think the same. The writing quality dropped with the dam explosion subplot, as the screenwriters forced her Lin'an…
Yes, I agree, it's still a very watchable/recommendable drama with great direction, overall aesthetics and actors' performances, pity the plot overextended certain parts, rushed or left loopholes in others, loosing its initial balance.
think the same. The writing quality dropped with the dam explosion subplot, as the screenwriters forced her Lin'an…
I still think the main problem is the writing. MDL often doesn't list all the writers, because there are also well written scenes, even among those not present in the original novel. There were many unnecessary push and pulls between side couples (lets remember the novel princess never practised as doctor in a military camp, the drama Qian Qian escaped many more times from the freak etc). Those scenes took a lot of time and transformed PoJ in an idol drama, with "more of the same" kind of story. Drama cut off certain less important scenes from the novel (and that's ok), but it also left out its important focus on political and military strategy (eg. XZ's planning of the battles) and the underlying power conflict which were the only relatively original aspect of the entire story.
First and foremost, I really like this drama. I think ZLH and TXW knocked it out of the park. For me personally,…
think the same. The writing quality dropped with the dam explosion subplot, as the screenwriters forced her Lin'an pig squad and tutor Tao in it, changing the track in a way that didn't make sense. The direction however remained great all along, it's a feast for the eyes. If you watch the trailers, a scene in the bath is so well shot, the leads wear white and black and their push and pull in circle forms a spectacular yin and yang symbol with their wet clothes☯️I can only imagine how much effort they've put to shoot that scene
The flows actually started prior to the battle, already in ep. 29 (or maybe even earlier), the drama didn't make…
You are welcome, I only wanted to confirm you've detected very well the flaws. Ofc., neither do I would ask myself how the princess knew so much about the medicine, if the scriptwriters asked the audience for the suspension of disbelief just on that: there were several scenes in the novel requiring our suspension of disbelief, too, but the storyline was consistent, with clear cause-effect relations and movements of all characters. Although it contained a lot of stereotypes as well, its main value (and originality) was in HZ's strategic reasoning before the battles (and generally on politics and power conflicts), which is almost completely absent in the drama.
Idk, after adding the pig squad, the princess's medical practice, 2-3 side couples' push&pulls etc, I feel as the drama scriptwriters have messed with the main plot and on who was where and how he/she got there having no time or intentionally avoiding to put some light on the backstory of the track they've changed. Someone said here the production changed the scriptwriter(s) midway... Idk, but the drama storytelling was ok until the dam blowing up - that was the first big loophole. In order to give more importance to her squad and tutor Tao in that sloppily written scene, the scriptwriters resorted to an insane idea of "let them pick the lots" to divide people who would be sacrificed with the dam in the explosion from those who can return home. And it was tutor Tao - a captive and a corvée till that moment - who decided on it, not the Commander in Chief and a person who had the idea of flooding the enemy's army, ie. XZ.
I find the writing and directing for ep 30 to be weak. Some scenes were just too questionable. The battle was…
The flows actually started prior to the battle, already in ep. 29 (or maybe even earlier), the drama didn't make clear why it was Marquis Wu'an to rescue Bao'er from the shadow guards sent by Qi Min after his son in order to kill him. In the novel, beside the fact Sui Yuanqing remained Xie Zheng's captive all the time, XZ was "in the right place in the right moment" to save the kid only bc. he was besieging the capital of the rebelled province (and also found Zhao Xun separately from Bao'er), while in the drama it looks like he is constantly somewhere near Lucheng (defended by the old general He) as if he was awaiting THERE the rebel lord to attack and casually found out the fleeing boy with Mr. Zhao. It isn't only unconvincing but it cut out the reason why general He was killed: the rebel lord attacked the city with all his forces, leaving his capital undefended. With the help of Li family (including Li Huaian), Qi Min escaped (after killing Sui YQ's mother and the rest of the family and leaving clues to frame Wei Yan's faction for the escape of the "Lord Changxin's elder son")
In order to give more screentime to certain side characters, the drama changed, left out or introduced certain subplots, eg. the princess acting as an "imperial doctor" or combining two characters, like Li Huaian, who embodies both LH from the novel and junior general Tang, general He's disciple (who was the one FCY knocked off in the novel, when he charged like crazy), but opened important loopholes (why would a princess know so much about the medicine? Why would Li tutor have send his grandson to be a disciple of a general from the Wei's faction?) failing to make these characters and the connected plot fully believable.
Ep. 6. I've truly never ever expected to see the old Yugoslav partisan movie "Walter defends Sarajevo" (transliterated in pinjin as "Waerte baowei Saralevo") and never knew the movie had such a huge impact on Chinese audience and filmmakers. "It was seen by upward of a billion people as it toured the land, playing to entire factories and villages in makeshift screenings. Fifty years after its debut, many in China can still recite entire scenes line for line." https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1010236 Amazing!
He is. There are 164 chapters in the novel, only 40 episodes here, they had to make adjustments regarding that.…
Yes, it's easy to mix because her involvement in the plot happened in later chapters. Polo match was also in those ordinary chapters, not in extra ones.
He is. There are 164 chapters in the novel, only 40 episodes here, they had to make adjustments regarding that.…
No, those scenes were in ordinary chapters. The princess was recalling her meetings with GSY. She appears seldom, but she was a key player in saving the ML when the emperor tried to frame him passing the message to Changyu in the palace. And it was thanks to her, the truth connected with the former emperor and Wei was revealed.
He is. There are 164 chapters in the novel, only 40 episodes here, they had to make adjustments regarding that.…
Gongsun's family suffered from their officialdom in the past and made the rule that no member of their family will enter the court. They are renowned scholars, but because of this rule, Gongsun thinks he cannot give any kind of marital/political support to the Princess.
He is. There are 164 chapters in the novel, only 40 episodes here, they had to make adjustments regarding that.…
In the novel, Gongsun is also a member of the academy, although it is his father (or grandfather) who is the headmaster, while he is some sort of senior bro/junior teacher there. It's his family's private school. The princess entered that school disguising herself as her maternal cousin, but was discovered later when her cousin, who was supposed to be at school, made a mess elsewhere. Gongsun and Princess met at the academy (the scene with the falcon, the scene with a go game when they've recognised each other as players of the game at the monastery and the scene in which he gives her a special go manual he copied for her, all happened in the novel as well)
A lot of this made much more sense in the novel, because everyone including Xie Zheng talks about her status not…
Having read the novel, I don't share your view of his "looking down on her", while in the drama is impressed by her. He is certainly more prone to think, is more experienced and skilled and ofc more knowledgable - both in the drama and in the novel. The drama indeed (and totally naturally) left out certain things from the novel - I agree with you on that and among these things is his interior assessing of the situation in which he was after she rescued him, along with the persons around. His reserved attitude was expressed both in the novel and in the drama but through different tools (and that's also normal, they are different media): the drama was more focused on ML's expressions and actions/dialogues, while the novel also followed his "inner thoughts". And this thing can be applied to his other characterial traits: protectivness, a sense of family he longs for but achieves only through her, curiosity about her parents' story, physical attraction, shared values to protect the weak and find out the truth, immediate resentment (and punishment) of arrogant, bullies etc. The core things (plotline and characters) are present and the same in both, while the differences in the story are marginal and due to their medium differences.
A lot of this made much more sense in the novel, because everyone including Xie Zheng talks about her status not…
Her "need to grow" could be a pro argument to tell her the truth but with so many "cons", to me it seems more logical not to. At least, not before he deals with more pressing issues. And it is not that he doesn't trust her capabilities at all, he still left her with Lord Li once assured she is ok.
A lot of this made much more sense in the novel, because everyone including Xie Zheng talks about her status not…
I've read the novel, . I agree this aspect (=hiding his identity from her) is better explained in the novel, but still think it was sufficiently explained in the drama. Drama cannot be extensive as novels (otherwise, they'll be terribly draggy) and I still think, this drama gave an excellent simplified version of the story in the novel. Eg., the dialogue between ML and FL on how they imagine their future spouses occurred in the drama, too (when they were sitting near a beacon) and I think there was no need to show us what he was thinking in that moment, as it happened in the book. I agree the added Tao-FL dialogue in the drama which compared Tao's disciple and Yan Zheng was unnecessary. It was added for fun, as well as her buddies from Lin'an. Anyways, those slight changes still doesn't affect the drama tells the same story from the novel and that in this precise moment of the narrative, FL and ML are... unequally matched and that the FL, for how the drama showed her "more self-aware", as you've said, she still needs a long path to go in terms of knowledge, experience and skills (as well as to find out the truth about her own parents).
Drama cut off certain less important scenes from the novel (and that's ok), but it also left out its important focus on political and military strategy (eg. XZ's planning of the battles) and the underlying power conflict which were the only relatively original aspect of the entire story.
The direction however remained great all along, it's a feast for the eyes. If you watch the trailers, a scene in the bath is so well shot, the leads wear white and black and their push and pull in circle forms a spectacular yin and yang symbol with their wet clothes☯️I can only imagine how much effort they've put to shoot that scene
Idk, after adding the pig squad, the princess's medical practice, 2-3 side couples' push&pulls etc, I feel as the drama scriptwriters have messed with the main plot and on who was where and how he/she got there having no time or intentionally avoiding to put some light on the backstory of the track they've changed.
Someone said here the production changed the scriptwriter(s) midway... Idk, but the drama storytelling was ok until the dam blowing up - that was the first big loophole. In order to give more importance to her squad and tutor Tao in that sloppily written scene, the scriptwriters resorted to an insane idea of "let them pick the lots" to divide people who would be sacrificed with the dam in the explosion from those who can return home. And it was tutor Tao - a captive and a corvée till that moment - who decided on it, not the Commander in Chief and a person who had the idea of flooding the enemy's army, ie. XZ.
In order to give more screentime to certain side characters, the drama changed, left out or introduced certain subplots, eg. the princess acting as an "imperial doctor" or combining two characters, like Li Huaian, who embodies both LH from the novel and junior general Tang, general He's disciple (who was the one FCY knocked off in the novel, when he charged like crazy), but opened important loopholes (why would a princess know so much about the medicine? Why would Li tutor have send his grandson to be a disciple of a general from the Wei's faction?) failing to make these characters and the connected plot fully believable.
"It was seen by upward of a billion people as it toured the land, playing to entire factories and villages in makeshift screenings. Fifty years after its debut, many in China can still recite entire scenes line for line."
https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1010236
Amazing!
She appears seldom, but she was a key player in saving the ML when the emperor tried to frame him passing the message to Changyu in the palace. And it was thanks to her, the truth connected with the former emperor and Wei was revealed.
Gongsun and Princess met at the academy (the scene with the falcon, the scene with a go game when they've recognised each other as players of the game at the monastery and the scene in which he gives her a special go manual he copied for her, all happened in the novel as well)
The drama indeed (and totally naturally) left out certain things from the novel - I agree with you on that and among these things is his interior assessing of the situation in which he was after she rescued him, along with the persons around. His reserved attitude was expressed both in the novel and in the drama but through different tools (and that's also normal, they are different media): the drama was more focused on ML's expressions and actions/dialogues, while the novel also followed his "inner thoughts". And this thing can be applied to his other characterial traits: protectivness, a sense of family he longs for but achieves only through her, curiosity about her parents' story, physical attraction, shared values to protect the weak and find out the truth, immediate resentment (and punishment) of arrogant, bullies etc.
The core things (plotline and characters) are present and the same in both, while the differences in the story are marginal and due to their medium differences.
And it is not that he doesn't trust her capabilities at all, he still left her with Lord Li once assured she is ok.
I agree this aspect (=hiding his identity from her) is better explained in the novel, but still think it was sufficiently explained in the drama. Drama cannot be extensive as novels (otherwise, they'll be terribly draggy) and I still think, this drama gave an excellent simplified version of the story in the novel. Eg., the dialogue between ML and FL on how they imagine their future spouses occurred in the drama, too (when they were sitting near a beacon) and I think there was no need to show us what he was thinking in that moment, as it happened in the book.
I agree the added Tao-FL dialogue in the drama which compared Tao's disciple and Yan Zheng was unnecessary. It was added for fun, as well as her buddies from Lin'an.
Anyways, those slight changes still doesn't affect the drama tells the same story from the novel and that in this precise moment of the narrative, FL and ML are... unequally matched and that the FL, for how the drama showed her "more self-aware", as you've said, she still needs a long path to go in terms of knowledge, experience and skills (as well as to find out the truth about her own parents).