It was legendary

If it’s abuse then everyone will agree on it like how everyone agreed on the father whipping and slapping paytai as a physical abuse to paytai and emotional abuse to Ramil. since people are divided about it then it’s definitely not and it’s depend on your perspective. Both Ramil and paytai have dysfunctional upbringing so their relationship won’t be a healthy and normal one, we are still got 9 episode left to know more about their dynamic before we can put a label on it

I want to talk about the consent part which seem to be a concern of many and it’s a very valid point. like does paytai have a choice, is he in the position to say No to Ramil, when charan can hardly say No to the king and sometime even to Khanin despite charan being more independent financially. in the press interviewes Jimmy and Ohm said multiple times about Ramil Paytai that they are childhood friends This is part of what jimmy said

((Ramil and Paytsi have been friends since childhood. He's the son of a noble man and his father has entrusted him to be the prince's son's friend. The prince didn't want anyone's son to befriend with his son.He selected the friend for his son. So, he became the friend of the prince's son. I don't have any other friends but this only one all my life.))

So they started out as friends as they grew older their feeling have changed, we still don’t know maybe paytai kissed Ramil first, just because Ramil is superior to him doesn’t mean that paytai had no choice since the begging. while talking about the garden of Eden with charan he obviously love Ramil otherwise why he would remember him when charan talked about “desiring what you can’t have”.

I advice you to patiently wait before you make your judgment as the story of Ramil paytai unfold episode by episode. also if you are above 18 research BDSM and you will understand that it’s not abuse. If you are under 18 then you should skip RamilPaytai scenes.

after this episode I’m sure charan actually wrote the book “surrounded by physchopaths”, while dealing with all these royals, king soft kicked him off the palace and kind of threaten him to stay away from khanin and go back to be a teacher, can’t even have one day before khanin and chakir invade his classroom and ruin two of his lessons. khanin even felt he is entitled to ordering him in front of his student. next day Ramil invade his class and pulled paytai in the middle of the class without even looking at charan like he is just another statue. couldn’t even stay teacher for one week, he have to go back to coach khanin cause grandpa can’t say no to him ( at least charan is happy with this order to be Khanin fencing trainer)
All these royals are crazy, I think the only normal and sane one is Ava, I don’t trust prince Calvin acting all innocent and naive I don’t buy it.

No, Ramil was crazy possessive of paytai but
There was no bdsm nor D/S dynamic. They definitely evolve if every aspect from the book into more deep and darker version in the series

I finally got the time to write a short analysis of Ramil and his father relationship based on episode 4 and some book comparison without spoilers

So far the changes between the book and the series are more darker
In the book : the king wasn’t as bitchy and anti charanKhanin as he is in the series
in the book : Ava’s father wasn’t as caword as they portrayed him in the series. for example in the book when Ava wanted to join the competition he defend his daughter and spoke on her behalf while in the series he was at first terrified then stay silent.

The biggest change so far is in Rachata and Ramil relationship, while they didn’t have the best father-son relationship in the book, still Ramil was able to say his opinion, question his father decisions and confront him, paytai wasn’t the “whipping boy”. it was an old tradition and when Rachata slapped paytai once and Ramil find out, he waited for his father for hours until he came home to confront him and ask him to not hurt paytai again. series Ramil is abused and terrified to the point that he can’t even say a word while his father is hurting the person he loves.

Ramil want his father to be the king, because he believes it’s the only way he and paytai can live happily and be together without fear. if his father become the king he have to move to the capital while Ramil will be appointed as the ruler of Phuchongphisut. But Ramil is naive and wrong if he think when his father become the king he will leave him alone.

In the book Ramil have a turning point, I doubt it will be the same in the series, so I think it will be related to Paytai
I have this feeling that Ramil’s father is going to propose an alliance with Thawichmetha through marriage between his son and Ava ( I still think there is a purpose behind them not making them cousins like in the book since Ramil and khanin are still cousins) I think this will be Ramil turning point and what will make him finally fight against his father and say No.

I don’t understand why jimmyohm weren’t on this episode reaction video like it’s the episode that they appeared the most. It’s not like they were so busy they had no schedule since 22 and ohm event with kim was yesterday. it’s clearly this video was filmed before yesterday so there is no excuse. I really wanted them to talk about how it was to film such a difficult scene and get more insight on the characters

I think they put them all as main cast based on the poster, his interest in the other guys won’t last much both in the pilot and documentary he only kiss and been intimate with Ping character

I’m really excited for this series. I will have something interesting to watch after tnp ends. But why all the cast are listed as lead when it’s clear that pingnut are the main lead,
I’m still shocked that they are the same age Nut look like he is no older than 25.

I really really really want someone to talk about paytai getting abused in next episode and because I’m sure he and Ramil never talk about it. at least not since it first happened when paytai was younger. I want charan to talk to him about it, charan only saw him getting slapped but he probably heard before about what happens in Phuchongphisut. there was a scene in the book were charan alued to paytai having a choice to leave but he chose to suffer, the series took a different direction than the book, but I hope we got a similar scene next episode.

This part wasn’t in the book the father only slapped paytai once and Ramil was angry when he find out and confronted him, the second director of TNP tweeted about the book you mentioned and said they took inspiration from it,
Khanin haven’t seen all that, he only saw the father slapping paytai and forceing Ramil to apologize the rest was after khanin left.

He isn’t only a director but an acting coach and a university professor, so I’m sure what he is doing is professional way of comforting and helping an actor to get out of character because ohm was definitely still affected by playing paytai in whatever scene that he was shooting that time. I trust this guy with jimmyohm more than Aof and prefer if he will be magic lover director.

This is their first series toghter, they have upcoming series “ magic lover” and you can watch them on this show (DMD friendship the reality it takes two) on mandee yotube channel.

Ramil and khanin are still distance cousins like in the book but they make it from mother side instead of grandfathers being cousins . This makes me question if they didn’t follow the book when it comes to Ramil and Ava being cousin is because there will be some sort of engagement between the two despite them both being gay but I bet ratch don’t give a damn

He love him now, but same I wonder if he had a choice at the beginning of this relationship. Like if Ramil told him to sit closer to him like Khanin did to charan, then leaned to kiss him well he dare to stop him or say no like Charon would do since he have a choice to reject and say no .

Seems there are people who don’t understand that this page isn’t your social media feeds, it’s a series page, were we talk and discuss this show. I hate a certain song my husband had been listening to for awhile now, I got irritated when I hear it, I have been telling him how much I hate this song and how it’s sucks. but I never ever would’ve gone and write a comment under the song yotube video expressing how it sucks or rate it one star on Spotify. You can express your hatred and jealousy somehowere els, vent to friend, family or go touch some grass.

My thought and analysis of the characters so far (episode 1-3)

Khanin is just a chesse piece in the king court, he see him more as the tool to secure his son ascending to the throne therefor securing his family legacy and reign over Emmaly, I guess this is the reason why the four families aren’t blood related like in the book. Meeting his grandson for the first time was a show of power in front of the other families, he didn’t even bother to let him meet his father before introducing them in front of everyone. staging Thatdanai death was a big part of his plan to control khanin even before he arrived to Emmaly and said he isn’t welling to participate in the competition. he don’t care about khanin feeling and what he wants, he only want to use him to keep his family reign over Emmaly.
BTW Nunew acting has significantly improved since cutie pie, I really admire his passion and dedication to be a better actor and improve himself, cause trust me many who reach his level of popularity won’t care to put much effort since they are already popular with a huge loyal fanbase.


Charan I’m glad that he wasn’t portrayed as the blindly loyal bodyguard, he obey the king order in front of him, yet his Conscience and moral won’t allow him to ignore how the king made him lie to Charan, asking his friend to searching for Thatdanai is really brave and might lead to his death if the king knew.
we still haven’t seen much about Charan beyond him as a bodyguard. I see many criticizing his acting, but what I’m seeing is him acting according to the role. he have to keep a poker face but in some scene I can see his emotions through his eyes like when it was raining and he remembered his mother ( ep2) and how it’s difficult for him to lie to khanin about his grandfather death (ep3)


Ava and Ramil, both born as royal hiers but the way the were raised differently have a huge impact on their personality, let’s start with Ava

Ava was raised by a loving father who give her the freedom which came from her being a women therefor overlooked as a potential hire due to Emmaly prejudice and misogyny. she studies aboard which help into making her the strong, confident, independent women she is today. she was the only one who actually smiled at khanin.

Ramil was raised as the son of the next king, his father feed him arrogance and supremacy since he was very young, he felt that he is entitled to many thing as the son of the future king, Ramil didn’t talk much last episode but he said it all through his eyes and face expressions ( shock, fear, jealousy and disdain). I’m really impressed with jimmy’s acting and I can’t wait to see more of him as his story with paytai unfolds.

Yeah and the inhaler in episode 2 was very obvious advertisement misplacement like what train will have a trolly with inhealer, trolleys either in plane or train are used to offer food, snacks and beverages. Hopefully they will continue doing this separate clips for sponsors

I love how they released a separate clip for the sponser this episode, this is what I suggested the first episode, keep the constructive criticism and give them ideas and solutions instead of just being negative and hateful

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qaalB_rtsxs&pp=0gcJCY0JAYcqIYzv

The script isn’t an excuse, he still can show and deliver his emotions through his eyes but he only have been giving this poker face since last episode, same face after hearing his son is alive, same face after seeing his son for the first time. it just a shame because the series is fantastic but he is running these moment that supposed to be heartwarming and emotional with his cold expressions

Hell yeah. Finally someone talking about the father I have been bothered by his expressions since last episode, trust me it have nothing to do with the plot he isn’t shady character at all. He clearly can’t act. Like look at jimmy he didn’t have much to say this episode but his eyes and expressions says it all.