Absolutely love the mature writing of how they made Zhuang xu take his one last push at Xi guang only after knowing she doesn't have a BF from chris (ofc from his perspective).... They usually make these SMLs suddenly toxic and stuff to the point of harassing the girl non stop etc & somehow the ML has to intervene for the 'damsel in distress'. I was so praying for the ML to not show up when FL & SML were having that talk near the taxi.... thank heavens for not having that age old cliche here. So I felt this was so nice to see the FL do it herself the proper closure for both of them. The writing overall has been very mature throughout except for whatever reason they made the ML a bit of mess initially with some stupid revenge mode just coz the girl he was supposed to see for a friggin blind date didn't visit him in the hospital coz he got injured ? I mean ethically the girl should have visited him, yes but bruh, she owes you nothing just coz she agreed for a blind date & dipped. So makes no sense for you to be hung up on her for some damn revenge... lol.. It was so weak but thankfully only lasted few episodes.. Otherwise 10/10 from me just for the mature storytelling even if there are about 6 episodes to go...
But this show is actually good - people are just into crazy violent stuff these days.
Yeah, same here. I am more a person who supports artists based on their genuine acting skills than popularity. So my comment was out of longing concern for an under-appreciated artist like SHB who should have had her breakthrough after Reborn Rich but her last two shows has only gone on to a way lesser traffic.
Getting lead roles won’t be an issue for her for time being as she is still the bigger artist for her agency. The problem though are the projects that will stamp her position as sought after FL which is where the agency are falling behind with zero strategic choices. Ofc they won’t be forcing her to do something cut throat way & it’s probably her call with the scripts etc but the agency also arent that capable to pull strings for her which makes me lean towards the possibility that maybe she doesn’t have that many choices & can’t wait forever … you know? That’s my whole issue with them. Anyway finger’s crossed & like you said, we can only root from afar anyway. End of the day that’s all we can do :)
But this show is actually good - people are just into crazy violent stuff these days.
I don’t comment in MDL usually & only use it for checking shows but was keeping tabs under the comments here as I am an avid follower of the actress since her early days & found this thread rather interesting.
I would beg to differ from your pov with some additional perspectives here reg how OP’s pov to worry about SHB’s career trajectory is valid. I understand he/she just deemed it a failure with 1 episode but let’s look at the context, the show is on channel A. It’s a small cable channel known to have less ratings, less traffic & is no way beneficial for the actors. Only extremely few rare shows made it out of that channel with decent ratings. So, from OP’s pov, this show indeed will not be beneficial for SHB irrespective of how positive the smaller audience meant for channel A might receive it when the show ends.
In addition, SHB’s last show didn’t have good ratings as well despite starring with a popular star. Reborn rich, again had A listers & 30% ratings, yet it became a major career dent for her as she was subject to much criticism not necessarily for her acting but a whole lot of other factors korea is known for (I won’t get into the details now but as someone who followed the issue closely when it happened I can vouch that it had nothing to do with her acting alone). Just starring in a show with popular stars alone doesn’t mean her career is on an ascending trajectory esp. in a patriarchal society like Korea. You are gravely mistaken if you think so.
So it is a very valid concern from OP imo. It’s something I have been feeling since the Reborn rich ended & firmly believe her agency isn’t doing enough to recover her career path. A good agency that really had means would have foreseen this loss-loss situation for her & avoided this after starring in a massive hit like reborn rich . They failed to capitalize her starring in a hit show or prevented her from getting slandered unfairly & unethically. That’s a huge failure from her agency which I am still very disappointed about
But her agency isn’t a very popular one & doesnt have any bigger stars than her afaik. Which is why I myself am waiting for the day she will move out for better prospects.
So i would respectfully disagree with everything you said as well reg SHB :)
Just wanna ask u this : where do u see ppl being offended due to the drama? It was just one thread yesterday!!!…
Ok, Since you were polite, I will try to be rational and respond out of good faith. I have seen the thread link you gave, Yes, If someone threw a racist jibe at you, it's detestable. I have no issue with you defending yourself. My comment has nothing to do with any of that. It's clearly for people who are trying to whitewash some of the obvious flaws we have esp. on a very sensitive topic like casteism. I hope it's clear!
Just wanna ask u this : where do u see ppl being offended due to the drama? It was just one thread yesterday!!!…
I refuse to engage with people posting insipid, vacous comments like yours as I feel it's a thorough waste of time. Btw nice coping mechanism to make yourself feel better by posting that many emojis.
I really wanted to keep mum as it was irrelevant for MDL or this show but some of these borderline embarrassing hypernationalistic BS from my fellow country counterparts the moment we see a factual representation of our country's flaws really forced me to write this. I really cannot understand what triggers this hyper nationalism in you guys to defend anything negative as if your lives depend on it. Having lived all my life here, I didn't find anything remotely wrong with what was shown. Try to be rational instead of going rabid on nationalistic defense as soon as you see some kind of disparagement.
As Tyrion Lannister would say: "Once you have accepted your flaws, no one can use it against you".
Caste system is still very rampant especially in villages. Those who deny this have been living in their comfort bubble. We ourselves literally make gazillion movies about caste based killings & crimes. Even today you can read about honor killings in villages, letting a particular community people to do Manual scanvenging & the list goes on. Someone was even suggesting how we are not racist. I was like wtf? Do these guys even live in the country to yap some random bile like that? We are inherently very racist in nature. Even today people from other states have an aversion and often make sly remarks at folks from South state like TN which has predominantly dark skinned people. Can you tell me how many dark skinned actresses have made it big here in our entertainment industry? Why do you have to lie through your teeth like that as if we are saints? 🤦♂️
I am not even making any of this up. It's literally our history- past & present. You can be patriotic & still acknowledge the country's flaws.
But you all got triggered by a few min scene that merely shed a light about this existing loathsome system in practice since forever? I don't understand what are you guys trying to prove by vehemently denying any of this. Do you think you will be given a medal for defending your country in a bloody online forum? 🤦♂️
Either be rational with your thoughts on sensitive topics without getting blinded by hyper nationalism or atleast do the bare minimum to zip it to not make those of us who are actually sensible enough to look bad amongst other communities. It only takes a few rotten apples to spoil the barrel just like some of these crude, superficial, ire-filled balderdash in this page from my fellow counterparts is one of the main reasons contributing to some of those stereotypes & generalizations of us in other countries . Right now you are all ruining our country's image in the name of defense more than whatever that few minute scene did without even realizing that yourselves.
SO, PLEASE STOP EMBARASSING THE REST OF US in this forum!! JUST STOP! All of this is completely irrelevant to this comment section including whatever I typed here. period.
When writing was strong in bp anyways?Bp this bp that. Stop with that medicore romcom. Yknow you can criticize…
Urm. Last time I checked there were no rules to criticize a drama. Where is this coming from? I can see the OP just compared two similar themed dramas and how one doesn't suit his/her taste. You are being weird all combative lol
Lol, I can understand your frustration that people don't give a shit about that borefest 'may I help you' for…
He/she wasn't completely wrong with the insinuation though, was he? The person just called you out for your condescending tone shading the people that liked a particular drama. I think it is wrong. You could have simply said you didn't like it and no one would have bothered right? What's with looking down on something/someone attitude?
'Gosh, imagine people like different things.' - I think you should ask yourself about this.
Getting lead roles won’t be an issue for her for time being as she is still the bigger artist for her agency. The problem though are the projects that will stamp her position as sought after FL which is where the agency are falling behind with zero strategic choices. Ofc they won’t be forcing her to do something cut throat way & it’s probably her call with the scripts etc but the agency also arent that capable to pull strings for her which makes me lean towards the possibility that maybe she doesn’t have that many choices & can’t wait forever … you know? That’s my whole issue with them. Anyway finger’s crossed & like you said, we can only root from afar anyway. End of the day that’s all we can do :)
I would beg to differ from your pov with some additional perspectives here reg how OP’s pov to worry about SHB’s career trajectory is valid. I understand he/she just deemed it a failure with 1 episode but let’s look at the context, the show is on channel A. It’s a small cable channel known to have less ratings, less traffic & is no way beneficial for the actors. Only extremely few rare shows made it out of that channel with decent ratings. So, from OP’s pov, this show indeed will not be beneficial for SHB irrespective of how positive the smaller audience meant for channel A might receive it when the show ends.
In addition, SHB’s last show didn’t have good ratings as well despite starring with a popular star. Reborn rich, again had A listers & 30% ratings, yet it became a major career dent for her as she was subject to much criticism not necessarily for her acting but a whole lot of other factors korea is known for (I won’t get into the details now but as someone who followed the issue closely when it happened I can vouch that it had nothing to do with her acting alone). Just starring in a show with popular stars alone doesn’t mean her career is on an ascending trajectory esp. in a patriarchal society like Korea. You are gravely mistaken if you think so.
So it is a very valid concern from OP imo. It’s something I have been feeling since the Reborn rich ended & firmly believe her agency isn’t doing enough to recover her career path. A good agency that really had means would have foreseen this loss-loss situation for her & avoided this after starring in a massive hit like reborn rich . They failed to capitalize her starring in a hit show or prevented her from getting slandered unfairly & unethically. That’s a huge failure from her agency which I am still very disappointed about
But her agency isn’t a very popular one & doesnt have any bigger stars than her afaik. Which is why I myself am waiting for the day she will move out for better prospects.
So i would respectfully disagree with everything you said as well reg SHB :)
As Tyrion Lannister would say: "Once you have accepted your flaws, no one can use it against you".
Caste system is still very rampant especially in villages. Those who deny this have been living in their comfort bubble. We ourselves literally make gazillion movies about caste based killings & crimes. Even today you can read about honor killings in villages, letting a particular community people to do Manual scanvenging & the list goes on. Someone was even suggesting how we are not racist. I was like wtf? Do these guys even live in the country to yap some random bile like that? We are inherently very racist in nature. Even today people from other states have an aversion and often make sly remarks at folks from South state like TN which has predominantly dark skinned people. Can you tell me how many dark skinned actresses have made it big here in our entertainment industry? Why do you have to lie through your teeth like that as if we are saints? 🤦♂️
I am not even making any of this up. It's literally our history- past & present. You can be patriotic & still acknowledge the country's flaws.
But you all got triggered by a few min scene that merely shed a light about this existing loathsome system in practice since forever? I don't understand what are you guys trying to prove by vehemently denying any of this. Do you think you will be given a medal for defending your country in a bloody online forum? 🤦♂️
Either be rational with your thoughts on sensitive topics without getting blinded by hyper nationalism or atleast do the bare minimum to zip it to not make those of us who are actually sensible enough to look bad amongst other communities. It only takes a few rotten apples to spoil the barrel just like some of these crude, superficial, ire-filled balderdash in this page from my fellow counterparts is one of the main reasons contributing to some of those stereotypes & generalizations of us in other countries . Right now you are all ruining our country's image in the name of defense more than whatever that few minute scene did without even realizing that yourselves.
SO, PLEASE STOP EMBARASSING THE REST OF US in this forum!! JUST STOP! All of this is completely irrelevant to this comment section including whatever I typed here. period.
'Gosh, imagine people like different things.' - I think you should ask yourself about this.