a person who gives great shows like ATOTS a 7.5 rating and Last Twilight an 8 should not be talking about quality…
Everyone is different - and entitled to like diff things despite popularity and awards.
I liked and enjoyed the Last Twilight - but I am more critical then you. I felt that that the script writers favoured Day at the expense of Mohk. Day was not all that in personality or looks, or even interested in Mohk enough to care about his trauma. I could not buy that someone like Mohk would be chasing Day - one character was doing all the giving in the relationship and getting nothing back which made me not convinced in this one sided relationship as the relationship progressed. The writers overvalued Day because he was disabled and made him the centre of the universe - when he wasnt all that. It did not feel authentic.
I dont think you are able to understand or address my criticism of the drama anyway.
a person who gives great shows like ATOTS a 7.5 rating and Last Twilight an 8 should not be talking about quality…
Last twilight deserves at most a 7. The writers got lazy disrespected the character Mohk by using the "pity angle" . And the relationship between the two characters was unconvincing especially towards the end. I could not understand how Mohk could run after someone who gives nothing back - not even a basic understanding of his trauma and emotional needs. Was Mohk only attracted to Day because Day was disabled?
ATOS - I found the acting wooden so although I watched it - I skipped most of it so I cant comment fairly,
The first red flag the show had was the dialogue that Day vomited on Mhok's first day as caretaker. Something…
I had to go and downgrade my rating. Your analysis made me annoyed with the writers and treatment of Mhok and I can unthink.
1. That pity angle is unforgivable. Some people value relationships (for whatever reason - love, grief, attachment) more than work opportunities. If that is interpreted as "pity" then it is DAY projecting. AND worse then blaming Mhok and ending the relationship. 2. I dont think Day even made an effort to understand Mohk and his issues or trauma. Or to apologise. 3. Overvaluing Day and Undervaluing Mohk: It got so tiresome seeing Mohk do so so much giving. I could not buy into the fact that Mohk was so invested in Day. Personally I saw Mohk being way above Days league - goodlooking strong greenflag character.
My takeaway: The writers PITIED Day because of his disability, so they made Mohk adore and love Day for no reason other then Day being blind.
The first red flag the show had was the dialogue that Day vomited on Mhok's first day as caretaker. Something…
Thank you for the analysis and insight. Disregarding Mhoks issues, and his character, cheapened the show. In the later episodes I could not buy into this relationship. Too much one sided fawning over Day.
They made it like Mohk is ugly, uncharismatic, or so lacking that he should be grateful that he has Day. Its not like Day is a 10/10 and Mohk is a desperate 4/10..
It left me wondering what Mhok saw in Day - when his needs were not being met. Mhok is running around buying Day presents, giving 100% of himself but what does Day give back. It felt too much one sided. Day has a playmate that gives him affection.
I understand why Mohks psychology, experiences and trauma would make him get involved - but that is not what I am discussing here. As the show progressed, the characters became more superficial.
Funny how people pay to see murder, bulling, violence but avoid sex like its the biggest sin out.
I appreciate your point (good points that made me think) but don't get your argument. Sexual content can have a narrative value. What has narrative value can also be subjective.
But irrespective we are willing to watch "moral failings" like violence but not something that titillates - for that we add an age restriction. I avoid violence /brutality in films for my mental hygiene (irrespective of the narrative), I am not negatively affected by films showing toxicity in relationships, unhappy endings, sexual content or nudity (i dont watch porn -that is a diff category).
I dont see the problem with "sexual" content inserted to titillate.
Costs are going up, yet the quality is going down. Korean dramas are starting to eat its own tail. There are some…
They used to be exciting and different. But now the same tropes - the amnesia, the meeting of leads in childhood, the evil mother in law, the love triangle... and its the same plots, Sometimes the first few episodes are good but it goes downhill midway and I am bored.
Korean dramas are becoming like the western dramas I got bored off.
Sometimes I come across something good (Mr Plankton, Secret Garden, etc) but for the most part they are becoming repetitive.
Drugs are not a problem - the big problem is the rape accusation. Lack of sufficient evidence does not mean he…
Thank you - you have expressed my thoughts exactly. I dont want to be unkind towards a celebrity who has been harassed unfairly on many other issues (when I dont know the truth). But I feel for this victim who is powerless to get any justice if the allegations are true.
I loved green flag Jay so was not expecting that twist and pettiness in episode 4. The show just got more fun and interesting with Jimmy coming into the picture.
Its getting so good that I regret starting the show before all the episodes are aired.
well Gaga just got back to me and they hadn’t even heard of the series until I messaged yesterday…. but Gaga…
If there is money to be made it will be released internationally by somebody -its a matter of negotiation.
I dont know how Gaga does not know what is happening / being produced in the industry. This is a potential "product" so I dont buy that they are that clueless. (they may not have been approached )
I work as an analyst (in non media industry) and we keep tabs on what is happening in the industry and market, and what competitors are doing.
dunno why this has only 5.6 Rating, I actually loved it. It was no way perfect but it was so fun to watch. The…
You are right. It is fun. So glad I read your post and I am watching it ( on episode 5,).
It does deserve higher rating - but I think most viewers want more action or boring "good" characters. They vote on the morals of the characters. Me - I like the dialogue and game playing and cheating, and imperfect characters. Also like that it has adults rather than high school kids.
The profile photo does not do him justice - its so different with how he appears in shows. Watching Cherry Magic, I see a good looking actor on screen - and I go to find out who the actor is - and I am surprised its Mark. He looks so much better than this photo. Same with Star & Sky.
Really like the couple but disappointed with this show. Enjoyed the first 4 /5 episodes but then it got boring. Did not dislike the GL part but found it not appropriate or necessary for this story. And they dragged it out.
To be fair i enjoy the "being enemies" part more - find the interaction more amusing and interesting than when its just lovers being nice (and boring) each other. I find shows like My Stand-in so much more interesting with more dimensions.
I've never seen such jobless people. 24/7 hate commenting on this page.. 😂
lol its pathetic from both sides. Its become an unhealthy obsession for a lot.
I commented initially (against KSH) but now it serves no purpose to go over the same points. And in the end, it does not matter how much you comment here - it wont make a difference except affect peoples mental health and waste their time.
I am excited to see one of the actors from "Every You, Every me (Director's Cut)" on this show.
I have just finished Every You, Every me (so underrated) which had a concept that was so different from other dramas. I enjoyed the production, and performance by Top Piyawat /Mick - so I eagerly waiting .
I liked and enjoyed the Last Twilight - but I am more critical then you. I felt that that the script writers favoured Day at the expense of Mohk. Day was not all that in personality or looks, or even interested in Mohk enough to care about his trauma. I could not buy that someone like Mohk would be chasing Day - one character was doing all the giving in the relationship and getting nothing back which made me not convinced in this one sided relationship as the relationship progressed. The writers overvalued Day because he was disabled and made him the centre of the universe - when he wasnt all that. It did not feel authentic.
I dont think you are able to understand or address my criticism of the drama anyway.
And the other one bored me.
If I can compare it to a similar concept show - "Only Boo." found that cute and thought the script was better written and story more engaging.
I gave it a 7.5 because of the production and cinematography which is particularly good for a Thai bl. The script and characters left me bored.
And the relationship between the two characters was unconvincing especially towards the end. I could not understand how Mohk could run after someone who gives nothing back - not even a basic understanding of his trauma and emotional needs. Was Mohk only attracted to Day because Day was disabled?
ATOS - I found the acting wooden so although I watched it - I skipped most of it so I cant comment fairly,
1. That pity angle is unforgivable. Some people value relationships (for whatever reason - love, grief, attachment) more than work opportunities. If that is interpreted as "pity" then it is DAY projecting. AND worse
then blaming Mhok and ending the relationship.
2. I dont think Day even made an effort to understand Mohk and his issues or trauma. Or to apologise.
3. Overvaluing Day and Undervaluing Mohk: It got so tiresome seeing Mohk do so so much giving. I could not buy into the fact that Mohk was so invested in Day. Personally I saw Mohk being way above Days league - goodlooking strong greenflag character.
My takeaway: The writers PITIED Day because of his disability, so they made Mohk adore and love Day for no reason other then Day being blind.
I hope I come across more of your posts,
They made it like Mohk is ugly, uncharismatic, or so lacking that he should be grateful that he has Day. Its not like Day is a 10/10 and Mohk is a desperate 4/10..
It left me wondering what Mhok saw in Day - when his needs were not being met. Mhok is running around buying Day presents, giving 100% of himself but what does Day give back. It felt too much one sided. Day has a playmate that gives him affection.
I understand why Mohks psychology, experiences and trauma would make him get involved - but that is not what I am discussing here. As the show progressed, the characters became more superficial.
But irrespective we are willing to watch "moral failings" like violence but not something that titillates - for that we add an age restriction. I avoid violence /brutality in films for my mental hygiene (irrespective of the narrative), I am not negatively affected by films showing toxicity in relationships, unhappy endings, sexual content or nudity (i dont watch porn -that is a diff category).
I dont see the problem with "sexual" content inserted to titillate.
Korean dramas are becoming like the western dramas I got bored off.
Sometimes I come across something good (Mr Plankton, Secret Garden, etc) but for the most part they are becoming repetitive.
I dont want to be unkind towards a celebrity who has been harassed unfairly on many other issues (when I dont know the truth). But I feel for this victim who is powerless to get any justice if the allegations are true.
I enjoyed the concept, the actors etc but left unfinished.
Its getting so good that I regret starting the show before all the episodes are aired.
I dont know how Gaga does not know what is happening / being produced in the industry. This is a potential "product" so I dont buy that they are that clueless. (they may not have been approached )
I work as an analyst (in non media industry) and we keep tabs on what is happening in the industry and market, and what competitors are doing.
It does deserve higher rating - but I think most viewers want more action or boring "good" characters. They vote on the morals of the characters.
Me - I like the dialogue and game playing and cheating, and imperfect characters. Also like that it has adults rather than high school kids.
To be fair i enjoy the "being enemies" part more - find the interaction more amusing and interesting than when its just lovers being nice (and boring) each other. I find shows like My Stand-in so much more interesting with more dimensions.
I commented initially (against KSH) but now it serves no purpose to go over the same points. And in the end, it does not matter how much you comment here - it wont make a difference except affect peoples mental health and waste their time.
I have just finished Every You, Every me (so underrated) which had a concept that was so different from other dramas. I enjoyed the production, and performance by Top Piyawat /Mick - so I eagerly waiting .