family built with him, not at his expense. Longing for family can motivate great sacrifices, but it should never require accepting cruelty, coercion, or disrespect. Love that only exists when one person keeps yielding is not love. Itâs not that I want to miss the romance,I just refuse to romanticize harm. Anyway, we can just agree to disagree.
Itâs very frustrating for many people because this drama was sold as a balanced story between two characters,…
Yes, we must agree to disagree. While the main story was initially presented as interconnected between the two leads, it gradually shifts into a one-sided narrative, with only brief glimpses of the male leadâs characterization. Even at the end, when his story finally comes to the forefront, it is relegated to the very last episodes of the drama. I also think that when such a heavy imbalance is undeniably based on gender, it becomes inherently sexist toward whichever gender is at a disadvantage. And no, this isnât the worst way a lead has been treated in their own drama, but itâs hardly a point of pride.
The lines were supposed to be LJL's lines according to the script. https://x.com/i/status/2011165689944687091
It was so obvious. I wouldnât be surprised if they changed a lot more, because many scenes feel unnatural. For example, in his mansion, LJL didnât notice he had been drugged, even after suspiciously looking at those braziers ten times, and it was still her to solve the case. Or the fact that his entire story was pushed into the last 1/7 of the drama, when it would have been better, and fairer, to start it halfway through, or at most 2/3 in.
Even the ending feels off. After watching the unfairness of both family, instead of starting a new life together and beginning anew, he leaves his family to join hers, who is just like his on reverse. Itâs not a good or fair way end the drama . I wouldnât be surprised if they changed it at the last minute just to make this the female last act of empowerment
I like the ml tho, never seen him before but heâs a good actor.
This show who is the real ass in here. Obsessive, vulgar fan are the wrost.
Was the original story actually about a teenager, making this casting more accurate? Because if not, for an experienced warrior it would have been more believable someone a bit older.
I do appreciate the way you explain LJLâs trauma, even if I find it reductive to reduce such a character, whose core has always been authority, justice, and righteousness, to simply a family man with trauma. Since your comment focuses on this side of him, I will concentrate on it too, even though it is neither all of him nor the main part of him.
Concerning this side, however, you turn his suppose trauma-driven compliance into heroic agency. When someone is starved for love, and another person becomes the only source of that love, the dynamic is no longer neutral. Especially when she withholds support when heâs vulnerable, she offers intimacy while planning to leave, she allows no middle ground and she uses departure as leverage.
Thatâs not him âfreely choosing what he desiresâ, thatâs him choosing under constraint. True free will requires viable alternatives. He didnât have them.
Then you say: âHis attempts to provoke her with fights, desperate pleas, and playing the victim were completely accepted by her.â
Accepted how? By refusing to meet him halfway, by withholding attention or support, or by refusing engagement? Passive tolerance is not an affectionate or validating response.
What you describe as âexceptional affectionâ is a dynamic in which his insecurity escalates, her control increases. It reinforces the power imbalance. Calling this âhealingâ or âexceptional affectionâ dangerously reframes an abusive pattern.
The worst, however, is calling coercion âfree will.â You insist the drama is about the exercise of individual free will under external pressure, but emotional blackmail, manipulation, and coercion negate free will.
Saying âhe chose what he subjectively desiredâ ignores that his desire was being exploited. When someone uses anotherâs weakness to extract compliance, the resulting choice is not free but itâs conditioned.
Ironically, this romantic defense actually demeans LJL. It reduces a brilliant, strategic, principled man into someone whose growth is measured by how much abuse he tolerates to get love, and whose dignity is secondary to the fantasy of family.
LJL deserved support without ultimatums, love without indifference, and a family built with him, not at his expense.
Longing for family can motivate great sacrifices, but it should never require accepting cruelty, coercion, or disrespect. Love that only exists when one person keeps yielding is not love.
Itâs not that I want to miss the romance,I just refuse to romanticize harm.
Anyway, we can just agree to disagree.
While the main story was initially presented as interconnected between the two leads, it gradually shifts into a one-sided narrative, with only brief glimpses of the male leadâs characterization. Even at the end, when his story finally comes to the forefront, it is relegated to the very last episodes of the drama.
I also think that when such a heavy imbalance is undeniably based on gender, it becomes inherently sexist toward whichever gender is at a disadvantage.
And no, this isnât the worst way a lead has been treated in their own drama, but itâs hardly a point of pride.
I wouldnât be surprised if they changed a lot more, because many scenes feel unnatural. For example, in his mansion, LJL didnât notice he had been drugged, even after suspiciously looking at those braziers ten times, and it was still her to solve the case.
Or the fact that his entire story was pushed into the last 1/7 of the drama, when it would have been better, and fairer, to start it halfway through, or at most 2/3 in.
Even the ending feels off. After watching the unfairness of both family, instead of starting a new life together and beginning anew, he leaves his family to join hers, who is just like his on reverse.
Itâs not a good or fair way end the drama . I wouldnât be surprised if they changed it at the last minute just to make this the female last act of empowerment