Oh, boo hoo, playing the victim again, are we? How brave of you to gatekeep an entire genre while simultaneously dismissing anyone who dares to have a different opinion. Yes, by all means, let’s reduce the conversation to “I LIVE THIS LIFE YOU DON’T” as if that somehow makes your perspective the only valid one. Newsflash: being gay doesn’t give you a monopoly on understanding or enjoying BL content, nor does it make you immune to criticism.
And please, spare us the theatrics about “paying your dues” and “defending your brothers.” No one’s questioning your lived experience, but that doesn’t mean you get to silence others or act like their opinions are less valid because they don’t align with yours. If you’re so tired of women having opinions, maybe take a break from the forums instead of demanding everyone bow to your “INFORMED” perspective.
As for your ultimatum about only responding to users with real names and profile photos—how very dramatic. I’m sure that’ll solve all your problems. Until then, maybe take a deep breath and remember that not everything is about you. Cheers!
Oh, of course, it’s always the women who are wrong, isn’t it? How convenient to dismiss their opinions as if they’re somehow less valid just because they don’t align with yours. And let’s not pretend you’re not constantly on MDL with the same tired, women-hating rhetoric. I don’t know what women did to you, but maybe it’s time to address that instead of projecting your issues onto every comment section.
As for the sex scenes, it’s almost like people have different preferences—shocking, I know. Some women want more intimacy in BL dramas, others want less. But hey, why let nuance get in the way of your sweeping generalizations, right? Keep doing you, I guess. Jesus indeed.
cos of the actor? they're not pedophiles but it is weird that his parents had to sign a permission slip and he…
Yes and he was in Dead Friends Forever and he was 17 then- He did an nc scene and oh my lord.. They need to stop taking advantage of young actors. Its seems like they wanted Fuiaz not just because he fit the 'pretty bottom' architype but because he was young and they could pay him less because hes still considered a child in Thailand...
I completely understand your mixed feelings about the show, and I think it’s valid to feel conflicted about the dynamics between Yoh and Segasaki. However, I’d like to offer a slightly different perspective on their relationship, particularly regarding the idea of toxicity.
Yoh is, in many ways, an unreliable narrator. His perception of the relationship is heavily influenced by his own insecurities and self-doubt. When he describes feeling like a "slave" or being trapped, it’s important to remember that this is his interpretation of events, not necessarily the objective truth. If we take his words at face value, it’s easy to see why someone might view the relationship as toxic. But when we see Segasaki’s side of the story, it becomes clear that his actions are driven by genuine affection and care for Yoh. He wants to live with Yoh and support him because he likes him—not because he wants to control or dominate him.
That said, I agree that Segasaki’s possessiveness and communication issues can come across as problematic, especially in the early episodes. His flaws are undeniable, and the relationship is far from perfect. But I think the show intentionally portrays these imperfections to highlight the complexities of human relationships. Love isn’t always straightforward or healthy, especially when both individuals are dealing with their own emotional baggage.
As for the toxicity in Yaoi/BL stories, I think it’s less about writers thinking toxicity is "necessary" and more about exploring the messy, imperfect side of relationships. While it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, these dynamics can make the story feel more realistic and relatable for some viewers. That doesn’t mean we have to romanticize or excuse unhealthy behavior, but it does add depth to the characters and their journey.
Ultimately, whether you enjoy the show or not depends on your tolerance for flawed characters and complicated relationships. If you can look past the possessiveness and focus on the genuine feelings between Yoh and Segasaki, it’s easy to see why so many people find their story compelling. But if the toxicity is too much to overlook, that’s completely valid too. It’s okay to have mixed feelings—it just means the show made you think, and that’s not a bad thing!
I respectfully disagree with your take on the show, and I think there’s some nuance here that’s being overlooked. While I understand your perspective, labeling Segasaki as "toxic" feels like an oversimplification of his character. The show intentionally portrays him as flawed and complex, not as a one-dimensional villain. His actions, while problematic at times, stem from his own insecurities and struggles with communication, not from a place of malice or abuse.
As for Yoh, describing him as an "unreliable narrator" is spot on. His perception of being treated like a "slave" is rooted in his own self-doubt and inability to see his worth, not necessarily in Segasaki’s intentions. Segasaki repeatedly expresses his feelings for Yoh and even invites him to live together, which clearly shows his affection, even if he struggles to express it in healthier ways. Their relationship is messy, but that’s what makes it realistic. Not every relationship is built on perfect communication from the start, sometimes it’s about growth and understanding, even if that growth is slow or imperfect.
Regarding the lack of communication, I agree it can be frustrating, but it’s also a deliberate choice to highlight their individual struggles. Miscommunication is a common theme in relationships, and while it’s not always "cute," it’s often relatable. The show doesn’t shy away from portraying the awkward, uncomfortable, and sometimes painful aspects of love, which is part of what makes it compelling.
As for the lack of character development, I’d argue that both characters do evolve, albeit subtly. Segasaki becomes more open about his feelings, and Yoh starts to recognize his own value. It’s not a dramatic transformation, but it’s a realistic one. Not every story needs a neat resolution to be meaningful, sometimes the journey itself is the point.
Finally, I think it’s worth acknowledging that the actors did a fantastic job bringing these characters to life. Their performances added depth to the story, even if the narrative didn’t follow a traditional or idealized path.
In short, while the show may not resonate with everyone, it’s far from a "1." It’s a nuanced exploration of flawed characters navigating a complicated relationship, and that’s what makes it worth watching, even if it’s not perfect.
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And please, spare us the theatrics about “paying your dues” and “defending your brothers.” No one’s questioning your lived experience, but that doesn’t mean you get to silence others or act like their opinions are less valid because they don’t align with yours. If you’re so tired of women having opinions, maybe take a break from the forums instead of demanding everyone bow to your “INFORMED” perspective.
As for your ultimatum about only responding to users with real names and profile photos—how very dramatic. I’m sure that’ll solve all your problems. Until then, maybe take a deep breath and remember that not everything is about you. Cheers!
As for the sex scenes, it’s almost like people have different preferences—shocking, I know. Some women want more intimacy in BL dramas, others want less. But hey, why let nuance get in the way of your sweeping generalizations, right? Keep doing you, I guess. Jesus indeed.
Yoh is, in many ways, an unreliable narrator. His perception of the relationship is heavily influenced by his own insecurities and self-doubt. When he describes feeling like a "slave" or being trapped, it’s important to remember that this is his interpretation of events, not necessarily the objective truth. If we take his words at face value, it’s easy to see why someone might view the relationship as toxic. But when we see Segasaki’s side of the story, it becomes clear that his actions are driven by genuine affection and care for Yoh. He wants to live with Yoh and support him because he likes him—not because he wants to control or dominate him.
That said, I agree that Segasaki’s possessiveness and communication issues can come across as problematic, especially in the early episodes. His flaws are undeniable, and the relationship is far from perfect. But I think the show intentionally portrays these imperfections to highlight the complexities of human relationships. Love isn’t always straightforward or healthy, especially when both individuals are dealing with their own emotional baggage.
As for the toxicity in Yaoi/BL stories, I think it’s less about writers thinking toxicity is "necessary" and more about exploring the messy, imperfect side of relationships. While it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, these dynamics can make the story feel more realistic and relatable for some viewers. That doesn’t mean we have to romanticize or excuse unhealthy behavior, but it does add depth to the characters and their journey.
Ultimately, whether you enjoy the show or not depends on your tolerance for flawed characters and complicated relationships. If you can look past the possessiveness and focus on the genuine feelings between Yoh and Segasaki, it’s easy to see why so many people find their story compelling. But if the toxicity is too much to overlook, that’s completely valid too. It’s okay to have mixed feelings—it just means the show made you think, and that’s not a bad thing!
As for Yoh, describing him as an "unreliable narrator" is spot on. His perception of being treated like a "slave" is rooted in his own self-doubt and inability to see his worth, not necessarily in Segasaki’s intentions. Segasaki repeatedly expresses his feelings for Yoh and even invites him to live together, which clearly shows his affection, even if he struggles to express it in healthier ways. Their relationship is messy, but that’s what makes it realistic. Not every relationship is built on perfect communication from the start, sometimes it’s about growth and understanding, even if that growth is slow or imperfect.
Regarding the lack of communication, I agree it can be frustrating, but it’s also a deliberate choice to highlight their individual struggles. Miscommunication is a common theme in relationships, and while it’s not always "cute," it’s often relatable. The show doesn’t shy away from portraying the awkward, uncomfortable, and sometimes painful aspects of love, which is part of what makes it compelling.
As for the lack of character development, I’d argue that both characters do evolve, albeit subtly. Segasaki becomes more open about his feelings, and Yoh starts to recognize his own value. It’s not a dramatic transformation, but it’s a realistic one. Not every story needs a neat resolution to be meaningful, sometimes the journey itself is the point.
Finally, I think it’s worth acknowledging that the actors did a fantastic job bringing these characters to life. Their performances added depth to the story, even if the narrative didn’t follow a traditional or idealized path.
In short, while the show may not resonate with everyone, it’s far from a "1." It’s a nuanced exploration of flawed characters navigating a complicated relationship, and that’s what makes it worth watching, even if it’s not perfect.