I will never understand you people. I read and loved the drama but after watching what they did it overall made…
Did i ever mentioned you attk anyone? Weird too right you came to that conclusion, I just mentioned you took one point out of so many to tackle and focus on that one while disregarding the other because you lack the ability to understand. The question that is truly ask is why people sympathies with SY more than WYF.
if we are are really putting real life. We learn to empathies and research its easy just search up the topic and…
1st point :- Did I say I do not empathies with SY. I do too. That said In this case in the relationship in their context. Who really needs help? Its WYF. So in comparing both hurt of course I would understand why WYF did what she did. To SY as long WYF never leave his side he would be all good he still can have logical thinking and nothing would cloud his judgement.
Also in SY case its not brushed aside its just not really that big of a deal in the context of them two SY still got his whole buddy system and his work. One have to survive bsc she made the wrong choice due to her not mentally able to take it and another still get to live life with a loving family and friends.
As for therapy, is it not up to him but he who is more normal and the friend around her who is more normal should help out no? You expect a person who on survival mood to think "I will go seek therapy" out of the blue?. Is the connection we have to help me push us up to want to take that step and she took a bit of that step and as soon she was happy in the moment her uncle came back into play.
2nd:- Your logical is wrong SO ALL ADULT need to know their own issue then what is call PTSD? If not there is no need of people suicide because of pressure and builled online right? Because they are adult? The same word was spoken to the HR of Yihe news by Sang Yan. When she said the exact same thing almost same. SY replied was "IF that person that gone through all that is your daughter will you say the same word". For example, Would you ask your daughters to grow up its only harassments and you shoud know better to protect yourself since you an adult?
3rd :- Back to the same point her action was not right but to her is was the right thing. Will she realise her wrong I think she will in the end in future EP as seen from the will open up to him fully that we will see but in that moment you would think her response is if that person is disturbing my love one because of me If i leave that person will not disturb them. It was what worked before they never disturb her and to her it will work too. That said all this goes back to one thing Communication which they both lack. BOTH not one or another. They do think they think are right and what not but never really talk about wht they truly feel. I feel this will be handle in coming ep that is my hope at least.
4th This I agree but also disagree. You cant place SY and WYF pain in the same way right? Its like If you fell down and hit your legs and head with excessive bleeding in the head and a cut on the knee. In any emergency situation is the to treat the more heavy one first right? Does it mean we neglect the knee NO. It will be treated once the head is treated too right?
In which his pain is directly because how he felt for WYF that 6 years apart and once they got tgt that part of pain was totally heal and he look forward bsc he is more normal and did not go through anything rough and the 2nd one is not really because of the leaving itself but how he in his own way never understood her. Its all in correlation with her right. So of course we must deal with the heavier issue then then he will eventually be treated too. If that make sense.
I agree that ". It just means they acknowledge that pain doesn’t justify hurting other." That said if you use logic to judge a person who is really mentally ill deep down broken comparing to a heartbreak while everything is rosy in life is that really the correct? You expect the broken one to know they are broken and have the courage to step out of that brokenness themselves in short month? While some study do indicate that but more often than not alot people is silence about it even through their old times. Hence why its ptsd call a mental ill. If that person can be logical in their action that is not ptsd.
Another example IF WYF was having normal life and choose leave and then because her work got some pressure she leave again then of course ITS more dumb than now right. That time no one would ever take her side right? She had a good life and she choose to be that way so in that time her action would seem bratty. Its all about situation no?
That said its not...While we can all say how sad SY is in this context is no where near how WYF life is right?. You can blame her not knowing how to appreciate SY after the few month they are together even thou she regretted all of the past but you can seriously be thinking SY heartbroken was more pitiful than WYF life right? That is where part of understanding comes from no? We understand they are both hurt not to neglect any if I did in this long essay is my fault, I wont QC proof read my essays online especially here. WYF hurt should be more taken care off right rather than SY's. Back to the above example like if the knee is taken care first with one doctor in charge then that person will die already. no ?
Well I am not typing all this anymore my point ....by understanding both we should also know which is more severe and needed more help than the other. its not about neglecting the other party but its also corelated to the broken person. People do dumb shit and makes so many mistakes when they are normal also can be forgiven (ie the uncle) why no one pushing the blame all on him just merely stating he is bad move on??. So why is the comment seem like expecting a broken person to be normal when obviously they are not mentally?.
I will never understand you people. I read and loved the drama but after watching what they did it overall made…
You can have your opinion but to me is weird that you can sympathizes with SY while not WYF hahaha.
Although I am obsess with this drama my emotion are okay just weird out by why people who sympathies with SY more than WYF just because the man have his life tailored toward her bsc he have the luxury to do so. While her whole teen life and adult hood some of them are just living by her own so the moment she does something that is logically wrong then its wrong. I just don't get that.
As I feel in this sense everyone just see how sad SY face is in the drama bsc action so good and everyone just swoon over him bsc they cant get him?. Is my question.
So its just weird how hard is it to see this point? haha
All those comments saying, Do you know how much trauma an SA victim has to handle? How much PTSD they might have?—and…
if we are are really putting real life.
We learn to empathies and research its easy just search up the topic and read papers and research.
It's Like how SY did empathies with her and hence why he went to the lengths to dig her past up you all wanted SY life and what not but do you actually know for SY this leave brought is for him to also understand her, he follow her through her life but never really understand her.
He himself lived a very good life hence he has the luxury of doing so. he never need to worry about family. He can do whatever he want his family still supports him. He was brought up well. That said when he was following her around if he was not a handsome person or looks good would he be that swoon upon? is my question.
Rather than blaming directly and making SY looks like a god. Why not we pull back and think, He know she is sleeping walking why never really push her to see doctor? After they are together he know she cries a lot and sleep walk. Why have he not initiate a topic on that and seek therapy. Rather than why she never tell him only? Why cant he initiate it since he know she is having trouble expressing it
Also as far as I read no one ever said it was the "right" thing for her to do in any logic and normal brain function world leaving a trouble or suicide those type of thing is never right. That said in this context, TO HER it was the right thing. In her mind she think leaving will solve the issue of the uncle making a mess of SY life. Its all IN HER MIND. She want SY to have the best and she is not the best. Her mess is not the best.
You don't need to go through it fully to have some empathy in life. Its about understanding and communication. In which this two love birds clearly don't have which is normal. Living a life like hers she also held in so long and him also never really say what he want to keep face and bsc he is just like that its normal. My GF and I till now have communication issue but we try to understand each other and its not a month thing and our issue no where near WYF facing I wont even dare lol. That said have some human EQ to understand that everyone has different walk of life and dont push you life agenda to others. That said we can always try to understand other.
They changed the main plot—a mistake, a colossal mistake. There was a reason the book was a success. That's…
I will never understand you people.
I read and loved the drama but after watching what they did it overall made so much more sense. Rather than a typical romantic love trumps all story. This give us so much more insight on her life rather than being told by her. SY got context of her life much more better before even being told. How trauma ACTUALLY works. The level of acting from the FML to protray how traumatic she feel.
Adaptation is not a 1:1 product. I love the novel version and this I also love it two. Different taste but this is much more darker.
You never watch it then you come and comment on it. What is the point?. Watch it and maybe give your own how you dislike thing here and there.
I never understood the level of support for SY that guy lived a life full of happiness and was filled with joy. In reality anyone with that kinda life is just a guy with so much free time on his hand. No need worry about parents, sister also dont have to worry, do his own thing, do what he like to do which is just chasing a lady around. So tell me what so deserving? You tell me? He is patience only to her. yeah he did alot thing to be with her but did he really understand her situation no. Why you never say when she see how she got scolded at home he never step in and stayed out? You would say its respecting boundary right? So noble of him. After realising she has sleep walk and crying in her sleep walk, why he never ask her seek therapy? Ohh bsc she never say no need pry even when they are tgt or ohh bsc its China dont believe this stuff? So is her JOB to tell him. So its her fault then.
On the other hand WYF, father past away, mother left her with grandma, grandma died, stayed with aunt that berate her and have uncle that constantly try to touch her. Beg for help never happen, reported police got reprimanded. Left the whole place, She still studied hard and got into university and graduated, thought she had the job in the end back talk by the whole co and the boss interested in her too that why she got in got harrassed again. Left the....so tell me all her life is just survival instinct never depend on anything for years. Got in love thinking she can finally be loved in that few month of dating suddenly she can change her whole years of survival? Like even the thought of leaving is because the Uncle disturbed SY bar. So wherever she go her uncle will stalk her and trouble her love once. So its her fault then? Ohh ya because she never communication got it. years of being alone and just living yeah she found love and the guy so sweet to her so caring she can communicate with him already she must tell him everything in few month oh yes.
totally WYF fault man.. wow. Poor SY. LOL. I am a guy I also think SY that character is a tad bit BS. Like be real here maybe not me but I wish I had so many free time, good family, friends and I can just do whatever the heck I wont no one would say me at all LOL. Just because ohh poor him having so many time and spending extra money go Yihe always and see her owhh look at all the effort. If he was ugly then he is lable a stalker not caring person LOL.
I love SY he is the sweetest and only person here to WYF but the hate for WYF is so weird and actually if its not drama what SY did was bsc he have a very good life.
yeah but running away isnt fighting back is it? w that logic, the only people she fought are sang yan and si qiao.the…
Love can fight you meant to say this? when is obviously a sarcastic remark same with all the remark below that sentence.
I never said she was fighting back like the lady need to fight back, what i was saying everyone expect, love to fight all and can even cure cancer and A lady to be strong must fight back and always push back rather than this version where she is strong but not fighting back kinda strong her strong is her will to live on.
its my fault i never understand that you cant read maybe hence the lack of comprehension. I apologiese.
My 10 drop to 9... i hate this shits6 months later.. another trash cliche..In the novel was all better
When the "cliche" and choice is more reasonable than "I love the person he is my safe place, my therapy, my life will be all cleared with her".
I am sad its not adapted well its so sweet and so lovely argue argue she know how she misses him. in any case in here considering the following two ep she will also realised she wrong.. That said in any sense few month in love does not change years of trouble and hidden stress and pressure and habits.
Adaptation does not mean 100%. As long as the author never commented on it I wont say anything bad and as long it make sense bsc its not a 1:1 copy its just adapting.
The only part is MCY going up to their house which totally does not make any form or sense.
yeah but running away isnt fighting back is it? w that logic, the only people she fought are sang yan and si qiao.the…
To WYF after the bar got reported she choose to run after that. As the only thing she thought of that time was if she go away SY won't get bothered and hurt.
Healing does not mean fighting back no one is fighting anything. She was healing we all saw that and stood up for SY not for herself but SY, from all the sweet EP, she ignore the uncle msg and all but the uncle still found her and made trouble not for her but SY.
So for her who think hurting SY is bad and SY deserve the best thing her only response was leaving. If she left SY wont be trouble its a simple solution as she fears her uncle and what he will do to SY.
This time it was never about herself running away she just have a very wrong way of thinking but I dont blame her. The moment she start enjoying life in that few month tgt with SY uncle came back and trouble not only her but SY. Even SY knew this that why he went into psyco mood and dig up her past. He know she did not leave her like last time. He know she loved him so this time he finally took the step to uncover her past. In here I can understand why she did not suddenly become brave. Few month of happiness wont change after years of thinking how underserving. That is more realistic rather than after I found love everything is love and can heal quickly no?.
He decision to safeguard her guy is wrong but bsc she know her uncle is capable of anything and reporting does not work she just choose to leave herself. Never right choice but to her its the only choice she saw and for her it make sense.
If you are upset bsc deviate from the novel yeah sure where she told him everything and was brave. I am too. That said blaming WYF for her choice is so dumb.
The charm of Zhu Yi's stories are that there is no eminent break up. The chase ends with something that develops…
While I love the novel very much, Its sad its changed. Which show all the good qualities of SY and a very perfect relationship. Love beats all its very good. I am very sad they did change that. Also in any thing the novel is also flawed in some way of course its so lovely and awesome and I would love and hated how they change the direction, that said take yourself out of the novel and think drama.
What so wrong about her action?
"people with trauma almost always seek for such a place - a place which feels warm, secure, safe"
While its true, people with PTSD also tend to avoid and not trust anyone and think of themselves as underserving of love any any form of affection. She after grandma died, live in the worst condition not receiving good thing and told that she is underserving, no one backing her in that life for SO many years. In the drama timeline they got together fore merely few month. So In this few month in which helped her she open up about her family and her job. The moment she thought life can be enjoyed and in herself she keep doubting and saying sorry to SY about everything proving how insecure she actually is and is really opening up. Then the bar scene happen only then she really broke thinking if she stayed uncle will keep disturbing him and make it worst. She feel back into the cocoon of thinking she is underserving in which its very realistic. SY never knew her full story nor did she ever tell he did shower her with love and she also in turn love him back and open up to him.
They took a different approach but in my eye really more realistic. The Novel made it so once you found a safe place even after so many years of habit can be change in mere month. The moment she start thinking she can enjoy life it goes away with the uncle. Of course she would not be brave still she just crawl up and not fully and the hook came right back and when she dodge it the hook hit the person she love most. Its a very normal response anyone would have to blame herself again and again.
So while I love the novel. If you just think drama it make so much more sense. People also love blaming and now almost everyone blame her decision in which I think its absolutely normal. She was never healed she just got better bsc of SY and when she start having future thinking life with SY then comes the catch.
After today I can safely say....everyone here most of the people here never understand trauma. Hahahaha. That why i feel this type EP shows who people really are. I think its very smart or dumb(deviating from the plot of the novel) and made this two EP because holy hell. The amount of people having no empathy and just bias one point view and only viewing the FL as weak bsc she ran away and blaming her like her mother, aunt, the HR, the director did hahaha. Its so funny really. That why i said this two EP is like a social experiment hahaha
Love can fight everything and even cure cancer :).
A lady to be strong must fight back and always push back.
A guy with a perfect life is sad bsc he is chasing a broken lady. HAHA
To all commenters below we are not undermining Wen Yi Fan ofcourse continuous SA will really have a huge blow…
Is that her choice? The moment she want to enjoy life her uncle came back in do you even do your research on PTSD?
Love does not help and in LOGICAL sense does communication solve a lot issue YES it does but is it hard for her ? YES.
THE " I WILL not hurt SY again" Until his bar got reported she directly pull that issue is BECAUSE OF HER. She ignore the call and picture sent from the uncle, got bullied outside of work she still ignore all that. She never feel danger BSC OF herself she RAN AWAY bsc TO HER ONLY WAY SY will not be disturb IS HER LEAVING. The more she stays THE MORE the guy will trouble SY. To her and SHE ALSO SAID THIS HE ONLY DESERVER THE BEST.
SHE NEVER ONCE THOUGHT SHE WAS THE BEST. Constantly thinking is she deserving of the life she have friend and SY. HER only ISSUE IS COMMUNICATION.
IN fact Rather then BLAMING HER. WHY SY AFTER her crying SO MANY TIME and ALL never seek professional help for her In therapy ?! OR Realised all this is a sign sooner and do some digging himself rather than people leave only start? OWHH You all will SAY HE IS PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IF SHE NEVER TELL BETTER NOT TO PRY!.
Are you hearing what you all are saying? You are totally underminding what is means to have PTSD in WYF eyes AVOIDing IS BEST FOR EVERYONE she love. as she believe in no justice SHE TRIED THAT and GOT REPRIMANDED FOR IT
This is my first time saying something negative about this drama, but ep 24 was so unnecessary, wyf could never…
Pull yourself out from the novel think in drama and logic.
Lady been alone for 6-7 years enduring all this.
Yes she came back found the love of her life become a very sweet couple for not over 3/4month, open up to him about almost all aspect of her life. The moment she think she can enjoy life, uncle came back make trouble to SY bar was her final straw. Uncle finding her family finding her she ignore all that. Only thing that broke her was when uncle went to report SY bar.
In the novel they focus on their love and how love defeats all so sweet and lovely I would love to see that happen to. Do you think that is really realistic? I dont see the wrong in what she did.
All the thing they been through is only few month. Is really nothing they were SO happy those few month what thing they been through tgt? SY did not know about her life and SY life was perfect with her in it. So what exactly have they as a couple been through?.
The reason this is bullshit and getting called out for it is because for the last 10 episodes the show has been…
Yi Fan start enjoying life thinking she can too enjoy life finally > > uncle came back who you've seen EP 25 you know what happen she never told even opening up to SY never once told him and always panic when she see him so its just "an obstacle".
Oh right she still think she is undeserving right we got that part right?.
oh wait did we also get the part where she said she wil not hurt SY and he ONLY deserver THE BEST THING in life. Did she think she is THE BEST?. NO.
Oh right she ignore her uncle text and bully outside of her job place still never ran this point still never face the family.
The only time she brave up to face her family bsc SY bar was reported.
Oh wait do you think her feeling so unworthy ady and suddenly even SY also got into trouble bsc of her finally she broke?
Where she think BSC SY deserve better her trouble will only bring SY trouble and it did hence why it happen?
Like I agree the NOVEL is GOOD changing the plot is so nonsense i sure will stand with the author but is the novel 100% correct? its an adapatation and I feel they just dig deeper into WYF own personal insecurities and people cannot accept that.
All leads must go through thing together have good communication skill and happy family only think of each other bsc love is SO great it conquer all.
i'm not good with words so please bear with me...i get why people are mad or have mixed feeling about WYF choice,…
My take on people only backing SY did not really know SY too.
First time she leave SY was in doubt weather she love him or not and what happen to her. Think he is just a 2nd guy or a spare tyre.
This time, they did not give WYF the "braveness" everyone so wanted from a character and the novel facing the truth after finding love, love save all.
Instead deviate and from the story which is not good from director/writer to do in case the author dislike it I will sure support the author. That said as romantic as it is the writer finding love = become so mentally strong when she was not we can see that through even when they are dating, doubting herself and thinking weather she deserve it and constantly apologising that is not a sign of a brave person. she is very insecure. I know that bsc I apologise LIKE ALL THE TIME but its very bad thing to do
for SY is totally different. This time SY knows she love her and knows she left not bsc of breaking up. HE knows that there is something wrong as after she came back that day he also felt different already and all the sleep walking and crying. So he knows hence why he took action to dig deeper on what really happen to WYF why she is like that.
Even she said when she fall catch her and HE will. Knowing that a lady love you but have other reason will only prompt the guy to take aggressive action which he did. That said no one ever mention this.
This leave and the previous leave is SO different in the context of the drama only.
As an adult, FL should have faced her family problems head-on. This time, ML should solve her problems and leave…
You are just like the HR hahaha. Its funny really.
She given up on everyone thinking she is so underserving and just live her life on her own accord because everyone judge her. until SY came back in told him alot actually like ALOT but do people change overnight NO.
Her mother left her, aunt never give her anything nice, Uncle harassed her, she fell out the window and injured herself took a police to care for her instead of her family. The call with the mother when she asked for help in the end she is the trouble. Reported police and in the end she got blamed by everyone again.
Where was SY that time ? SO he stalk her passionately then its so SAD for SY.
to understand the show tells you she always think SY deserver only the best and she never thought of herself the BEST. The moment she enjoys her life than Family came in picture again and Uncle came back again. She ignore it all then Uncle disturb her NVM. She endure again. Then Uncle did something bad the the bar and false reported it. Only then she stood up and face her family. So in this time for her of course she will leave. Her leaving will ensure that guy she love only guy won't get disturb again.
Its always easy to blame the weaker mentally person we all love to see drama with a strong mental lady or guy how strong and this strong person show weakness how sad.
Never think about that the weaker once exist in this world. LOL very funny your statement.
AT least that why SY will never exist because SY knows all this and this time he never blames her and choose to uncover thing himself to understand her life and not be passive anymore.
Wen Yifan in the drama is more realistic than Wen Yifan in the novel
I mean as how they potray her in drama yes. No one can change their attitude or habits after so many years overnight. Idk what to say about it but people will never get it and in this context if the drama is only for the drama and not following the novel it make so much more sense.
personally, I’m not mad AT her, I’m mad at the director for doing this to WYF’s character development. Changing…
I love the novel too but i see the drama as the drama itself, I mean if the author has an issue with it then the author can voice out her opinion. I sure support the author over the director too bsc its her work but does it mean her work is 100% make sense NO. Its all fictional and thing can change.
That said its not 50/50 at all she at this point never face her own issue head on too. Yes she knows SY love her already and SY now knows she love him too not of any other stupid reason. I don't know about how you view thing maybe very different from mine. Like it she told him everything about her life beside this part that is shown haunting her. EP 25 also shows why she is so haunted by this part of her life. Everytime she saw that guy she will have a mini panic attk and she was so brave enough to stand up for SY after knowing his bar is closed for inspection. Not for herself is for SY.
She also said SY deserve only the best thing = her gone = best thing as she see herself an very dirty. It make more sense than suddenly becoming brave when she is always burden by it no?
You live your life 5-6/7 years apart alone and bearing everything. YES you love SY and hence why she moved back and got together and SY did really help shine a lot of light in her life to a point she TOLD HIM alot of thing she would NEVER tell anyone.
This is just a person becoming strong directly journey when they find love is about personal struggle - she will like in the novel found out everything SY did for her and become even more guilty which will make her love him more but that time is almost the end
IMO i can see why there is this changes and Honestly, I dont mind the hate i am used to having diff opinion bsc I can understand more thing. I feel this change is good. Rather than they argued > SY go Yihe > Punch DJX > feeling guilty WYF > Find SY >All is happy happy.
This shows you how she have never come to term with her this part of life and that why front scene where she meet the uncle she will always have a panic attk kinda thing and also shows you how easy to blame everything on the person who leave.
I also see people not happy with the changes and saying "she hurt SY again" rather than telling him after all his love and rather than reporting the uncle although they change it I think it does make sense in drama context with the bar and all. Be it change to the novel unfortunately which I really love too.
What can she do about that? EP 25 shows that reporting is useless? What else can she do? Harassment does not = jail time no prove nth and when no one got your back on it too. Yeah they did not follow the novel for this which is unfortunate.
That said I feel like this is part of a social experiment in MDL , like if you are angry on EP 24 she left you are part of the problem like the HR personnel when SY was talking to her. EP 25 shows you why she never dare to face them all and also she still think she is a burden especially when the bar was disturbed of course she blames herself. So instead of saying she hurt "SY" which she did again its more like since adult its time for SY to knows the truth and dig deeper. Like being passive is good and all but I think as a guy when she is your GF already and especially now and shown in the show he finally start digging instead of being there for her. He strt digging and more he realise he actually also knows nothing. Which is what I think is a good change to me. She will continue to be very very passive and avoid everyone as she think she is just a BIG burden to anyone close.
Of course what she did was logically wrong of and did make NO sense . That said not everyone in this world is a good communicator and see the shitty family never even helped her once and no one cared for her and a police lady was the one that helped her!.
Same with most the comments now. Its very funny to see honestly. Everyone is acting like what the HR persn did. "Young people cant handle pressure and just choose to run or complain etc etc". I listen to this word so many times in my life too.
Honestly although they change the plot here. I feel its quite nice additional. It just prove again she is not one to face trouble and always think she is a burden to everyone. As SY did not told her about the restaurant she also did not tell him about confronting the family.
I can see why people are upset but I think its done pretty well this two EP....ONE thing is her action. I wanna kill the whole family if I am able to enter the screen SCREWED up family. What really got me is when she call her mother begging her to bring her back so tough to watch. The mother response was even SICKNING !!!. How they all went to blame mode when she called the cops and no one cared about her injuries at all. That family i wanna kill them myself.
All and all yeah they change it. That said I really think its nice maybe its only me and also she get to go back to ballet again soon which is another part of her life soon.
Also in SY case its not brushed aside its just not really that big of a deal in the context of them two SY still got his whole buddy system and his work. One have to survive bsc she made the wrong choice due to her not mentally able to take it and another still get to live life with a loving family and friends.
As for therapy, is it not up to him but he who is more normal and the friend around her who is more normal should help out no? You expect a person who on survival mood to think "I will go seek therapy" out of the blue?. Is the connection we have to help me push us up to want to take that step and she took a bit of that step and as soon she was happy in the moment her uncle came back into play.
2nd:- Your logical is wrong SO ALL ADULT need to know their own issue then what is call PTSD? If not there is no need of people suicide because of pressure and builled online right? Because they are adult? The same word was spoken to the HR of Yihe news by Sang Yan. When she said the exact same thing almost same. SY replied was "IF that person that gone through all that is your daughter will you say the same word". For example, Would you ask your daughters to grow up its only harassments and you shoud know better to protect yourself since you an adult?
3rd :- Back to the same point her action was not right but to her is was the right thing. Will she realise her wrong I think she will in the end in future EP as seen from the will open up to him fully that we will see but in that moment you would think her response is if that person is disturbing my love one because of me If i leave that person will not disturb them. It was what worked before they never disturb her and to her it will work too. That said all this goes back to one thing Communication which they both lack. BOTH not one or another. They do think they think are right and what not but never really talk about wht they truly feel. I feel this will be handle in coming ep that is my hope at least.
4th This I agree but also disagree. You cant place SY and WYF pain in the same way right? Its like If you fell down and hit your legs and head with excessive bleeding in the head and a cut on the knee. In any emergency situation is the to treat the more heavy one first right? Does it mean we neglect the knee NO. It will be treated once the head is treated too right?
In which his pain is directly because how he felt for WYF that 6 years apart and once they got tgt that part of pain was totally heal and he look forward bsc he is more normal and did not go through anything rough and the 2nd one is not really because of the leaving itself but how he in his own way never understood her. Its all in correlation with her right. So of course we must deal with the heavier issue then then he will eventually be treated too. If that make sense.
I agree that ". It just means they acknowledge that pain doesn’t justify hurting other." That said if you use logic to judge a person who is really mentally ill deep down broken comparing to a heartbreak while everything is rosy in life is that really the correct? You expect the broken one to know they are broken and have the courage to step out of that brokenness themselves in short month? While some study do indicate that but more often than not alot people is silence about it even through their old times. Hence why its ptsd call a mental ill. If that person can be logical in their action that is not ptsd.
Another example IF WYF was having normal life and choose leave and then because her work got some pressure she leave again then of course ITS more dumb than now right. That time no one would ever take her side right? She had a good life and she choose to be that way so in that time her action would seem bratty. Its all about situation no?
That said its not...While we can all say how sad SY is in this context is no where near how WYF life is right?. You can blame her not knowing how to appreciate SY after the few month they are together even thou she regretted all of the past but you can seriously be thinking SY heartbroken was more pitiful than WYF life right? That is where part of understanding comes from no? We understand they are both hurt not to neglect any if I did in this long essay is my fault, I wont QC proof read my essays online especially here. WYF hurt should be more taken care off right rather than SY's. Back to the above example like if the knee is taken care first with one doctor in charge then that person will die already. no ?
Well I am not typing all this anymore my point ....by understanding both we should also know which is more severe and needed more help than the other. its not about neglecting the other party but its also corelated to the broken person. People do dumb shit and makes so many mistakes when they are normal also can be forgiven (ie the uncle) why no one pushing the blame all on him just merely stating he is bad move on??. So why is the comment seem like expecting a broken person to be normal when obviously they are not mentally?.
Although I am obsess with this drama my emotion are okay just weird out by why people who sympathies with SY more than WYF just because the man have his life tailored toward her bsc he have the luxury to do so. While her whole teen life and adult hood some of them are just living by her own so the moment she does something that is logically wrong then its wrong. I just don't get that.
As I feel in this sense everyone just see how sad SY face is in the drama bsc action so good and everyone just swoon over him bsc they cant get him?. Is my question.
So its just weird how hard is it to see this point? haha
We learn to empathies and research its easy just search up the topic and read papers and research.
It's Like how SY did empathies with her and hence why he went to the lengths to dig her past up you all wanted SY life and what not but do you actually know for SY this leave brought is for him to also understand her, he follow her through her life but never really understand her.
He himself lived a very good life hence he has the luxury of doing so. he never need to worry about family. He can do whatever he want his family still supports him. He was brought up well. That said when he was following her around if he was not a handsome person or looks good would he be that swoon upon? is my question.
Rather than blaming directly and making SY looks like a god. Why not we pull back and think, He know she is sleeping walking why never really push her to see doctor? After they are together he know she cries a lot and sleep walk. Why have he not initiate a topic on that and seek therapy. Rather than why she never tell him only? Why cant he initiate it since he know she is having trouble expressing it
Also as far as I read no one ever said it was the "right" thing for her to do in any logic and normal brain function world leaving a trouble or suicide those type of thing is never right. That said in this context, TO HER it was the right thing. In her mind she think leaving will solve the issue of the uncle making a mess of SY life. Its all IN HER MIND. She want SY to have the best and she is not the best. Her mess is not the best.
You don't need to go through it fully to have some empathy in life. Its about understanding and communication. In which this two love birds clearly don't have which is normal. Living a life like hers she also held in so long and him also never really say what he want to keep face and bsc he is just like that its normal. My GF and I till now have communication issue but we try to understand each other and its not a month thing and our issue no where near WYF facing I wont even dare lol. That said have some human EQ to understand that everyone has different walk of life and dont push you life agenda to others. That said we can always try to understand other.
I read and loved the drama but after watching what they did it overall made so much more sense. Rather than a typical romantic love trumps all story. This give us so much more insight on her life rather than being told by her. SY got context of her life much more better before even being told. How trauma ACTUALLY works. The level of acting from the FML to protray how traumatic she feel.
Adaptation is not a 1:1 product. I love the novel version and this I also love it two. Different taste but this is much more darker.
You never watch it then you come and comment on it. What is the point?. Watch it and maybe give your own how you dislike thing here and there.
I never understood the level of support for SY that guy lived a life full of happiness and was filled with joy. In reality anyone with that kinda life is just a guy with so much free time on his hand. No need worry about parents, sister also dont have to worry, do his own thing, do what he like to do which is just chasing a lady around. So tell me what so deserving? You tell me? He is patience only to her. yeah he did alot thing to be with her but did he really understand her situation no. Why you never say when she see how she got scolded at home he never step in and stayed out? You would say its respecting boundary right? So noble of him. After realising she has sleep walk and crying in her sleep walk, why he never ask her seek therapy? Ohh bsc she never say no need pry even when they are tgt or ohh bsc its China dont believe this stuff? So is her JOB to tell him. So its her fault then.
On the other hand WYF, father past away, mother left her with grandma, grandma died, stayed with aunt that berate her and have uncle that constantly try to touch her. Beg for help never happen, reported police got reprimanded. Left the whole place, She still studied hard and got into university and graduated, thought she had the job in the end back talk by the whole co and the boss interested in her too that why she got in got harrassed again. Left the....so tell me all her life is just survival instinct never depend on anything for years. Got in love thinking she can finally be loved in that few month of dating suddenly she can change her whole years of survival? Like even the thought of leaving is because the Uncle disturbed SY bar. So wherever she go her uncle will stalk her and trouble her love once. So its her fault then? Ohh ya because she never communication got it. years of being alone and just living yeah she found love and the guy so sweet to her so caring she can communicate with him already she must tell him everything in few month oh yes.
totally WYF fault man.. wow. Poor SY. LOL. I am a guy I also think SY that character is a tad bit BS. Like be real here maybe not me but I wish I had so many free time, good family, friends and I can just do whatever the heck I wont no one would say me at all LOL. Just because ohh poor him having so many time and spending extra money go Yihe always and see her owhh look at all the effort. If he was ugly then he is lable a stalker not caring person LOL.
I love SY he is the sweetest and only person here to WYF but the hate for WYF is so weird and actually if its not drama what SY did was bsc he have a very good life.
I never said she was fighting back like the lady need to fight back, what i was saying everyone expect, love to fight all and can even cure cancer and A lady to be strong must fight back and always push back rather than this version where she is strong but not fighting back kinda strong her strong is her will to live on.
its my fault i never understand that you cant read maybe hence the lack of comprehension. I apologiese.
I am sad its not adapted well its so sweet and so lovely argue argue she know how she misses him. in any case in here considering the following two ep she will also realised she wrong.. That said in any sense few month in love does not change years of trouble and hidden stress and pressure and habits.
Adaptation does not mean 100%. As long as the author never commented on it I wont say anything bad and as long it make sense bsc its not a 1:1 copy its just adapting.
The only part is MCY going up to their house which totally does not make any form or sense.
Healing does not mean fighting back no one is fighting anything. She was healing we all saw that and stood up for SY not for herself but SY, from all the sweet EP, she ignore the uncle msg and all but the uncle still found her and made trouble not for her but SY.
So for her who think hurting SY is bad and SY deserve the best thing her only response was leaving. If she left SY wont be trouble its a simple solution as she fears her uncle and what he will do to SY.
This time it was never about herself running away she just have a very wrong way of thinking but I dont blame her. The moment she start enjoying life in that few month tgt with SY uncle came back and trouble not only her but SY. Even SY knew this that why he went into psyco mood and dig up her past. He know she did not leave her like last time. He know she loved him so this time he finally took the step to uncover her past. In here I can understand why she did not suddenly become brave. Few month of happiness wont change after years of thinking how underserving. That is more realistic rather than after I found love everything is love and can heal quickly no?.
He decision to safeguard her guy is wrong but bsc she know her uncle is capable of anything and reporting does not work she just choose to leave herself. Never right choice but to her its the only choice she saw and for her it make sense.
If you are upset bsc deviate from the novel yeah sure where she told him everything and was brave. I am too. That said blaming WYF for her choice is so dumb.
What so wrong about her action?
"people with trauma almost always seek for such a place - a place which feels warm, secure, safe"
While its true, people with PTSD also tend to avoid and not trust anyone and think of themselves as underserving of love any any form of affection. She after grandma died, live in the worst condition not receiving good thing and told that she is underserving, no one backing her in that life for SO many years. In the drama timeline they got together fore merely few month. So In this few month in which helped her she open up about her family and her job. The moment she thought life can be enjoyed and in herself she keep doubting and saying sorry to SY about everything proving how insecure she actually is and is really opening up. Then the bar scene happen only then she really broke thinking if she stayed uncle will keep disturbing him and make it worst. She feel back into the cocoon of thinking she is underserving in which its very realistic. SY never knew her full story nor did she ever tell he did shower her with love and she also in turn love him back and open up to him.
They took a different approach but in my eye really more realistic. The Novel made it so once you found a safe place even after so many years of habit can be change in mere month. The moment she start thinking she can enjoy life it goes away with the uncle. Of course she would not be brave still she just crawl up and not fully and the hook came right back and when she dodge it the hook hit the person she love most. Its a very normal response anyone would have to blame herself again and again.
So while I love the novel. If you just think drama it make so much more sense. People also love blaming and now almost everyone blame her decision in which I think its absolutely normal. She was never healed she just got better bsc of SY and when she start having future thinking life with SY then comes the catch.
Love can fight everything and even cure cancer :).
A lady to be strong must fight back and always push back.
A guy with a perfect life is sad bsc he is chasing a broken lady. HAHA
Love does not help and in LOGICAL sense does communication solve a lot issue YES it does but is it hard for her ? YES.
THE " I WILL not hurt SY again" Until his bar got reported she directly pull that issue is BECAUSE OF HER. She ignore the call and picture sent from the uncle, got bullied outside of work she still ignore all that. She never feel danger BSC OF herself she RAN AWAY bsc TO HER ONLY WAY SY will not be disturb IS HER LEAVING. The more she stays THE MORE the guy will trouble SY. To her and SHE ALSO SAID THIS HE ONLY DESERVER THE BEST.
SHE NEVER ONCE THOUGHT SHE WAS THE BEST. Constantly thinking is she deserving of the life she have friend and SY. HER only ISSUE IS COMMUNICATION.
IN fact Rather then BLAMING HER. WHY SY AFTER her crying SO MANY TIME and ALL never seek professional help for her In therapy ?! OR Realised all this is a sign sooner and do some digging himself rather than people leave only start? OWHH You all will SAY HE IS PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IF SHE NEVER TELL BETTER NOT TO PRY!.
Are you hearing what you all are saying? You are totally underminding what is means to have PTSD in WYF eyes AVOIDing IS BEST FOR EVERYONE she love. as she believe in no justice SHE TRIED THAT and GOT REPRIMANDED FOR IT
Lady been alone for 6-7 years enduring all this.
Yes she came back found the love of her life become a very sweet couple for not over 3/4month, open up to him about almost all aspect of her life. The moment she think she can enjoy life, uncle came back make trouble to SY bar was her final straw. Uncle finding her family finding her she ignore all that. Only thing that broke her was when uncle went to report SY bar.
In the novel they focus on their love and how love defeats all so sweet and lovely I would love to see that happen to. Do you think that is really realistic? I dont see the wrong in what she did.
All the thing they been through is only few month. Is really nothing they were SO happy those few month what thing they been through tgt? SY did not know about her life and SY life was perfect with her in it. So what exactly have they as a couple been through?.
Oh right she still think she is undeserving right we got that part right?.
oh wait did we also get the part where she said she wil not hurt SY and he ONLY deserver THE BEST THING in life. Did she think she is THE BEST?. NO.
Oh right she ignore her uncle text and bully outside of her job place still never ran this point still never face the family.
The only time she brave up to face her family bsc SY bar was reported.
Oh wait do you think her feeling so unworthy ady and suddenly even SY also got into trouble bsc of her finally she broke?
Where she think BSC SY deserve better her trouble will only bring SY trouble and it did hence why it happen?
Like I agree the NOVEL is GOOD changing the plot is so nonsense i sure will stand with the author but is the novel 100% correct? its an adapatation and I feel they just dig deeper into WYF own personal insecurities and people cannot accept that.
All leads must go through thing together have good communication skill and happy family only think of each other bsc love is SO great it conquer all.
First time she leave SY was in doubt weather she love him or not and what happen to her. Think he is just a 2nd guy or a spare tyre.
This time, they did not give WYF the "braveness" everyone so wanted from a character and the novel facing the truth after finding love, love save all.
Instead deviate and from the story which is not good from director/writer to do in case the author dislike it I will sure support the author. That said as romantic as it is the writer finding love = become so mentally strong when she was not we can see that through even when they are dating, doubting herself and thinking weather she deserve it and constantly apologising that is not a sign of a brave person. she is very insecure. I know that bsc I apologise LIKE ALL THE TIME but its very bad thing to do
for SY is totally different. This time SY knows she love her and knows she left not bsc of breaking up. HE knows that there is something wrong as after she came back that day he also felt different already and all the sleep walking and crying. So he knows hence why he took action to dig deeper on what really happen to WYF why she is like that.
Even she said when she fall catch her and HE will. Knowing that a lady love you but have other reason will only prompt the guy to take aggressive action which he did. That said no one ever mention this.
This leave and the previous leave is SO different in the context of the drama only.
She given up on everyone thinking she is so underserving and just live her life on her own accord because everyone judge her. until SY came back in told him alot actually like ALOT but do people change overnight NO.
Her mother left her, aunt never give her anything nice, Uncle harassed her, she fell out the window and injured herself took a police to care for her instead of her family. The call with the mother when she asked for help in the end she is the trouble. Reported police and in the end she got blamed by everyone again.
Where was SY that time ? SO he stalk her passionately then its so SAD for SY.
to understand the show tells you she always think SY deserver only the best and she never thought of herself the BEST. The moment she enjoys her life than Family came in picture again and Uncle came back again. She ignore it all then Uncle disturb her NVM. She endure again. Then Uncle did something bad the the bar and false reported it. Only then she stood up and face her family. So in this time for her of course she will leave. Her leaving will ensure that guy she love only guy won't get disturb again.
Its always easy to blame the weaker mentally person we all love to see drama with a strong mental lady or guy how strong and this strong person show weakness how sad.
Never think about that the weaker once exist in this world. LOL very funny your statement.
AT least that why SY will never exist because SY knows all this and this time he never blames her and choose to uncover thing himself to understand her life and not be passive anymore.
That said its not 50/50 at all she at this point never face her own issue head on too. Yes she knows SY love her already and SY now knows she love him too not of any other stupid reason. I don't know about how you view thing maybe very different from mine. Like it she told him everything about her life beside this part that is shown haunting her. EP 25 also shows why she is so haunted by this part of her life. Everytime she saw that guy she will have a mini panic attk and she was so brave enough to stand up for SY after knowing his bar is closed for inspection. Not for herself is for SY.
She also said SY deserve only the best thing = her gone = best thing as she see herself an very dirty. It make more sense than suddenly becoming brave when she is always burden by it no?
You live your life 5-6/7 years apart alone and bearing everything. YES you love SY and hence why she moved back and got together and SY did really help shine a lot of light in her life to a point she TOLD HIM alot of thing she would NEVER tell anyone.
This is just a person becoming strong directly journey when they find love is about personal struggle - she will like in the novel found out everything SY did for her and become even more guilty which will make her love him more but that time is almost the end
IMO i can see why there is this changes and Honestly, I dont mind the hate i am used to having diff opinion bsc I can understand more thing. I feel this change is good. Rather than they argued > SY go Yihe > Punch DJX > feeling guilty WYF > Find SY >All is happy happy.
This shows you how she have never come to term with her this part of life and that why front scene where she meet the uncle she will always have a panic attk kinda thing and also shows you how easy to blame everything on the person who leave.
What can she do about that? EP 25 shows that reporting is useless? What else can she do? Harassment does not = jail time no prove nth and when no one got your back on it too. Yeah they did not follow the novel for this which is unfortunate.
That said I feel like this is part of a social experiment in MDL , like if you are angry on EP 24 she left you are part of the problem like the HR personnel when SY was talking to her. EP 25 shows you why she never dare to face them all and also she still think she is a burden especially when the bar was disturbed of course she blames herself. So instead of saying she hurt "SY" which she did again its more like since adult its time for SY to knows the truth and dig deeper. Like being passive is good and all but I think as a guy when she is your GF already and especially now and shown in the show he finally start digging instead of being there for her. He strt digging and more he realise he actually also knows nothing. Which is what I think is a good change to me. She will continue to be very very passive and avoid everyone as she think she is just a BIG burden to anyone close.
Of course what she did was logically wrong of and did make NO sense . That said not everyone in this world is a good communicator and see the shitty family never even helped her once and no one cared for her and a police lady was the one that helped her!.
Same with most the comments now. Its very funny to see honestly. Everyone is acting like what the HR persn did. "Young people cant handle pressure and just choose to run or complain etc etc". I listen to this word so many times in my life too.
I can see why people are upset but I think its done pretty well this two EP....ONE thing is her action. I wanna kill the whole family if I am able to enter the screen SCREWED up family. What really got me is when she call her mother begging her to bring her back so tough to watch. The mother response was even SICKNING !!!. How they all went to blame mode when she called the cops and no one cared about her injuries at all. That family i wanna kill them myself.
All and all yeah they change it. That said I really think its nice maybe its only me and also she get to go back to ballet again soon which is another part of her life soon.