Cruheart

Yup!

GH keeps on explaining away the issues in order to not worry her parents and family. However, things are escalating way too much and spreading out beyond her ability to control the narrative. She definitely is not in denial anymore. If she ever thought that there was a chance for a real relationship with MK and a real marriage, I think that she realizes that not going to happen. Now she is just trying to maintain appearances to the outside world (her co-workers and her family).

I had hoped that MK's anger outburst with GH just was a momentary lapse, but it appears this guy has some true control issues and as GySgt213 talked about he has a serious inferiority complex. His rage was not about being misunderstood regarding his relationship with JN ..His rage was that he thinks that GH is going to help DS ruin him! Wow!

It really is concerning to watch both MK and his mother do their best to subversively isolate GH, by trying to get her to quit work and guilt shaming her into not revealing anything that is happening to her -- to her family. GH is falling right in line. I know that GH thinks she is protecting her family, but actually she is hurting them, because despite her best efforts to hide everything, they are figuring out the truth and know that GH is just hiding things from them.

Absolutely agree about the health of the baby! Not only is there a risk to the life of the child via miscarriage, there are numerous possible health risk to the child if the child is carried to term. The child could have all sorts of neuro-developmental disorders, cognitive impairment, as well as social-emotional problems later on. There are a number of studies that show the immense impact that maternal stress can have on children during pregnancy. GH has stress in large quantities!!!!

DeepL is a translation app... I think that is much better than google translate.

Yeah I know what you mean about names.... Min-ki vs Min-gi is one of them. I have seen it both ways.. I just went with MK and just decided to stick with it¡

Yeah that is how it was translated in DeepL. Sorry about not checking better

February 11 KBS Trailer
Episode 88
Dan-soo begins to suspect that Chairman Hwang has an ulterior motive when he speaks negatively about Audrey. Meanwhile, Soo-yeon and Hong-dan struggle to win Noah's heart, while Myung-ja heads to Flower Mountain to meet Soon-i. Despite Myung-Ja's request, Kyung-Tae sets out to find Audrey without telling her...!

I agree I think she should have to earn it. She has done absolutely nothing but reject his feelings from the get go. She has been a better friend to him lately.. but i have felt like it has had a lot more due to her trying to help out his mom than really looking out for him. He still seems to be a whipped puppy when it comes to her. I really wish that he could actually be done with his feelings for her before she starts to approach him and then has to make her earn them. We will see how it goes...

I get that it is inappropriate... I don't think that there is anyone here that has said that it is appropriate. I am saying there is no reason that the fathers family has any right to punish that child by permanently taking away his right to see and have a relationship with his mother.

She has been the one that has raised him by herself to this point! These people have only been in this child's life for a month or so.... Unless there are imminent safety concerns with mom or she lacked all her protective capacities .. there is no reason to keep this child away from his mother. The fact that she realized that she was having a hard time raising the child and needed help would in itself be a demonstration of having protective capacity.

Is letting a child go live with with the other parent some sort of parental sin punnishable by stripping all parental rights? I get that she didnt handle it well .. she should have talked to the father first and come to an agreement. But where is the drama in that? This is a drama of course..

One thing thay is concerning about GH having a miscarriage is that it is going to absolutely devastate her. She is going to have quite a bit of time to get over that. If this is all part of the ending of her relationship with MK.. She is not going have much of a desire to jump right into another relationship. We only have 34 episodes left and the pacing of this drama has been super slow. So do we get an episode 120 proposal.

Yeah I have to give it to DS. Once he was out for sure, he bowed out graciously and returned to being her friend.. No snarky backhanded comments about MK. And even the time he had his head on her shoulders and and MK punched him. He realized what he was doing was not right and quickly apologized to MK and left - even when GH told DS to stay and MK to leave . That was outstanding

I am right with you on that! All indications seem to be ramping it up.She grabbed her stomach several times this last episode. When Min-Ki asked her if the baby might have been hurt during the accident.. she too quickly said that the doctor said the baby was ok. And her response to him was that her stomach felt heavy... I may be over thinking.. but I just thought that whole dialogue between them was peculiar... and then the follow up scenes with her grabbing her stomach .. and then saying to herself.. it will be ok. There just seems to be a lot there for a reason

I agree 100% with you about No-Ah's mother. She should absolutely have visitation rights! I have heard people say hundreds of times that this parent did this or that and they do not have a right to see their child. However, people need to look at it another way... Children absolutely have the right to see and visit their parents.

No-ah's mom is no saint and she may not feel like she can actually be the one to physically raise him & that is why she gave him up. Just because she does not feel she can raise him by herself does not mean she does not love him. She obviously does love him and does want to be a part of his life! You know, she should at least be commended that she gave him to his father and did not just abandon him (on the street). Think of the trauma that child would have suffered had that happened ...uh does Dan-soo come to mind?

There is absolute connection and draw to your biological parents that cannot be denied. I adopted my oldest son, and he has never met his biological father, however even as adult he still has the urge/desire to someday meet him. I have seen children raised in foster care pine for their bio parents, then be adopted, and then as soon as they turn 18 go right back to their biological families. It happens way more than people think it does!

G-ma and family are basically acting out of fear now. After their initial reluctance to accept No-ah, they have become attached to the cute little guy and do not want to loose him! So just like any good drama, they have to go way overboard in how they think they need to protect him!

mjcsfla1 this is actually one of my soap box things... so yeah I am paying attention to it pretty closely. I will be happy to continue to touch on it and discuss it with you if you want :)

I agree with you! I am amazed at how much power some of these parents/in-laws have over their children/ children's spouses in these dramas. There is a definite line between expectation of children being filial and being abusive towards them. Dramas seem to cross that line quite often.

I really think GH's mom is going to come to the rescue. She is about fed up with with MK's mom. She has never liked her and was not really in support of this marriage until GH's dad convinced her to. However, there have been a number of scenes in which both mom and dad hear about how much GH is suffering in her marriage. You see her mom backtracking and you get close-ups of dad looking guilty and ashamed. So I have high hopes that when it comes time, her parents will be on her side and help her. Mom told GH before she agreed to marry MK that she would help GH raise the baby alone if that is what she wanted to do.

I have been waiting for JN to finally pull some garbage and she is not disappointing me. She hates GH so much and has hated her from the star. I was super surprised that she was so passive (for an evil 2L) with GH early on when she found out about MK's baby. But she is starting to earn her keep now.. She absolutely does not want to lose to GH and as a by-product, she would like to get her man back.. But make no mistake about it her primary motivation is to destroy GH!

Also the stomach/baby pains are becoming for frequent and noticeable.......

I do have to say that I really like the fact that the writer has chosen to steer away from a GH & DS love triangle as being a contributing factor to the downfall of MK & GH's marriage (so far). I like idea that if and when this marriage collapses it will be due to due GH and MK and how they failed to handle their relationship with each other well. Of course there is always that possible impending MK & JN affair hanging out there like a rain cloud.

Excellent take!
This is also something that JN is aware of (She talked to MK about this very thing a few episodes back) and she is using it to her full advantage. JN knows how to manipulate people - thus her trip to MK's house to talk to his mom (to keep her firmly on JN's side - against GH).

How about that scene between GH and MK at the end of the episode 87 preview. MK was furious and was slamming down his jacket. I have never seen him that out of control with GH. As much as I really do not want to like MK, I have to say that he has always been pretty patient and kind with GH. He has mostly treated her with respect and has even been encouraging to her. It has been a good sunbae and hoobae relationship.

These last couple of episodes we are seeing the pressure that JN has been applying to their relationship start to shake them. GH is becoming way more resolved to not let JN see her waver, while in her heart and mind, she is slowly coming to the conclusion that this marriage is probably doomed. She is starting to shut down and become reserved in front of them.

MK on the other hand has tried to be what he thinks a good husband should be - which is basically a good provider. I believe he has tried to keep his relationship with JN professional - even in the face of all of JN's efforts to undermine that. We have to remember that JN is MK's great love. I think that given that, he really has done a good job resisting JN. (FYI: I do not think that MK actually slept with JN the night before his wedding to GH). However, (due to work), he continues to allow himself to be put in situations with JN, that appear compromising and questionable. MY take is "If you don't want to get bit by the dog at the end of the alley, then don't go down the alley in the first place" . MK keeps going down the alley!!!

Now that GH is confronting him about JN, and asking questions he is starting to resort to tactics used by people with no good answer --- and that is gaslighting and diversion (the screaming and blaming). This definitely is not a sign of a healthy relationship.

We truly are watching the progressive destruction of a marriage/relationship. - and it is actually very realistic. So I do have to give the writer credit here.

Well I guess it was not widely known at work that they were dating. I remember in one episode JN was going to give everyone wedding invitations at one time but MK stopped her from doing it.

Episode 87 Preview
After Audrey's sudden departure, Kyung-Tae visits Dan-Soo and promises to find her himself. At work, Gina's inability to let go of Min-ki leads to the revelation that Min-ki and Gina were in a relationship before they were married...!

same here!

You can't make this stuff up......wait.....I guess you can.