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Replying to vesca May 26, 2024
As Eldest Princes is the main villain - screenwriters are keeping her out of our view - so it will be a surprise…
2nd prince henchman who poisoned himself in prison
Replying to Emmaline Zhang May 26, 2024
I feel like it was emperor’s doing . Do you remember he zhong wei? When he came out from FX’s house after…
Emperor's goals are "unfanthomable", lol. He keep all his sons in check, balance their power by using one against another, but in a way, he also trains them. He is a ruthless autocrat, no doubt, but we still have to know him better as to grasp his entire personality
Replying to 12256387 May 25, 2024
You have to understand those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because…
If you like GoT, I can remind you of one of its highest point, present in both the drama and the novel, which happened before her invasion of Westeros, she conquered a slave-regime city, deciding to stay and rule it: "I'm a queen and I'll do what the queens do, I will rule".
In that lucid moment, even Danaerys understood that ruling (=politcs) is harder than conquering (and how many people you've killed in the process).
You see Mao Ni as GRR Martin (I don't like either the latter, but must admit he created a totally new world), well, he isn't
Replying to 12256387 May 25, 2024
You have to understand those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because…
Ok, now you've made yourself more clear, too. Tnx for your effort. Anyways, one doesn't need to read the novel to appreciate the drama, or understand in which genre to put it. According to darwinism, humans are "the most intelligent creatures because they are tending to adapt to whatever setting (or genre, in our case, lol) they are put in." Missducky88 is so right about it.
Replying to MoMoAbi May 25, 2024
Well said! Tbh this season has been as amazing as S1 for me. I was really worried they screw something up after…
Don't worry, it wasn't your fault, next time I'll use a funny emoji to make my words clear. Besides, you're right: I was "venting" smth, but what I was venting has nothing to do with the right to a different opinion. I'm this reactive only if I feel some injustice, arrogance or smth similar. Don't worry, I gladly read - good or bad - comments. They help to form mine, too. 😊
Replying to vesca May 25, 2024
no matter which eunuch did that - it was an Emperor's order as he wanted FX to investigate old imperial exam cheating…
Bravo!
Replying to Emmaline Zhang May 25, 2024
I feel like it was emperor’s doing . Do you remember he zhong wei? When he came out from FX’s house after…
I doubt that, because Lin was ready to offer himself as a scapegoat for the investigation on previous years' imperial examination. PM Lin trusts FX a lot, he seems he will be glad to sacrifice his position if that allows FX to rise. It was the emperor's doing, through his chief eunuch. FX can't take over Neiku having a PM as father-in-law, along with CPP and FJ backing. Too much power, from the emperor's pov, and he already shown to FX (by killing the chief censor) that he is destined to a "lonely position". Which position is the loneliest?
Replying to vesca May 25, 2024
As Eldest Princes is the main villain - screenwriters are keeping her out of our view - so it will be a surprise…
yes. And this is not a "minor difference". The whole "course of action" was changed and - imo - repaired by scriptwriting which changed the order of the events, making the story more thrilling
Replying to vesca May 25, 2024
As Eldest Princes is the main villain - screenwriters are keeping her out of our view - so it will be a surprise…
I think that, too. Very curious how it will be developed in the drama
Replying to 12256387 May 25, 2024
You have to understand those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because…
another thing. We both have a "positive view" on S2, but do you know this will be your opinion till the very end? Do you know what kind of votes will you assign if you decide to write a review? Because I have no idea, I must first watch it all to have an idea
Replying to 12256387 May 25, 2024
You have to understand those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because…
wise words 👍
Replying to 12256387 May 25, 2024
You have to understand those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because…
I'll repeat it again: I'm not against their critics AT ALL and I am totally fine with people who dropped this drama or this season. I myself dropped more than 90% of c-dramas I've started (I'm picky, remember?). How could I blame people who dropped smth they don't like?
But if a person continues to watch smth he/she doesn't like, while already reviewed and assigned votes to different compartments of the drama after only a few episodes, don't you think something is not ok?

Returning to why your logic is not validated: 1. most people who have positive opinion on JoL2 haven't read the novel. To this I'll add 2. I've read (although not recently) negative comments, too, expressed by people who have read the novel: they'd preferred scriptwriting stayed stick to the novel, following the order and plots of the novel. So, "not reading the novel" can't be the reason of negative opinions on this drama.
Replying to MoMoAbi May 25, 2024
Well said! Tbh this season has been as amazing as S1 for me. I was really worried they screw something up after…
comparing them to the emperor's disorder, I've thought it was an obvious joke, not a judgment. We all have the right to an opinion yes, and the freedom of speech, on condition our speech is not offensive or nonsensic. If they are out of the norms, we can't blame other people reacting against it. Few days ago, I've reacted to an offensive comment towards you, as I've couldn't stand it...
Replying to 12256387 May 25, 2024
You have to understand those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because…
you've said: "(...) those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because they never read the novel." But most of the people discussing the drama here are people who never read the novel, and most of that people (who never read the novel) LIKE or view positively the drama (whatever they've expected), so your logic above is not validated by the fact it isn't necessary to read the novel to have a positive opinion (or a realistic expectation) on the drama.
Replying to AleksandraSucur May 25, 2024
Eunuch Hong is siding with FX
he didn't want to let other people know he was a person from an exterminated clan. Other people may be wary of persons like Hong/Chen, supposing they may hold grudges.
Replying to Sharkamy May 25, 2024
The one commented 'too obvious solution...' Things like that, I feel like I need their brain (I wished they not…
Yeah, all-knowing brains... 😂
Replying to 12256387 May 25, 2024
You have to understand those people who watched S2 expect the same kind of story line or plot like S1 because…
I respect everyone's right to criticise (or praise) and you know that. This is not about the right to like or criticise, it's also useful when we share and discuss our different opinions, because that's the right way to have a better insight and to objectify our reasoning... it's about when and why we (all) should REVIEW a drama. How can anybody review and assign votes to different compartments of a drama if he/she watched less than a third? What kind of review is that? And why they continue to watch (chosing "ongoing" and not "dropped" status)? How can they be so confident of their overall opinion, when they've never discussed what exactly they dislike or don't understand (like scriptwriting) with other viewers?
Don't judge all the people through your lenses: you've read the novel, I've read parts of it and did so only recently, but most of the people discussing here haven't read it at all and they still like it as an independent dramatic form, discussing normally, without arrogance and intention to form their final opinion till the very end?
Replying to 31363 May 25, 2024
Is the eunuch good or bad? I feel like he’s helping the emperor? Or someone else?
Eunuch Hong is siding with FX
Replying to MoMoAbi May 25, 2024
Well said! Tbh this season has been as amazing as S1 for me. I was really worried they screw something up after…
These people write reviews to talk - and to talk from above, as some sort of judges - about themselves. Maybe they suffer from heavier forms of narcissistic disorders than the Qing emperor in JoL.
Replying to Lucifer Morningstar May 25, 2024
Yeah, I mean if we just talk about the cdramaland, this show is very superior, especially in terms of writing,…
expecting a different thing from the announced one doesn't make this storytelling wrong, it makes their expectation wrong