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Yeah, I sort of viewed it as if there were two groups. Nonmembers they killed and gave an orchid and those true believers who sacrificed themselves after receiving one. Thought maybe smelling one with its hallucinogenic effects put them enough at ease to carry out their task.

It seemed to be a symbol of the Jeongran Society which I viewed as a cult of sorts. They drank the koolaid and bought into the ideology if they were given one they needed to sacrifice themselves for the society.

Can someone tell me what Han Seon Young's motivation was to go after Tae Soo Mi so aggressively? Was it just that they're college/business rivals or did I miss something more personal? I never got a sense that Tae Soo Mi gave any thought to Han Seon Young.

I absolutely agree. The ice stone is in the palace... she has an in with the CP so why isn't she operating independently and looking for it? Figured that's what an assassin would do. Uk and MD could be working at it on 2 fronts while at least giving the appearance that they've distanced themselves from one another. Instead she sort of gave up and threw all her chips in with Uks training and him saving her.

I think a lot of people feel like Yul attached alot more meaning to the Naksu meets than she did. Based on the flashbacks she was just friendly and probably didn't give him much more thought after the fact. So now in the current timeline they feel like he's trying to impede MD and UKs happiness. Just my thoughts.

In an earlier episode he was a part of that soul shifters group during a ceremony in the hidden room so I figured they swapped him out long ago.

Yes, I'm excited to see where it goes. I will say that I'd find a redemption story more believable if there was some sort of recognition on the mothers part prior to their sit down. Just a little something that said she checked on WYWs welfare at a distance from time to time.

I'm on the fence with this one and think it could go either way. She seems redeemable this week but you would think she would have taken on some passive role in WYWs life and recognized her prior to meeting if that was the case.

Yes, it's going to be very interesting to see how it's handled now that she's been confronted with the reality. The regret in her eyes in this episode vs the cold refusal of WYWs existence in the earlier one.

That could be true. Hard to say what Joo Wans motive was for asking that they be given space. I just meant that Tae Gook thanked the doctor after the fact for following Joo Wans instructions. That's all that call was and he was impacted emotionally. Not a total monster at least.

No, he thanked the doctor for giving the family space. I had to rewatch it too because I thought the same thing.

What a tough episode. I had to go back and rewatch Choi Tae Gooks conversation with the doctor at the end. He was in tears but I was convinced he thanked the doctor for keeping everyone out of the room to avoid saving Jae Yi. Luckily I was wrong. Turns out he does in fact have a small sliver of heart.

In the next few eps I think the ML is about due to quit sulking and go after what he wants. It may get back to what you're hoping.

Agreed. The ML FL dynamic helped me overlook that for a while but now that they're on hold it feels like the story we're left to fall back on is lacking.

Yes, it feels like we were love bombed by Seul Bi for 7-8 eps and now that it's stopped we're unsure of what anyone's ultimate motivations are besides Soo Kwang. There are glimpses of good when Seul Bi and Soo Kwang are alone together but outside of that a darkness is becoming more pronounced.