i don't understand why majority of them are defending zheng shi's actions while bashing Qi Zheng for his behaviour after ZS death. (well its understandable why he behaved that way)
First of all, ZS was always doing things to please/pursue FY, he was never about doing good things for better world, FY was all about her career and seen him just as friend and she clearly told him and drawn the line around ep 24-26 something i don't exactly remember. All this while QZ was also pursuing her (my personal opinion: i felt due to his overly childish behavior FY never considered him and his feelings serious initially ) QZ always supported her choices from divorce to FY dream of becoming an Official, He chose to wait for her suppressing his feelings, Although FY tried to dodge away from it initially but the thing is she never rejected or drawn the line with him like she did with ZS, and we all as viewers could see that she felt something for QZ but she isn't aware herself and her being focused on her career is the major roadblock for her to accept it.
In the final arc we finally see FY accepting her feelings for QZ, but she also trusted ZS as his friend so much that she agreed for the fake marriage thing to enter the city, But what did ZS did?? he tried to take advantage of the situation, put her in house arrest, while she clearly told him that she loved Qi Zheng and despite her rejection he continuously tried to force FY to marry him by threatening her with QZs life,. HE EVEN FORCEFULLY KISSED HER i really wanted FY to slap her and put him in place but nevermind, screenwriters were on steroids. I saw many of them defending his actions stating QZ also did the same to her many times!! like what?? YES QZ forced kiss on FY several occasions but she never had a problem with it, never complained and infact reciprocated it as somewhere down the line FY had feelings for him.
And finally, i saw many comments bashing Qi zheng for getting insecure and jealous over a dead man.!! Like Seriously??? From my opinion QZ was not jealous, he was just angry at Fan yun, (he always acted pushy, childish an gentle towards FY throughout the drama even when jealous he was never angry with her....but this exact moment when Fan Yun decided to stay in the city he lashed out on her and confronted her for the first time which clearly shows he wasn't jealous but ANGRY), he expected she'd put him first over any other person and who'd not? AND his anger was justified He literally saw ZS and her beloved FY almost getting married and FY crying over ZS right in front of him when ZS jumped down the cliff and we all know Fan yun wasn't staying back just to maintain the order of the city but for the guilt that ZS could've been saved if she fed him the TEA. she clearly wanted to look over Zheng Shi's last rites and mourn him, And Qi Zheng clearly knew all that, he had every right to get angry and suspect whether her feelings for him were even true or not, FY too knew by her staying back would hurt QZs feelings yet she decided to stay even after how ZS mistreated her in this arc. WHY wouln't be QZ angry when your beloved cry over someone who liked her in front of you and is ready to neglect your feelings and after all that you've sacrificed for her just to ditch you and mourn someone else. I know it sounds selfish and petty but its human nature, we all will do and react the same if we were in QZs shoes.
Note: If there was any other actor played SML/Zheng shi role instead of Deng Wei, you all woul've bashed and bashed him all the way, but since its Deng Wei you all are OKAY with it. this shows the hypocrisy and DOUBLE STANDARDS you all have as someone's fan. For me ZS in his last arc was unacceptable and disgrace. He should've taken the tea antidote when FY rejected to serve him saying she already drank the tea with Qi Zheng and would not drink or serve anyone else but instead what Zheng SHi did?? He killed himself in front of FY knowing this will trap her in guilt as that tea was the antidote which she refused him to serve.
OVERALL, this was a messy poorly written drama with a stellar cast. don't know why i never liked a drama involving Li Yi Tong.
NOW.....where are those who were defending Miao Jing being close to her Ex stating they're just co-workers?? Constantly flirting and entertaining your ex while making ML jealous despite knowing his true feelings...boy only C-dramas FLs can get away with this without any consequences and worst part is majority of the viewers will still defend her actions......I'M DONE WITH THIS DRAMA
it was kinda necessary with how much they’ve been going back and forth between siblings and being in love
but why always FL's ex why not ML's ex (oh sorry he doesn't have one)...it would have served the same purpose. (ohh wait...audience love to see jealous ML....woah Groundbreaking trait)
You'd have problems if chen yi had girlfriends....but since its miao jing ofc you loved that.
we can assume everything for the ML here as his past is not clearly known or told to us. but my point was not directedfor this particular drama alone, im taking in general, c/k-dramas tend to follow this trait more often than not which may be pleasing or justified for few audiences but overusing it in like 90% of the dramas?? its boring and uncreative. not every drama needs to have a SML having a crush/fling/ex with FL and ML had to be a simp. for me in this drama if they decided to tone down chen yi and i'd expect the same for Miao Jing as well. This drama would've been doing fine without this trait and unnecessary inclusion of SML
How old are you watching a show where ML hasn't touched anyone until 30 years old?
don't question them bro, its a sin. afterall they're STRONG BADASS INDEPENDANT girls like their FLs, they will see whatever these dramas show them to escape far from reality. let them live in their la la land
Just finished today's episodes, and I just knew the purity talk would be going as usual. Jesus Christ, every time!…
they had exes??? she had exes. not close enough with Cen Ye?? she knew his mother's b'day date...clearly she wasn't close enough. PURITY talks??? why the hell didn't they kept the MLs character from the novel when they clearly kept FLs, just to please teen girls like you. you talk about reality?? i've never seen a jealous simping male in rl which these dramas try to show. how old are we??? girl we ain't even born we are keyboard warriors still in someone's womb. But yeah you must be 30+ matured, BADASS, STRONG etc.., just like these drama's FLs. keep living in your delusions and fantasize what you can't expect to happen in real life.
Good, stick to other showsI am genuinely baffled because using words like "sleeping around" because she…
devoted, Simp ML while FL can have multiple partners....These tropes are the fantasies of these girls which the c/k-drama creaters are fulfilling for them.....They are delusional bro....These scenarios are far from reality, they just want to escape the truth of the real world.....don't blame them, let them live in their la la land.
i can 100% tell that if ML character was kept just like the novel and had multiple exes, they would've been the first one to criticize him. just like they did to lu xixiao from never ending summer, when he tried dating that other girl in spite after Zhao Wan's betrayal. According to them Miao Jing can date because chen yi pushed her away but chen yi can't by the same logic why lu xixiao was wrong then, he was also pushed away by the FL, he should also be allowed to have multiple partners.....but NO these girls were not okay with it...WHY??? cuz they want to see a jelaous SIMP ML who is always devoted to FL but they can't digest when the role is reversed. AND now they be giving BREAKDOWNS and EXPLANATIONS as to why Miao Jing can date an Chen Yi didn't date. Fcking Double Standards
You'd have problems if chen yi had girlfriends....but since its miao jing ofc you loved that.
It's nothing major for someone to breakdown their breakup that deep. The fact is that In Novel both Leads had multiple physical relationships after their breakup but in this Drama version they had tone down the ML character and present him as the green flag, jealous simp, virgin ML to please the audience (which is majority females) and it works here. If that didn't happen nobody here would've liked the chen yi character but since its FL, various breakdowns and explanations will be given to justify that.
You can have a recent example for this as a reference.....everyone in the comments lashed out Lu Xixiao (NES) for a spite dating which he wasn't even invested in despite he was betrayed (for his own good as per FL, but the fact was for him he was betrayed for real) but since he was the ML he must remain pure, loyal, and wait for her and should also forgive and forget everything without complaints.
[In general for MLs FL is the only option but FL can have many options]
these are the same ones who lashed out Lu xixiao (NES) for a spite dating but now loving the fact that miao jing had multiple relationships. They do love a jealous simp+virgin ML
🤦🏻♀️🤣🤣 what the 💩?! so after the things he said to her and things he did and then he never…
the funny thing is if this was a case of ML having past relationships and his ex getting involved out of nowhere, you'd be the first one to degrade the ML exactly like what y'all did to Lu xi xiao (Never Ending Summer) just for a Spite dating. but since its FL (sorry BADASS FEMALE LEAD) its perfectly fine for you.
🤦🏻♀️🤣🤣 what the 💩?! so after the things he said to her and things he did and then he never…
no they will never keep a charcater similar to chen yi from the novel. cuz the audience (majority females) would never accept such a toxic character rather they would tone him down make him a jealous simp which you like to see. but yeah whatever the character is FL from novel...they will always make her male magnet, flirting, hanging out with other males, and yet you won't complain.. why? cuz she's BADASS & STRONG & INDEPENDANT !!!
🤦🏻♀️🤣🤣 what the 💩?! so after the things he said to her and things he did and then he never…
then what the fck is she doing now and getting involved with chen yi instead of finding her happiness in other men and now that she's an adult not that innocent 18 like u mentioned.....why is she back then? Happiness=Error404 or cen ye dck not big enough? and yeah you can call me 10 yo its just that i've had enough of these c&kdramas overused sml, exes, devoted+simp+virgin ML (while the FL can have past relationships- only to come back to the ML) tropes. and YES i can drop a drop a drama for whatever reason, i don't have to ask your permission for it nor i give a damn fck about your opinion. YOU GO WATCH IT....LATELY THESE DRAMAS ARE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU or rather girls like you (MAJORITY AUDIENCE PLEASING), Multiple Male getting involved with FL, doesnt give a fck about ML's Feelings, constantly making them jealous etc..,
so, cen ye is really her ex infact she dated one other guy before cen ye. don't know why but this made me uncomfortable and felt bad for chen yi. Dropping the drama for now
i don't understand why majority of them are defending zheng shi's actions while bashing Qi Zheng for his behaviour after ZS death. (well its understandable why he behaved that way)
First of all, ZS was always doing things to please/pursue FY, he was never about doing good things for better world, FY was all about her career and seen him just as friend and she clearly told him and drawn the line around ep 24-26 something i don't exactly remember. All this while QZ was also pursuing her (my personal opinion: i felt due to his overly childish behavior FY never considered him and his feelings serious initially ) QZ always supported her choices from divorce to FY dream of becoming an Official, He chose to wait for her suppressing his feelings, Although FY tried to dodge away from it initially but the thing is she never rejected or drawn the line with him like she did with ZS, and we all as viewers could see that she felt something for QZ but she isn't aware herself and her being focused on her career is the major roadblock for her to accept it.
In the final arc we finally see FY accepting her feelings for QZ, but she also trusted ZS as his friend so much that she agreed for the fake marriage thing to enter the city, But what did ZS did?? he tried to take advantage of the situation, put her in house arrest, while she clearly told him that she loved Qi Zheng and despite her rejection he continuously tried to force FY to marry him by threatening her with QZs life,. HE EVEN FORCEFULLY KISSED HER i really wanted FY to slap her and put him in place but nevermind, screenwriters were on steroids. I saw many of them defending his actions stating QZ also did the same to her many times!! like what?? YES QZ forced kiss on FY several occasions but she never had a problem with it, never complained and infact reciprocated it as somewhere down the line FY had feelings for him.
And finally, i saw many comments bashing Qi zheng for getting insecure and jealous over a dead man.!! Like Seriously???
From my opinion QZ was not jealous, he was just angry at Fan yun, (he always acted pushy, childish an gentle towards FY throughout the drama even when jealous he was never angry with her....but this exact moment when Fan Yun decided to stay in the city he lashed out on her and confronted her for the first time which clearly shows he wasn't jealous but ANGRY), he expected she'd put him first over any other person and who'd not? AND his anger was justified He literally saw ZS and her beloved FY almost getting married and FY crying over ZS right in front of him when ZS jumped down the cliff and we all know Fan yun wasn't staying back just to maintain the order of the city but for the guilt that ZS could've been saved if she fed him the TEA. she clearly wanted to look over Zheng Shi's last rites and mourn him, And Qi Zheng clearly knew all that, he had every right to get angry and suspect whether her feelings for him were even true or not, FY too knew by her staying back would hurt QZs feelings yet she decided to stay even after how ZS mistreated her in this arc. WHY wouln't be QZ angry when your beloved cry over someone who liked her in front of you and is ready to neglect your feelings and after all that you've sacrificed for her just to ditch you and mourn someone else. I know it sounds selfish and petty but its human nature, we all will do and react the same if we were in QZs shoes.
Note: If there was any other actor played SML/Zheng shi role instead of Deng Wei, you all woul've bashed and bashed him all the way, but since its Deng Wei you all are OKAY with it. this shows the hypocrisy and DOUBLE STANDARDS you all have as someone's fan. For me ZS in his last arc was unacceptable and disgrace. He should've taken the tea antidote when FY rejected to serve him saying she already drank the tea with Qi Zheng and would not drink or serve anyone else but instead what Zheng SHi did?? He killed himself in front of FY knowing this will trap her in guilt as that tea was the antidote which she refused him to serve.
OVERALL, this was a messy poorly written drama with a stellar cast. don't know why i never liked a drama involving Li Yi Tong.
RUN RUN RUN RUN and escape far from reality. GOOD LUCK.
not close enough with Cen Ye?? she knew his mother's b'day date...clearly she wasn't close enough.
PURITY talks??? why the hell didn't they kept the MLs character from the novel when they clearly kept FLs, just to please teen girls like you.
you talk about reality?? i've never seen a jealous simping male in rl which these dramas try to show.
how old are we??? girl we ain't even born we are keyboard warriors still in someone's womb. But yeah you must be 30+ matured, BADASS, STRONG etc.., just like these drama's FLs.
keep living in your delusions and fantasize what you can't expect to happen in real life.
i can 100% tell that if ML character was kept just like the novel and had multiple exes, they would've been the first one to criticize him. just like they did to lu xixiao from never ending summer, when he tried dating that other girl in spite after Zhao Wan's betrayal. According to them Miao Jing can date because chen yi pushed her away but chen yi can't by the same logic why lu xixiao was wrong then, he was also pushed away by the FL, he should also be allowed to have multiple partners.....but NO these girls were not okay with it...WHY??? cuz they want to see a jelaous SIMP ML who is always devoted to FL but they can't digest when the role is reversed. AND now they be giving BREAKDOWNS and EXPLANATIONS as to why Miao Jing can date an Chen Yi didn't date. Fcking Double Standards
You can have a recent example for this as a reference.....everyone in the comments lashed out Lu Xixiao (NES) for a spite dating which he wasn't even invested in despite he was betrayed (for his own good as per FL, but the fact was for him he was betrayed for real) but since he was the ML he must remain pure, loyal, and wait for her and should also forgive and forget everything without complaints.
[In general for MLs FL is the only option but FL can have many options]
and yeah you can call me 10 yo its just that i've had enough of these c&kdramas overused sml, exes, devoted+simp+virgin ML (while the FL can have past relationships- only to come back to the ML) tropes. and YES i can drop a drop a drama for whatever reason, i don't have to ask your permission for it nor i give a damn fck about your opinion. YOU GO WATCH IT....LATELY THESE DRAMAS ARE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU or rather girls like you (MAJORITY AUDIENCE PLEASING), Multiple Male getting involved with FL, doesnt give a fck about ML's Feelings, constantly making them jealous etc..,