ofcc i wasn't sure whether to add him or not since i personally don't view him as a red flag further into the…
Choking someone does not make you a red flag.. I fear westerners have lost the definition.
Sean is not a red flag at all, the only 'red' flag in Not Me was Black and you can't really call him a red flag seeing as everything he did he did to protect the people he cared for.
Sean choked White when they weren't anywhere near a relationship, and because he believed White sabotaged him. This was once and is not something you can call being a red flag, in the world of terrible BL lovers Sean certainly is not one of them.
Sorry but the only correct thing here is being bothered about the scene in episode one. .
Chi Cheng kept himself at bay for months while Wei Wei was pursuing him, Wei Wei kept chasing after him and throwing signals that he wanted to be intimate with Chi Cheng but then freaking out and pushing him away when Chi Cheng reciprocated. (Lots of mxed signals)
Chi Cheng bared with this because as he mentioned several times: 'I cannot bring myself to force myself onto him.' when consulting Guo about it.
He always respected Wei Wei's boundaries as much as possible and put up with him clearly scheming against him, he never SA'd Wei Wei.
I had to have this same debate with viewers of Love in the Air over P'Payu. When you're into BDSM especially brat taming or domination you create a safe word or a signal for your lover to know you actually want to stop, or you start actively fighting back (to the point where you may harm them) to show you aren't going for what they're putting down. Wei Wei saying 'No' while clearly enjoying (From body language, not just whether or not he was h*rd.) what was going on and Chi Cheng continuing based on this clear enjoyment and the lack of a proper struggle is NOT s*xually assaulting Wei Wei. We see how Wei Wei cried to Xiao when he felt wronged due to Chi Cheng just kissing him without asking, wouldn't he cry to Xiao even more if he felt that Chi Cheng assaulted him? Please let's use our heads!
Wei Wei has never expressed being assaulted, after they got in a relationship he never truly denied Chi Cheng's advances until the misunderstanding arc where Chi Cheng backed off after seeing Wei Wei didn't want anything. Not even the directors or screenwriters confirmed anything about SA, I personally cannot stand it which is why I stopped reading BL because it is so normalized within Manhwas and Manhuas that it repulsed me. Yet never once have I felt that there was SA within Revenged Love other then episode one, and honestly this could be based on interpretation though if you're willingly choosing to interpret this as SA.. That is your problem entirely, don't try to deter others by making things out to be what they are not, respectfully.
This is like being angry that someone would put their dog above strangers - Chi Cheng's snakes were basically…
His parents and sister clearly are not considered real family to him, all Chi Cheng receives from them when he visits is critism, requests, and orders.
Personally I liked the hesitation he showed when killing Yellow Dragon, it gave another layer of Humanity to Chi Cheng for me. If he was able to easily kill a snake he considered closer to him then family that he personally raised for over (10?) years with no regrets wouldn't that mean he's able to throw away a boy he met a year ago that he's just formed an attachment to just as easy?
I hold human lives and the lives of animals with the same regard, if i had to choose between killing my cat that's been with me and helped me through losing my father, stayed by my side for over eight years, one I personally raised since he was a kitten. Vs a person I met a few months ago and just started forming a bond with? I would certainly hesitate and then grieve over KeKi because he was like family to me.
The fact that Chi Cheng killed Yellow Dragon for Wei Wei then apologized for hesitating should've been the only thing on your mind, not the fact that he hesitated in killing what was essentially a family member.
I truly cannot understand those who critique the fact that Chi Cheng values his snakes so highly
The gang rape bothered me too till now I was just shocked how he was ok with that He even told the guy to make…
This is like being angry that someone would put their dog above strangers - Chi Cheng's snakes were basically the only family he had. And Yellow Dragon was the one he had the longest which also held the memories of his past lover.
If i had been done wrong many times and always had no one to lean on but my pet snakes i would put them above people too!
I'm not going to lie, I was baffled at the beauty of both our main actors.. I've never seen them before. I would not be shocked if KengNamping became as successful and popular as couples like Taynew, Smartboom, Joongdunk etc. After just this one work, their chemistry already feels incredible after just two episodes! It's not too surprising that people are negative reviewing out of petty panic that this pair will outshine their favorite couples because they just might.. (i say this as my favorite couplings are JD, ZNN, and FK I am not putting any other couple down!!)
I will always stick by my thinking that reviews should be left to give others a fair look into the series to decide whether or not they'd like it..never to deter a viewer away. Especially since it can harm the talented actors aswell
I'm so happy to see a review like yours! I feel that die-hard novel fans nitpicked too hard (a lot of the novel…
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I will personally always stand by the thought that just because someone didn't like a show it doesn't give them the right to make reviews calling it trash, it just wasn't what they like and that's fine. If you're giving critique it *has* to be unbiased, give others a chance to decide whether or not they enjoy it instead of trying to deter them away entirely.
I also hate when people get angry at a live action *adaptation* not being like the original work, an adaptation quite literally means a change I am not even a native english speaker yet I am aware of this. For films it is (quote un quote) "In film, an adaptation is when a movie is based on another existing work—like a book, play, comic, video game, or even a real-life story—but changed or reimagined for the screen."
It is why I did not complain when I learned Weak Hero Class 1-2 had changes, I even went and read the original manga and thought the changes implemented made the series better and overall more immersive, I plan to read the Pitbabe novel aswell. If people get angry when a work is changed they shouldn't be watching an *adapted* version of it, simple as that.
(Not to mention the very stupid and uptight opinion on *side* couples needing more screen time. Side couples exist basically to act as filler and extra screen time and for fans to feel as though they have a bit more media to consume, Charliebabe are our *MAIN* couple, we are watching the Pitbabe series for them. All other couples should and are be considered irrelevant plot wise because in reality we only need our main two to keep the story pushing forward, viewers should be greatful that we got so many couples in this series at all. If they want to see another couple in the spotlight they should watch other shows with those actors in them, Pitbabe is about Charlie and Babe, other characters exist to orbit around them and deepen the plot. I say this with my favorite couple being AlanJeff.)
I came to the reviews because i was worried that I was just in a series slump but I'm happy to find someone with the same thoughts.
I started Topform after Knock out and dropped them both for the same reason, being the plot moves too fast.. Why are we going through five arcs in the first four episodes?? I'm disappointed because they were both so hyped up; The only thing that makes these series slightly watchable are the actors.
Totally agree with you.. I enjoyed watching season 2. seeing a lot negative reviews is really disheartening😔
Most of them are people who didn't pay attention or just personally didn't enjoy the concept/theme of the series, which is even more irritating because it gives them no right to deter others away just because it wasn't their cup of tea
Charlie and Babe’s storyline was far from a mess. Their dynamic was a core part of season one, and it was deeply explored from the start. In season two, things naturally shift. We start seeing the strain of real-world pressure on their relationship. Charlie’s spending nearly all his time working on the skill-dissolving serum, not just for himself and Babe, but for Jeff and every other special alpha. His heart’s in the right place, but he’s barely present and Babe feels that.
Then comes Willy. Things get even messier, and not because Babe did anything, but because Charlie starts doubting. Not because he wants to accuse Babe. He actually holds off as long as he can, but because Babe hides it from him. That secrecy shakes his trust. Even after finding out nothing happened, Charlie’s still hurt, and he admits he has a right to be. Meanwhile, Babe is clinging tightly to his faith in Charlie.
They’re not “falling apart” for no reason. Their conflict is rooted in how differently they love. Jeff explains it best in the Novel:
“…But Babe’s and Charlie’s love isn’t the same.” – Jeff “What do you mean?” – Alan “Babe loves wanting to possess. He wants Charlie close all the time. He’d do everything to keep him with him,” – Jeff “But Charlie loves wanting to protect and care. He wants to be with him, but if being together isn’t good, he’d rather not be.” – Jeff “Babe would want to die without Charlie, but Charlie would die so that Babe could live.” – Jeff “If you imagine an action movie, in a fight scene, Babe would shoot the one pointing at Charlie. But Charlie would shoot everyone with a gun, except Babe.” – Jeff
That’s not messy. That’s nuanced. Pooh and Pavel portrayed this contrast perfectly. Their love isn’t always pretty, but it’s honest and intense. That’s why I always tell people, you have to actually pay attention when watching. You can’t just turn your brain off and expect to get the full experience.
As for Alan, he never dealt with Tony directly. All he really knew was that Jeff and Charlie were let go as a children (because they never revealed their abilities), , and Babe was raised and manipulated by him. That’s it. Alan thought he could bargain with Tony, thought he could gain strength, maybe fix his spinal condition, save Dean and Kenta, and buy them enough time to gain the upper hand.
Everyone else would've immediately shut that idea down. Negotiating with Tony is insanity, but Alan was desperate. His spinal issues were limiting him, and he couldn’t physically protect anyone anymore no matter how badly he wanted to. That restlessness, that feeling of failure, it pushed him into doing something stupid. He knows it. Jeff knows it. We know it.
And about Kenta, he shouldn’t have gone to Korea with Kim. He said it himself in the end. He needed time to live for himself. Not for Tony, not for Pete, not even for Kim. Kenta spent years being a tool, first under Tony’s control, then living for someone else’s safety or approval. When that ended, he was lost. Following Kim would’ve just kept that cycle going.
He needed space to breathe and figure out who he is outside of all that. Kim understood and respected that. And clearly, things worked out. They stayed in touch and got together later, as we see in the time skip.
Also, was Winner at the wedding? Lol. No idea. But Willy was. For some reason. He helped out in the end (kinda), and Babe forgave him… for some reason.
Charlie and Babe’s storyline was far from a mess. Their dynamic was a core part of season one, and it was deeply explored from the start. In season two, things naturally shift. We start seeing the strain of real-world pressure on their relationship. Charlie’s spending nearly all his time working on the skill-dissolving serum, not just for himself and Babe, but for Jeff and every other special alpha. His heart’s in the right place, but he’s barely present and Babe feels that.
Then comes Willy. Things get even messier, and not because Babe did anything, but because Charlie starts doubting. Not because he wants to accuse Babe. He actually holds off as long as he can, but because Babe hides it from him. That secrecy shakes his trust. Even after finding out nothing happened, Charlie’s still hurt, and he admits he has a right to be. Meanwhile, Babe is clinging tightly to his faith in Charlie.
They’re not “falling apart” for no reason. Their conflict is rooted in how differently they love. Jeff explains it best in the books:
“…But Babe’s and Charlie’s love isn’t the same.” – Jeff “What do you mean?” – Alan “Babe loves wanting to possess. He wants Charlie close all the time. He’d do everything to keep him with him,” – Jeff “But Charlie loves wanting to protect and care. He wants to be with him, but if being together isn’t good, he’d rather not be.” – Jeff “Babe would want to die without Charlie, but Charlie would die so that Babe could live.” – Jeff “If you imagine an action movie, in a fight scene, Babe would shoot the one pointing at Charlie. But Charlie would shoot everyone with a gun, except Babe.” – Jeff
That’s not messy. That’s nuanced. Pooh and Pavel portrayed this contrast perfectly. Their love isn’t always pretty, but it’s honest and intense. That’s why I always tell people, you have to actually pay attention when watching. You can’t just turn your brain off and expect to get the full experience.
As for Alan, he never dealt with Tony directly. All he really knew was that Jeff was let go as a child (because he never revealed his ability), Charlie escaped, and Babe was raised and manipulated by him. That’s it. Alan thought he could bargain with and outsmart Tony, thought he could gain strength, maybe fix his spinal condition, save Dean and Kenta, and buy them enough time to gain the upper hand.
Everyone else would've immediately shut that idea down. Negotiating with Tony is insanity, but Alan was desperate. His spinal issues were limiting him, and he couldn’t physically protect anyone anymore no matter how badly he wanted to. That restlessness, that feeling of failure, it pushed him into doing something stupid. He knows it. Jeff knows it. We know it.
And about Kenta, he shouldn’t have gone to Korea with Kim. He said it himself in the end. He needed time to live for himself. Not for Tony, not for Pete, not even for Kim. Kenta spent years being a tool, first under Tony’s control, then living for someone else’s safety or approval. When that ended, he was lost. Following Kim would’ve just kept that cycle going.
He needed space to breathe and figure out who he is outside of all that. Kim understood and respected that. And clearly, things worked out. They stayed in touch and got together later, as we see in the time skip.
Also, was Winner at the wedding? Lol. No idea. But Willy was. For some reason. He helped out in the end (kinda), and Babe forgave him… for some reason. Let’s just chalk it up to closure or whatever.
Sometimes I can't help but wish people who can't look at characters or shows past a surface level viewpoint just wouldn't watch series at all. Not to mention people who make a series seem bad just because it wasn't their cup of tea
A drama can’t be deep or have meaning if you’re not actually paying attention. Weak Hero Class 1 was so much more than just fighting and violence.
The thing about the teachers “serving no real purpose”? That’s actually realistic. In Korea, it used to be extremely easy for a student to get a teacher fired. One complaint to the parents, and that teacher's career could be over. That dynamic of powerless authority is part of the problem the series is portraying. Who’s gonna stand up to a rich student when the parents are ready to threaten lawsuits?
Also, Weak Hero was literally marketed as an action drama about troubled teens. I’m not sure what you were expecting. It’s like buying banana ice cream and then complaining that it tastes like banana and that you’re tired of frozen treats. Maybe next time… don’t get banana ICE cream?
As for character development, it’s there. You just have to actually watch how they behave, listen to what they say, and notice the nuances. Beomseok, Sieun, and Oh Beom all had very clear arcs. If anything, I only wish we got more depth on Suho i couldn't get a full grasp on him.
And let’s not forget: it’s a K-drama. Things are going to be dramatized. That’s the whole genre. Nobody’s tuning in for a hyper-realistic docuseries about a smart kid with absentee parents and social issues.
Beomseok not knowing why he lashed out isn’t “lazy writing” it’s realistic character work. He’s a mentally unstable teenager with deep abandonment trauma and unresolved abuse. Of course he doesn’t fully understand his actions. That’s the point. People don’t always have clean, well-written reasons for spiraling. Sometimes it’s just too much all at once, and that’s what Weak Hero does well showing how things can slowly, then suddenly, fall apart.
You don’t have to like the show, that’s fair. But calling it shallow just because it didn’t hand you everything in neat little flashbacks and monologues is kind of missing the entire point.
Omg yeah I was feeling the same way!!! I was sooooo annoyed at Beom-Seok!!!! Like I get it I feel sorry for you…
as someone who relates to Beomseok and really appreciated the depth of his character, I can’t help but disagree.
Beomseok isn’t a clean-cut character. He exists in that grey space between black (evil, cruel, villainous) and white (kind, heroic, angelic). Psychologically, he’s extremely realistic. And in my opinion, you absolutely cannot look at him just on a surface level and think that’s enough to judge his actions or his character as a whole. Respectfully.
He was raised as a tool, nothing more than a PR piece for his father to look good. "See? The great politician adopting a poor orphan" His worth was tied to how useful he was. Behind closed doors? Beatings, constant invalidation, and being treated like he didn’t matter. That alone can completely twist a person’s perception of themselves and others. especially on how to deal with and regulate emotions, as a child the environment you're raised in shapes you as a person, it's why generational trauma exists.
Then he gets thrown into the world as this awkward, in other peoples povs hes a clearly sheltered rich kid, prime target for bullying. The first “friends” he makes use him for money, and once that wears off, they beat him for fun. Literally. No reason, just violence and mockery.
Then we get to Sieun and Suho, his first actual “friends.” And that meant everything to him. But even here, it’s not as perfect as it seems. Suho only really hung out with Beomseok when Sieun was around (minus one deleted scene), and let’s be honest, Suho has this protective, almost aggressive energy that can feel controlling. That scene where he forces Beomseok to confront his bullies? That wasn’t empowering. That was traumatizing. It was handled with zero care for Beomseok’s mental state. And the way Suho handled things in general wasn’t that far off from how Beomseok’s bullies acted, just masked as “tough love.”
Then you and TONS of other people say, “He wanted to kill Suho over a girl” like it was some dramatic love triangle. (Which lets me know none of you truly paid attention to Beomseok or any character dynamics throughout the series.) That’s just not true.
First of all: He didn’t want to kill Suho. He wanted to humiliate him. He was angry, overwhelmed, and spiraling, trying to reclaim some control, some sense of worth. And the second he realized the damage he caused, you immediately see the regret, guilt, and shock in his face. It wasn’t about "winning" or being evil. It was about desperation.
Second: Beomseok asked Suho to follow him back on Instagram three times. No response. Okay, maybe Suho just doesn’t use social media, right? But then Beomseok checks and sees Suho is following Yeong-i. Probably because she took his phone and did it herself (Lets be honest she totally would lol), but Beomseok doesn’t know that. Then he sees her feed, full of happy pictures with Suho and Sieun, hanging out, laughing, being close. He sees himself replaced in real time. Imagine what that does to someone with his background.
To someone like Beomseok, that situation screams:
“Did they even like me in the first place?”
“Am I that easy to forget?”
“They were just using me again.”
“She took my place and no one noticed.”
“I knew I wasn’t really their friend.”
“What does she have that I don’t?”
And that inner voice? It’s not just insecurity. It’s trauma, neglect, rejection, and years of being thrown away by people who were supposed to care. That spiral isn’t about “a girl.” It’s about feeling disposable again.
At the end of the day, Beomseok is a mentally ill teenager. He needs serious help. That doesn’t make what he did justifiable, never will. but it does make it understandable. He wasn’t owed that help from Suho or Sieun. But his actions are excusable in the sense that they come from real, deep-rooted pain, not malice. (after all there's a reason some criminals are sent to psych wards instead of prison isn't there?) In my opinion, that makes him one of the most realistic, down to earth, actual teenage characters in the entire story.
Sean is not a red flag at all, the only 'red' flag in Not Me was Black and you can't really call him a red flag seeing as everything he did he did to protect the people he cared for.
Sean choked White when they weren't anywhere near a relationship, and because he believed White sabotaged him. This was once and is not something you can call being a red flag, in the world of terrible BL lovers Sean certainly is not one of them.
Chi Cheng kept himself at bay for months while Wei Wei was pursuing him, Wei Wei kept chasing after him and throwing signals that he wanted to be intimate with Chi Cheng but then freaking out and pushing him away when Chi Cheng reciprocated. (Lots of mxed signals)
Chi Cheng bared with this because as he mentioned several times: 'I cannot bring myself to force myself onto him.' when consulting Guo about it.
He always respected Wei Wei's boundaries as much as possible and put up with him clearly scheming against him, he never SA'd Wei Wei.
I had to have this same debate with viewers of Love in the Air over P'Payu. When you're into BDSM especially brat taming or domination you create a safe word or a signal for your lover to know you actually want to stop, or you start actively fighting back (to the point where you may harm them) to show you aren't going for what they're putting down. Wei Wei saying 'No' while clearly enjoying (From body language, not just whether or not he was h*rd.) what was going on and Chi Cheng continuing based on this clear enjoyment and the lack of a proper struggle is NOT s*xually assaulting Wei Wei. We see how Wei Wei cried to Xiao when he felt wronged due to Chi Cheng just kissing him without asking, wouldn't he cry to Xiao even more if he felt that Chi Cheng assaulted him? Please let's use our heads!
Wei Wei has never expressed being assaulted, after they got in a relationship he never truly denied Chi Cheng's advances until the misunderstanding arc where Chi Cheng backed off after seeing Wei Wei didn't want anything. Not even the directors or screenwriters confirmed anything about SA, I personally cannot stand it which is why I stopped reading BL because it is so normalized within Manhwas and Manhuas that it repulsed me. Yet never once have I felt that there was SA within Revenged Love other then episode one, and honestly this could be based on interpretation though if you're willingly choosing to interpret this as SA.. That is your problem entirely, don't try to deter others by making things out to be what they are not, respectfully.
Personally I liked the hesitation he showed when killing Yellow Dragon, it gave another layer of Humanity to Chi Cheng for me. If he was able to easily kill a snake he considered closer to him then family that he personally raised for over (10?) years with no regrets wouldn't that mean he's able to throw away a boy he met a year ago that he's just formed an attachment to just as easy?
I hold human lives and the lives of animals with the same regard, if i had to choose between killing my cat that's been with me and helped me through losing my father, stayed by my side for over eight years, one I personally raised since he was a kitten. Vs a person I met a few months ago and just started forming a bond with? I would certainly hesitate and then grieve over KeKi because he was like family to me.
The fact that Chi Cheng killed Yellow Dragon for Wei Wei then apologized for hesitating should've been the only thing on your mind, not the fact that he hesitated in killing what was essentially a family member.
I truly cannot understand those who critique the fact that Chi Cheng values his snakes so highly
If i had been done wrong many times and always had no one to lean on but my pet snakes i would put them above people too!
I will always stick by my thinking that reviews should be left to give others a fair look into the series to decide whether or not they'd like it..never to deter a viewer away. Especially since it can harm the talented actors aswell
I also hate when people get angry at a live action *adaptation* not being like the original work, an adaptation quite literally means a change I am not even a native english speaker yet I am aware of this. For films it is (quote un quote) "In film, an adaptation is when a movie is based on another existing work—like a book, play, comic, video game, or even a real-life story—but changed or reimagined for the screen."
It is why I did not complain when I learned Weak Hero Class 1-2 had changes, I even went and read the original manga and thought the changes implemented made the series better and overall more immersive, I plan to read the Pitbabe novel aswell. If people get angry when a work is changed they shouldn't be watching an *adapted* version of it, simple as that.
(Not to mention the very stupid and uptight opinion on *side* couples needing more screen time. Side couples exist basically to act as filler and extra screen time and for fans to feel as though they have a bit more media to consume, Charliebabe are our *MAIN* couple, we are watching the Pitbabe series for them. All other couples should and are be considered irrelevant plot wise because in reality we only need our main two to keep the story pushing forward, viewers should be greatful that we got so many couples in this series at all. If they want to see another couple in the spotlight they should watch other shows with those actors in them, Pitbabe is about Charlie and Babe, other characters exist to orbit around them and deepen the plot. I say this with my favorite couple being AlanJeff.)
I started Topform after Knock out and dropped them both for the same reason, being the plot moves too fast.. Why are we going through five arcs in the first four episodes?? I'm disappointed because they were both so hyped up; The only thing that makes these series slightly watchable are the actors.
Less is more i tell ya, Less is More.
Their dynamic was a core part of season one, and it was deeply explored from the start. In season two, things naturally shift. We start seeing the strain of real-world pressure on their relationship. Charlie’s spending nearly all his time working on the skill-dissolving serum, not just for himself and Babe, but for Jeff and every other special alpha. His heart’s in the right place, but he’s barely present and Babe feels that.
Then comes Willy. Things get even messier, and not because Babe did anything, but because Charlie starts doubting. Not because he wants to accuse Babe. He actually holds off as long as he can, but because Babe hides it from him. That secrecy shakes his trust. Even after finding out nothing happened, Charlie’s still hurt, and he admits he has a right to be. Meanwhile, Babe is clinging tightly to his faith in Charlie.
They’re not “falling apart” for no reason. Their conflict is rooted in how differently they love.
Jeff explains it best in the Novel:
“…But Babe’s and Charlie’s love isn’t the same.” – Jeff
“What do you mean?” – Alan
“Babe loves wanting to possess. He wants Charlie close all the time. He’d do everything to keep him with him,” – Jeff
“But Charlie loves wanting to protect and care. He wants to be with him, but if being together isn’t good, he’d rather not be.” – Jeff
“Babe would want to die without Charlie, but Charlie would die so that Babe could live.” – Jeff
“If you imagine an action movie, in a fight scene, Babe would shoot the one pointing at Charlie. But Charlie would shoot everyone with a gun, except Babe.” – Jeff
That’s not messy. That’s nuanced. Pooh and Pavel portrayed this contrast perfectly. Their love isn’t always pretty, but it’s honest and intense. That’s why I always tell people, you have to actually pay attention when watching. You can’t just turn your brain off and expect to get the full experience.
As for Alan, he never dealt with Tony directly.
All he really knew was that Jeff and Charlie were let go as a children (because they never revealed their abilities), , and Babe was raised and manipulated by him. That’s it. Alan thought he could bargain with Tony, thought he could gain strength, maybe fix his spinal condition, save Dean and Kenta, and buy them enough time to gain the upper hand.
Everyone else would've immediately shut that idea down. Negotiating with Tony is insanity, but Alan was desperate. His spinal issues were limiting him, and he couldn’t physically protect anyone anymore no matter how badly he wanted to. That restlessness, that feeling of failure, it pushed him into doing something stupid. He knows it. Jeff knows it. We know it.
And about Kenta, he shouldn’t have gone to Korea with Kim.
He said it himself in the end. He needed time to live for himself. Not for Tony, not for Pete, not even for Kim. Kenta spent years being a tool, first under Tony’s control, then living for someone else’s safety or approval. When that ended, he was lost. Following Kim would’ve just kept that cycle going.
He needed space to breathe and figure out who he is outside of all that. Kim understood and respected that. And clearly, things worked out. They stayed in touch and got together later, as we see in the time skip.
Also, was Winner at the wedding? Lol.
No idea. But Willy was. For some reason. He helped out in the end (kinda), and Babe forgave him… for some reason.
Their dynamic was a core part of season one, and it was deeply explored from the start. In season two, things naturally shift. We start seeing the strain of real-world pressure on their relationship. Charlie’s spending nearly all his time working on the skill-dissolving serum, not just for himself and Babe, but for Jeff and every other special alpha. His heart’s in the right place, but he’s barely present and Babe feels that.
Then comes Willy. Things get even messier, and not because Babe did anything, but because Charlie starts doubting. Not because he wants to accuse Babe. He actually holds off as long as he can, but because Babe hides it from him. That secrecy shakes his trust. Even after finding out nothing happened, Charlie’s still hurt, and he admits he has a right to be. Meanwhile, Babe is clinging tightly to his faith in Charlie.
They’re not “falling apart” for no reason. Their conflict is rooted in how differently they love.
Jeff explains it best in the books:
“…But Babe’s and Charlie’s love isn’t the same.” – Jeff
“What do you mean?” – Alan
“Babe loves wanting to possess. He wants Charlie close all the time. He’d do everything to keep him with him,” – Jeff
“But Charlie loves wanting to protect and care. He wants to be with him, but if being together isn’t good, he’d rather not be.” – Jeff
“Babe would want to die without Charlie, but Charlie would die so that Babe could live.” – Jeff
“If you imagine an action movie, in a fight scene, Babe would shoot the one pointing at Charlie. But Charlie would shoot everyone with a gun, except Babe.” – Jeff
That’s not messy. That’s nuanced. Pooh and Pavel portrayed this contrast perfectly. Their love isn’t always pretty, but it’s honest and intense. That’s why I always tell people, you have to actually pay attention when watching. You can’t just turn your brain off and expect to get the full experience.
As for Alan, he never dealt with Tony directly.
All he really knew was that Jeff was let go as a child (because he never revealed his ability), Charlie escaped, and Babe was raised and manipulated by him. That’s it. Alan thought he could bargain with and outsmart Tony, thought he could gain strength, maybe fix his spinal condition, save Dean and Kenta, and buy them enough time to gain the upper hand.
Everyone else would've immediately shut that idea down. Negotiating with Tony is insanity, but Alan was desperate. His spinal issues were limiting him, and he couldn’t physically protect anyone anymore no matter how badly he wanted to. That restlessness, that feeling of failure, it pushed him into doing something stupid. He knows it. Jeff knows it. We know it.
And about Kenta, he shouldn’t have gone to Korea with Kim.
He said it himself in the end. He needed time to live for himself. Not for Tony, not for Pete, not even for Kim. Kenta spent years being a tool, first under Tony’s control, then living for someone else’s safety or approval. When that ended, he was lost. Following Kim would’ve just kept that cycle going.
He needed space to breathe and figure out who he is outside of all that. Kim understood and respected that. And clearly, things worked out. They stayed in touch and got together later, as we see in the time skip.
Also, was Winner at the wedding? Lol.
No idea. But Willy was. For some reason. He helped out in the end (kinda), and Babe forgave him… for some reason. Let’s just chalk it up to closure or whatever.
Sometimes I can't help but wish people who can't look at characters or shows past a surface level viewpoint just wouldn't watch series at all. Not to mention people who make a series seem bad just because it wasn't their cup of tea
The thing about the teachers “serving no real purpose”? That’s actually realistic. In Korea, it used to be extremely easy for a student to get a teacher fired. One complaint to the parents, and that teacher's career could be over. That dynamic of powerless authority is part of the problem the series is portraying. Who’s gonna stand up to a rich student when the parents are ready to threaten lawsuits?
Also, Weak Hero was literally marketed as an action drama about troubled teens. I’m not sure what you were expecting. It’s like buying banana ice cream and then complaining that it tastes like banana and that you’re tired of frozen treats. Maybe next time… don’t get banana ICE cream?
As for character development, it’s there. You just have to actually watch how they behave, listen to what they say, and notice the nuances. Beomseok, Sieun, and Oh Beom all had very clear arcs. If anything, I only wish we got more depth on Suho i couldn't get a full grasp on him.
And let’s not forget: it’s a K-drama. Things are going to be dramatized. That’s the whole genre. Nobody’s tuning in for a hyper-realistic docuseries about a smart kid with absentee parents and social issues.
Beomseok not knowing why he lashed out isn’t “lazy writing” it’s realistic character work. He’s a mentally unstable teenager with deep abandonment trauma and unresolved abuse. Of course he doesn’t fully understand his actions. That’s the point. People don’t always have clean, well-written reasons for spiraling. Sometimes it’s just too much all at once, and that’s what Weak Hero does well showing how things can slowly, then suddenly, fall apart.
You don’t have to like the show, that’s fair. But calling it shallow just because it didn’t hand you everything in neat little flashbacks and monologues is kind of missing the entire point.
Beomseok isn’t a clean-cut character. He exists in that grey space between black (evil, cruel, villainous) and white (kind, heroic, angelic). Psychologically, he’s extremely realistic. And in my opinion, you absolutely cannot look at him just on a surface level and think that’s enough to judge his actions or his character as a whole. Respectfully.
He was raised as a tool, nothing more than a PR piece for his father to look good. "See? The great politician adopting a poor orphan" His worth was tied to how useful he was. Behind closed doors? Beatings, constant invalidation, and being treated like he didn’t matter. That alone can completely twist a person’s perception of themselves and others. especially on how to deal with and regulate emotions, as a child the environment you're raised in shapes you as a person, it's why generational trauma exists.
Then he gets thrown into the world as this awkward, in other peoples povs hes a clearly sheltered rich kid, prime target for bullying. The first “friends” he makes use him for money, and once that wears off, they beat him for fun. Literally. No reason, just violence and mockery.
Then we get to Sieun and Suho, his first actual “friends.” And that meant everything to him. But even here, it’s not as perfect as it seems. Suho only really hung out with Beomseok when Sieun was around (minus one deleted scene), and let’s be honest, Suho has this protective, almost aggressive energy that can feel controlling. That scene where he forces Beomseok to confront his bullies? That wasn’t empowering. That was traumatizing. It was handled with zero care for Beomseok’s mental state. And the way Suho handled things in general wasn’t that far off from how Beomseok’s bullies acted, just masked as “tough love.”
Then you and TONS of other people say, “He wanted to kill Suho over a girl” like it was some dramatic love triangle. (Which lets me know none of you truly paid attention to Beomseok or any character dynamics throughout the series.) That’s just not true.
First of all: He didn’t want to kill Suho. He wanted to humiliate him. He was angry, overwhelmed, and spiraling, trying to reclaim some control, some sense of worth. And the second he realized the damage he caused, you immediately see the regret, guilt, and shock in his face. It wasn’t about "winning" or being evil. It was about desperation.
Second: Beomseok asked Suho to follow him back on Instagram three times. No response. Okay, maybe Suho just doesn’t use social media, right? But then Beomseok checks and sees Suho is following Yeong-i. Probably because she took his phone and did it herself (Lets be honest she totally would lol), but Beomseok doesn’t know that. Then he sees her feed, full of happy pictures with Suho and Sieun, hanging out, laughing, being close. He sees himself replaced in real time. Imagine what that does to someone with his background.
To someone like Beomseok, that situation screams:
“Did they even like me in the first place?”
“Am I that easy to forget?”
“They were just using me again.”
“She took my place and no one noticed.”
“I knew I wasn’t really their friend.”
“What does she have that I don’t?”
And that inner voice? It’s not just insecurity. It’s trauma, neglect, rejection, and years of being thrown away by people who were supposed to care. That spiral isn’t about “a girl.” It’s about feeling disposable again.
At the end of the day, Beomseok is a mentally ill teenager. He needs serious help. That doesn’t make what he did justifiable, never will. but it does make it understandable. He wasn’t owed that help from Suho or Sieun. But his actions are excusable in the sense that they come from real, deep-rooted pain, not malice. (after all there's a reason some criminals are sent to psych wards instead of prison isn't there?) In my opinion, that makes him one of the most realistic, down to earth, actual teenage characters in the entire story.