carencarine

this is a continuation of PA, no point in denying it bc it is nearly impossible to understand the plot otherwise. if it was a standalone it would be a 7, as a continuation it deserves a 5, thus i put a 6.

cast wise: most of the actors are good. not princess agents cast good, but talenteded enough to pull you in. particularly, the actor of yan xun and then zhuge yue. the fl situation needs to be nuanced: 1) she played the role of young chu and she looks a little similar to the og actress--> easier to accept her, especially whith the pain of the whole cast being new. 2) her acting is acceptable, not great, sometimes even lacking, which can be justified by the writing choices and her inexperience, none of which are the viewers fault. this is mostly a miscasting issue. 3) the scandal surrounding the actress doesnt particularly affect me, her age can even be overlooked. yes it is jarring seeing such a young face for a renowed general and even more how her age impacts the chemisty (or lack of) between her and the ml. knowing yue and chus relationship, they could have pulled it off without any intimate scene, but the writers didnt help with that and the actress is partially to blame.
characterisation: messed up. 1) chu was brave loyal idealistic but not stupid. walking into traps and enforching immediate change to a structural problem shouldnt have been handled this way. 2) yue: a cold strategist with a soft spot for chu. as we progressed in PA, some might have perceived it as a change in charcater towards a masochist lover, which for the grand finale is acceptable but shouldnt have been a recurring theme in rebirth. 3) yan xun: he is a nuanced charcater, between a loyal man who would never kill chu and between a now cruel victim who would hurt her in his journey for revenge. an innocent soul who was wronged and now is hurting others but also someone who should prioritise yanbei. he can become obssessive to a degree. rebirth couldnt consistently deliver these nuances, some scenes showed it while others reduced him to an obssessed unfit king. 4) chun ner: her story arc was completed in PA and even in the novel her role disappeared, bringing her back was a choice. i can understand her actions and motivations till she reached biantang but after that, her role with the 13th prince and zhang che was an overreach. 5) zhang che/prince: they took the one stable character who values huamn life and bent him in the last eps, which could have been an interesting way to see how morals bend against hardship, but the comical way in which his herat changed again in the last ep and discarding his relationship with an eqully moral general that could have brought him back to the right side was a bad take.
scenario/plot: the love story between the 3 main charcaters could have been better. the fragile trust, the obsession, the different values and hardships in life due to their statues could be displayed better. PA has already done the characters development arcs which would make it repetitive to replicate in rebirth and flat if the characters dont change much. seeing how these new personalities interact could have been a repalcement, but rebirth played more on the battles between them than the trust or loyalty that was the cause of the tension.
the battles and deaths were more valued than the plot, making it a repetition of the love betrayal and death triangle without any real tension.
most of the scenes that characters werent acting logically and other measures could have been taken.
yet again, the repetition made the plot weaker, in the first 2 eps, chu falls in the lake twice, there are 2 assassination attempts and in the first 10 eps there is a constant cylce of her being chased and saved in weird ways.
slavery: ending slavery is a moral contemporary ideal that might have existed in ancient china but wouldnt have that much support from influtential people who benifitted from it. its abolition in biantang and opening shops for women as if that would end a structural problem in 2 days was simply wishful thinking.
the role of religion in politics seemed overstated, not bc it doesnt exist but bc neither PA nor the first eps of rebirth have esteblished its role, yet the faceless god's sect have played an important role in the finale that we weren't prepared for.
visuals: a saving grace even if too cliched.
novel/PA: ik the mark on her back wasnt in the novel, but seieng as how loosely rebirth followed the novels, it would have been more interesting to put it back, especially with the title being rebirth that seems to have lost its meaning when we look at the plot.
s2's aim was a closure after yue's sacrific but the last ep wasn't the closure we needed and not the one in the novels. the end trying to be poetic and seeing different endings was a nice concept with bad execution. the timeline is messy, between the moths spent travelling/in battle, the death of li ce and the rule of ximeng, we have contradicitng statements and s2 could have taken from 3 to 6 yrs. chu not appearing in the fianl scene even tho yuwen said she is alive was abd choice. killing off all side character was meant to show the brutality of war, but had a comical effect between all fo them appearing in each others dreams, dying at the same time and having no main chacter impacted. the recurring theme of a main charcater dying and coming back to life simply was badly executed, e.g yuwen yue dying and his corpse being with xinger yet coming to save her int he last ep and somehow managing to find her between 220k fightng soldiers in the same time. audiance's imagination /nostalgia add some of the tension missing.
on a final note, to all those who watched PA or read the novel, i am not unhappy to have a resemblance of a closure (evemn if badly thought out and acted) through rebirth. however, in my mind, i can imagine a 100 better scenarios that use the visuals from rebirth to make a plot that wither follows the novel more closely or makes a new season absed on the the ice power subplot and an=ll the analysis and yearining for this series, developped during the alst 10 yrs.