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A real korean gay movie...

Sometimes even the sad movies are great... In a country where homophobia was rampant, when Hong Seok-Cheon outed himself in the year before in an interview and lost his career, and where even teachers spread misinformation because of it. The homophobia is still a problem. Korea also has the highest suicide rates of western countries and especially the highest rates considering gay people.

So I was quite surprised it ended not like that. It ended in a confession which was not dicovered at that time and resulted in an 404 web error, you can say it was a bittersweet ending. This movie depicts exactly how the zeitgeist was in 2001 and why the MLs did not find together. It's done without creating unnecessary drama, it feels very realistic. It also shows internalized homophobia, which means gay people hate themselves and hate to be gay for all the wrong reasons. Social pressure in South Korea is no joke.

The movie is done very well, the production quality is not as polished as it could be but to get a gay movie financed in South Korea is more difficult than anything. While this is again a movie does not have a happy end for the MLs, it still features a happy end. It just shows how it was and how it partly still is and that is the real sad thing.

I don't want to spoil more, you really should watch this. If your sensible be warned that bullying is one of the themes too. It's not a movie where you eat snacks, it's a movie where the tissue box should be near you.

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Douglas Adams rotates in his grave....

The answer of this "BL" is not 42. For me it's a very generous 3 :)

First, the over-acting and the "cat" actors are neither cute nor good. It's just hardcore cringe. How someone can give this a 10 is beyond me... It has no substance, no develeopment AND most importantly there is no real romance involved. It's a Bromance and the real thing the main character loves is the food. The production itself is ok, but it's very low budget even for Thai standards. The best of this series are the BTS in the credits.

If I had not a migraine yesterday it can get you one... Overall, if you like BLs avoid it, it's not worth your time.

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oh sooooo boring....

While not really a bad show, man was it boring.
The writing was predictable, there were no real challenges and if you do food, why is the "super monster chef" just the jury verdicts?

At least one fresh face with Aungpao who did a good job but most were acting like highschool kids and not like grown up humans. I am also not a fan of the weird sounds used in Thai romcons, but at least they did not overdo it.

The kissing scenes with OffGun looked strange for me. I mean they kissed really well in other shows but here it feels shallow without the feeling of love or desire.

This show is a good downer if you have seen something like "Not Me", to calm you down and turn your brain off, because the story does nothing to challenge it.

The finale was an all around happy end, all the parents are soooo nice and so understanding especially Fire's mother. Of course grandma was always cool and always supportive but for the rest I would have wished a more rocky ending or more episodes to see them come to terms and less of the earlier meaningless stuff.

All in all this show was a disappointment.

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Very low budget, AI & bad dubbing...

This could have been one of the best CBLs ever, but they botched it. While AI plays a big role in China, it also plays a role in this show. It's not that bad, at least we have real people doing a real series. The biggest complaint is the dubbing, which is really bad and even worse is the singing-dubbing which often has nothing to do with the song you hear. The songs itself are all excellent.

It begins like an ordinary BL but that is only half the story. What seems 08/15 is something completely different. The title and the main characters blue lips will make sense further through the story. This is one of the series which will get better with every episode and you will gradually understand what's going on.

I really wish chinese productions would not dub at all. First they are produced for the international market anyways and not shown officially in China and second I will not recognize any chinese dialect anyways. At least I can hear differences between cantonese and mandarin :) The show grew on me the further it went and it's for sure not a bad watch, when you can ignore some of the AI and the dubbing. For a low budget production, they did a good job.

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The biggest disappointment in BL history....

While this show was not only overhyped and we all expected greatness, the script of this show was worse than I could ever have imagined. As usual this series started strong in the first two episodes to declined at a steady pace *till episode 12, where the jumped of the cliff and landed on the belly.

Everyone reading the novel can agree, that the novel did not need to be spiced up with the SM part for example. If the book is already good, you should not change it into something it never was. The pacing is all over the place and the side couples are mostly just extras where their stories are wasted and not explored in depth. But we see scene after scene of the ML which did nothing for the story.

Episode 12 culminates in the trash script this was, with one cliché after the next. Nobody can fault the actors who all did a very good job with what there were given. And of course costumes, most of the staging and cinematography was impeccable, The music with an real orchestra was great - if they had used it everywhere and not used some music from a library which again was completely unnecessary. The few minutes in every episode could have been handled by the composer as well. Of course I could nitpick about the "english" natives and the "London underground station" and so on. And don't forget all the ads slapped directly into our faces. And don't forget the miraculous healing power of Chakri, who was serving again after being shot (which was not a stray shot in the arm or so).

All in all, this was overhyped and did not deliver. Aof said, he did the best he could. If that's the best, I don't see a future for Domundi. But of course the fangirls will overrate this show again, will not understand how weak that story was and that the drama was forced. And they will write glowing reviews (hello CRPH & thanks for blocking) not having a shroud of integrity to write about the flaws this show has. Normally this show would rate even lower, but I can't deny the acting performance (oh daddy Ramil you were the perfect asshole through out the series), the cinematography, costums and most of the staging and most of the music. But the script was trash. As I have written all of that - the conclusion is: This show is a waste of your time.

Oh, I forgot: The cut version should not exist, because they even cut STORY elements. Which makes no sense at all, especially in the first episode.

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Just a nice end for Tonfah & Typhoon...

Mr. hospital owner Tonfah & mr. photographer Typhoon have a nice time at home & work when Typhoons aunt (his dads ex) needs a medical procedure to determine if she has cancer or not. So both of them are babysitting aunts daugther and of course it's a bliss because while already older she behaves impeccable.

So everything is mostly fluffy between them, they didn't do any nc-scenes, so not fanservice at all, which I appreciate. We also see an other side of Tonfah and due to the time-jump we also see a much mature Typhoon. Production quality was of course top notch and this is a nice end for their story arc. Of course it's not as deep as I wished it to be but on the other hand I can't complain too much.

When you have seen their series, there is no reason to skip this. All ends well.

Note: Why does this page exist twice? https://kisskh.at/803506-fourever-you-part-2-special-ep-beside-the-sky
Does nobody check it? I don't get it, besides mixing the titles... Ah they mean a BTS aka episode 0 is a "special"... it's too confusing...

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too short to tell a believable story...

After "Winter Fever" I did expect more from Trufilm. The "kid" is quite abnoxious and of course with an age of 20 nobody is really an adult. But 4x8 minutes can't tell a believable story, because it happens too fast...

What I did not understand is, does the kid study on the same university as he teaches? If he does there can't be a relationsship whatsoever. So we have to assume he does not. The kissing also felt akward for me... I also didn't feel any chemistry between them.

It's ok to watch around 30 mintues but it's not even medicore, it's too plain, too unbelievable and not well acted out. While I would like to support small production companies for sure, they need to step up with the quality of their script and deliver something outstanding and not the same old, same old. At least I expected something better from them. For me it's one of their weakest shows ever.

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A show nobody needed....

With WeTV nowadays you have a chance to get a gem or in this case step into a big pile of crap.

I have no idea what the writers/director/producer smoked to put a) so many clichés b) so many couples c) rape into such a short story. Especially c) is repulsive because it does not have any consequences and the character who got raped acts like as nothing ever happend. WTF?

It's a waste to write anything more about this pile of crap. I'm really sorry for the actors who had to act out this shit. But at least it did not drag for twelve episodes 🤣. The money could have been used for other things!

Verdict: Avoid it like the pest, it matched the absolute low like "Flirt Milk", both shows are equally terrible.

Edit; Meanwhile the actors are suing the production company for not paying them the agreed sum which is paltry in comparision to other productions. So now we know where the money went... not into this productions, not to the actors.

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When idols don't act out their roles...

A typical idol BL where kissing is forbidden, because the actors can't commit to their roles. Again: If you do BLs do it the whole way and not half assed. The story is also quite mid, not bad, not good but the chemistry & acting was better than I expected,

There is not much else to say. It's an ok production, it did not have a lot of budget and it serves for the most part as boost for the idols, because BL is an easy way. But compared to real actors it's quite shocking that in 2026 they still zoom on the lips, but there is no kissing at all. I would have been more content with it, when they did not zoom on lips or hid it completely as other show already did. They did not even manage a peck on the lips. Very disappointing.

At least we don't have cringe comedy but the script was nothing to write home about. If you have time you may watch it, it's not the worst, but if your time is limited, you can skip it and not miss anything.

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Ended in a cliffhanger...

The elefant in the room with this series is the lip-syncing of the whole audio. For me it always felt out of place. They could not transfer all the emotions of a scene in a believable manner. Unexpectable the kissing was not good either.

The finale was a bit of a bummer. We get a cliffhanger for a 2nd season and I always hate it, when they do that. Chances are good with all the support this series gained it will happen. But to wait for a year for the continuation of this story suxx.

Besides the couples and the girl, I also think the acting was lacking. They choose to implement silly moments in such a dark story and I'm not a fan of it. Production quality was top notch, besides the lip-syncing.

We get a story between a "soft" gangster boss and a "innocent" student who is the pride not only of his family but of the whole neighbourhood. It's quite clear from the beginning that the student is drawn to the gangster and it's typical BL cliché that the gangster boss has to struggle to accept his own feelings. So nothing new there and nothing which does justify all the hype about this series..

Overall it was good entertainment but for me it was not stellar. And to have to wait for another year for the conclusion (or again 9 episodes with a cliffhanger) pisses me off.

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When the credits are longer than the story...

This is an odd one. The story could have been very interesting, but the execution was soooooooo bad. Even the murder of the uncle was comical using a butter knife... which does not even have a pointy end... As always I'm not a fan of the dubbing especially because it felt off. They had a big house, expensive car, but could not invest the money and time to tell the story more comprehensible.

And why did the credits run longer than the episodes? To split it in five epsiodes was a waste of time, especially if you have to wait for the next episode for a week. So, the execution lacked a bunch, the story should be much much longer, even a short movie of around 45minutes would have been better than this.

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Stunning pictures, not thought out story...

"The Secret of Us" is a japanese youtube channel, but only doing chinese BL content. That is one their several short series but a very weak one. While the landscapes are really stunning, the story left so much to be desired. It begins fine - a hurt stranger is found by an to be aspiring veterian - but how they fell in love is not really explained. There is a red flag scene in a tent and then it's like they are together.

In the following episodes it's revealed the stranger had his goal to reach the veterian because his dog saved him from a wolf pack. But when you listen to the story, it does not make much sense, because he mentioned there were other people saving him, so they would have rendered first aid, right? And just because he did not tell him first, they break up and the stranger returns home.

The finale is the most confusing. First it's a time jump and second he wants to search for the stranger but gets a call that mr. stranger should have an operation otherwise his life is in danger and then he appears on a horse. WTF?

This is one of the weakest series from them and I have no clue why they thought the story made any sense. They had six episodes to tell a story, but most of it was filler and not needed and it ends. While it's nice he's back, will he die now? Or what was the reason for him coming back? I can't figure it out and I don't care. The actors tried their best, they delivered a decent performance but I did not feel their attraction to each other. The only good thing about this series are the stunning landscapes which is special because most dramas play out in a big city most of the time. Also the rest of the production quality was top notch wasted on such a script. Handsome actors don't make a story. So my quite high rating is only because of the production quality, because the script is really bad.

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Strong beginning, flat over most the time and ridicilous story...

First let me say, I liked the second season more than the first season, even if the story did sometimes not make sense. Most of the actors improved a lot and especially the newcomer "Milk" was really great in his role.

The story arc of "Alan" was a bit of a WTF moment. And the biggest minus was the pacing. There was a lot of lost time with incosequential story but not enough focus on the other couples. NorthSonic should have started much much earlier and KimKenta should have much more dialogue and not just some kisses in the finale.

So was it bad? Not really. I don't really like the script, but I like most of the acting. While "Pooh" is a nice "boy", he will never be a great actor as sofar I see it. The rest of the cast were good or even very good. Alan felt not like Alan because of his story. Don't know what the script-writers thought, but it does not work for me. The races were as lame as in the first season - I have more fun watching Formula 1. But of course the finale left some things to be desired. It was all rushed in the last two episodes and before it was partly boring and the characters "run in circles" and nothing really happenend. While Charlie is nearly dead he wakes up some time later, but we don't know when, because they cut that out completely. It's one year later and because he drives he remembers every thing... OMG, what a cliché and a point of lazy writing! And they get paid for this!

I'm not a fan of the Omegaverse and to call themselves Mama and Papa still feels cringe - and why did Mama not get pregnant, they could do that too!. The script was the mess I expected it to be (because I never had much hope for that), but overall it was an ok series compared to every other crap series Thailand produced in the last two years. So it's not good, it's above average because of the acting and the cinematography, but it's not bad either even when the script is the worst part of this show.

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sensible, symbolism and real kisses ?

This was not on my radar, but good friends recommanded this series to me.

RANT: The worst part first: The subtitles. Who the fuck thought of this font and that they need to put pastel colored text on a pastel colored backgrond in the beginning of every episode? It's unreadable. Second the normal subtitles were a joke as well, it's 7pts and anyone, even with perfect eye-sight will have trouble to read such text if the person has a reasonable distance to the monitor/TV set. I needed to watch 50cm away from my 30" monitor which is annoying as hell! You can add normal subtitles on youtube easily and it would not have mattered. To hard encode subtitles is a crime as well. END OF RANT

Yeah, sorry I had to write the "real kisses" in the headline 🤣 This is a chinese production and I was expecting the censor-hammer coming down on them. In this case it didn't, which makes this a stand-out in itself. The good thing besides that, we get an actual story, with actual emotions. More or less a coming of age story but not from the gay lead but his soon to be boyfriend (soon means it's only 7 epsiodes 12-21 minutes long).

The cinematography was stunning, the symbolism worth noting and overall the actors did an excellent job. I won't spoil the story further, but it's sometimes painful (emotionally) to watch. Overall I can also only recommand to watch this, because it's an nice uplift compared to the crap thai companies are forcing on us (except two shows when I'm writing this review). I hope the extra episodes will be as good as this was.

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a rushed finale... at least one episode too short

First of all, that is not your 08/15 BL, if it's a BL at all. The romance is not the focus of the story at all, it happens on the side. We have the prosecutor who is quite the psychopath, but in the end figuring out that he is human after all. And then we have an investigator who was elevated by the prosecutor because he his the son of the suspected murderer of this dad.

This is a proper criminial case, not like "Dare You to Death" where the culprit was clear after epsisode 3, more sophisticated and much more intense. And this case makes sense. Of course we see one of the culprits in episode 1 but it was over in a flash, so it is hard to remember it at all. One negative of that is the first forced kiss, but in the context of the story I got the feeling that the investigator had eyes on him from the beginning.

The only de-rating for me was the finale. First our lovely investigator has a backstory as a police officer, but he was not able to self defend himself properly neither against the culprit nor against the culprits son which was strange. The whole reveal of the culprits son feeled very rushed and that the son turned into a maniac was also a bit off putting imho. While I don't care about the use of AI/CGI in the intro, it was a big negative in the finale on the beach. Yes it costs money to film that properly but to film it at a green screen and put the beach in, was a lazy approach, besides being kitschy as hell because they made the colors quite unnatural, the scene does not fit the vibe of the show. Also negative for the korean viewers is the fact, that Wavve cut the NC-scenes a lot. WTF is wrong with them? They put a gay dating show and now a bi dating show on air, but are too afraid to put the whole NC-scene on the air? That's really stupid.

Our MLs were stellar imho. They did a superb job into bringing their characters to life. Production quality was quite high and there is really nothing to complain about except what I already wrote. The OST was also very nice. But because of the things I pointed out, it's not a masterpiece. It would have taken a bit more time, a bit more depth, To have extended all episodes to at least 30 minutes would have been a good idea but due to the huge cast and extras I guess they run into budget issues, so they had to limit runtime which was not a good decision for the series as a whole. At least I can say, Korea can bring good queer content on the screen and not all of them are only 8 minutes per episode. If you have not watched it, you can without fears of wasting your time.

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