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We are generalising. And there is nothing wrong with saying yaio is written for women, by women. Its enjoyed by many others but the target of bl is female.

100% agree with you. That is why we have a decline in the quality/substance of thai bls .

People rate for the cp /actors now so that is the focus - not the plot, not the script, not the acting, not the production. It sucks for all of us.

Im getting bored of most thai dramas produced by GMMtv - i find the obscure thai productions more interesting. I used to like thai dramas but the new and popular ones stick to a repeated formula nowdays - or just maybe the audience is younger, less sophisticated and it takes less to please them.

It deserves a higher rating, the acting, the story, the production are so much better than most bl.
What i like about it is that if feels like it has substance - unlike so many formulaic bls (pointing at gmmtv) .

I stumbled across this show by accident - its not that well known as are other bl thai GMMtv shows.
I always try and support shows that are not mainstream. Im glad I found it.

I have watched until ep3 and I am loving it.
The director and cameraman have done such a wonderful job of capturing the chemistry between the lead actors. Cast is good looking, and Ray is too pretty (as he is jealous) .

Another show that deserves attention and that is not well know is "Lost to You" from Singapore.
That story is so good, sad but uplifting. And the production and the acting are excellent. The camera work is gorgouse.
If you want something that has substance, and you are bored of the usual GMMtv fluff shows then you will probably enjoy it - especially if you like Taiwan or Chinese shows.

Another cute show that is not getting much attention is "Smile after Tears". Its cute and light.

i found it by accident because i was going through a friends watchlist. I added some of the shows they are watching. Otherwise I too would have been oblivious.

I would not have guessed its bl judging by the poster - but i do love the poster know that i know.

You are right. The poster is not going to attract the bl fans

This series is so underrated.
So many people are missing out on a great story and acting. The cinematography is good as well.
The drama is fast becoming my favourite that i am currently watching.

Ep3 was sad and beautiful.

People - please put a spoiler tag if you are revealing the plot

Im enjoying the slow pace and the situationship or relationship as it is developing.
So far (seen up to ep7) the focus of the drama has been more on the circumstances and issues (external and internal) they are each dealing with in their own lives. The romantic side of the relationship is not the focus here.

If you are a gmm bl fan that wants fluffy cute romance than this is probably not for you. Its also not for you if you are expecting a plot that entertains you with twists and complications like other love interests, legal battles, exciting dramatic things happening.

I am enjoying the experience, the mood its created.
One complaint or wish. They had a bit of a nc scene in episode 2 (where they are remembering the event ) and that was hot. It would have been nice to have a few more of those.

Could you please not spoil it for others.

but one of the most gorgeous

Some thoughts:
-they tackled difficult subjects - and its refreshing to see something not gmmtv formula driven
- the story was not bad, but i should have been 8 episodes, and better written
- Ja is being panned for his acting. I think Ja acted competently. His acting was subtle, and he was able to convey emotions well.
-I think Ja is hot, very hot
-i gave it an 8 because its not gmm tv
- @BraveAppointment1 (a few posts further down) commented about somebody dividing this series into Acts One, Two, and Three. I agree and also with other comments BraveAppointment1 made.

A bit off topic but its refreshing to see that the Japanese actors are not "whitened" like the actors in Korean, Thai, and Chinese dramas. I kind of find it sad that natural skin colour is not valued or appreciated in a lot of asian dramas.
Japanese actors are gorgeous but more natural looking as the "imperfections" (not fitting the mould) make them more unique looking . They have their own faces.

Dont get me wrong I really appreciate the work of the plastic surgeons but sometimes so many actors in the others look too similar as if they all ran to the same plastic surgeons.

i didnt find it explicit.
there is nudity but covered up

-lol not the ending i was expecting. It did say violence i guess
-i can understand why he went there - he gave up everything and lost everything. I dont think i could cross that line unless i was being directly threatened. I would want to do damage to the other party/ injure them but killing is extreme. It was also premeditated as not done in the heat of the moment.
-could you forgive your partner for that ...????

- I kind of liked the ending

A lot of people are calling it a bl. Its not, its a gay lgbt film. Its more realistic, its more gritty.
This explains why the ratings are so low - it did not please the gmm crowd

My thoughts
-beautiful, heart-breaking at moments
-actors were really good, they conveyed so much emotion
-its not as explicit like others are saying but everything is covered up
-cinematography is gorgeous

I absolutely agree with your interpretation. The ancient greeks has about 6/7 words for different types of love. This drama was not about romantic (eros) love - it may or may not have existed between them but it was not relevant or a focus. This story here was about pure unconditional /soul love (agapi / phillia) between two people.

The ambiguity about their relationship makes sense in this context. Makes it more interesting I think.

Netflix should not have put the lgbt tag.

thanks for explaining

I have also read some of the discussions, and your comments further up. One interesting explanation was that the drama lacked narrative coherence because Netflix may have decided to change/edit the original story and the final product that we got was different.

Or maybe this drama was about pure unconditional /soul love "agapi / phillia " between two people and the fleeting romantic love aspect was intentionally not meant to be a focus. It wasnt relevant for the story.
The tragedy here also kindoff served a purpose - the care/ sacrifice the other party made for the person they loved. Otherwise it would be easy to conclude tragedy = lgbt drama.


They should not have bothered with the lgbt tag.

S1 was toxic and messy and real
S2 was about childish drama over nothings and misunderstandings - and it was boring.

S2 regurgitated the gmmtv bl formula so they dont take risks in dramas -they are getting boring.

Its annoying that people have such low standards. It leads to bad quality as the- cp is the main criteria a drama is judged on.

Koreans are entitled to their opinions and the opinions vary. Some koreans are okay with the drama and its representation. Others may have issues and be extremely sensitive. I respect that.

But people are also entitled to have their opinions about how fiction should represent reality - should it be accurate. We are talking its about an imaginary world created in the author/writers mind, and they decide how to interpret that worlds reality, and the laws of nature it exists in.

Also we can have an opinion and make a judgment about how others react to something.
I dont know enough about the topic here to make a judgment but i always enjoy open debate, critism, and different opinions. And I dont like it when that is shut down.

knowing how a language is used can reveal so much.
thank you for clearing that up.
For international viewers (based on TRANSLATION) they left it ambiguous or rather didnt focus on the romantic relationship.

I wonder why???