I believe the lady reporter specifically said he was a zombie...same difference. They're both lifeless bloodsuckers.
You cannot be serious. Hating? Where? That's what vampires and zombies do. They feed off the living. Or is it no longer politically correct to talk about fictional monsters. :::Eyeroll:::
well i am not so sure about the cutting family ties, but it certainly does mean dishonoring her and maybe have…
Agreed. This scene reminded me of an 18th century poem called "The Rape of the Lock" (by Alexander Pope) in which a man who secretly desired a pure woman cuts off a lock of her hair and keeps it as his prized possession. "Rape" by the way, meant "theft" at that time. Anyway, in the poem, it caused a major controversy and a war of words between nobles.
Anyone else bothered by the age gap between the main lead actors?He is 20 years older than her.
Nope. Not bothered at all. Pretty common where I'm from. Even a 20 year gap between an older woman/younger man isn't unheard of. Just look at the French president.
I absolutely love Kim Min Jung as Kudo Hina! Really, she's very charismatic. Before Mr. Sunshine I saw her only…
I also really love her portrayal of Kudo Hina (this character and Dong Mae are my favorites). I was surprised when I learned the actress was Kim Min Jung because I saw her in Man to Man and thought she was a terrible actress. These types of roles are probably more suitable for her.
For those of us in the States...September 12 is the Netflix release. Finally. Though I'm sure, like me, you're finding a way to watch the series. But this is definitely something I look forward to binge watching in the coming weeks.
May i ask why you say so? How did he become selfish by exposing the truth?
Fair assessment, but I definitely disagree with the reporter being innocent. He in fact did contribute to her death. While his action are not a direct impact, his actions towards her, the stress of the situation, were factors. So based on the laws where I live, he could be looking at an involuntary manslaughter charge; not murder. Although from the get go, I never believed it murder because it doesn't fit our legal definition in California. (Yes, I'm a lawyer. And I used to be a literature/writing professor, so my analysis tends to be pretty complex yet thorough) As for our differing opinions, yes they are different. Dr. Ye, from my perspective, is not a good person. I don't believe you're wrong. You just seem to be more focused on one aspect of Dr. Ye. I'm looking at the bigger picture. Taking into consideration all of his actions since episode 1 shows me that he is more of an antagonist who puts his colleagues well-being in jeopardy. Good people can commit sin; just like bad people can have their good days. Dr. Ye is the latter of these two.
Plus, I think the actor is not doing a very good job. His acting skills are pretty bad for this role. Everyone else seems to get into their characters really well. I take that back, the actor for Dr. Joo is also quite terrible (though I loved his acting in Secret Forest aka Stranger).
May i ask why you say so? How did he become selfish by exposing the truth?
Follow up to my previous explanation: So after seeing the preview, I wonder what the sequence of events are. Did Dr. Ye's announcement of taking down Dr. Gu happen before or after his dismissal.
I don't know anything about Korean laws, so my observation is based only on my knowledge of U.S. law . Once a person is dismissed from his/her position, (s)he is immediately escorted off the premises and if (s)he refuses to leave or returns, that person can and will be arrested for trespassing.
Or perhaps I should suspend disbelief and take this for unrealistic fiction. I've never seen so many ethical violations occur without so much as a reprimand.
May i ask why you say so? How did he become selfish by exposing the truth?
My reaction was actually based on the Episode 13 preview. Regardless... Dr. Ye didn't BECOME selfish by exposing the truth. He has always been selfish since the first episode. This character is not warm-hearted; he's hot-headed and incredibly reckless with NO regard for the people he's impacting. His decisions/actions are based on his own self-interest and personal (and primary) agenda to take down Mr. Gu. Exposing a truth is just an added benefit He doesn't think about how his actions can have adverse effects on his colleagues and his patients.
I also question Dr. Ye's ethics. What kind of doctor would actually encourage grieving parents to watch their child get cut apart for an autopsy; one in which they parents initially refused to allow. Was this to save the reporter? I doubt it. The reporter isn't completely innocent, either. He violated his informant's trust. He also assaulted and battered the victim. These are charges he should face. Dr. Ye's motivation? Not for the parents' sake. Not for the reporter's. But to take down Mr. Gu and win the affections of the lady journalist.
Dr. Ye is also no different than the Deputy Director that he threatened and assaulted. Ye, too, mistreats his subordinates not physically, but verbally.
He's also quick to pass judgment on people who are open to Mr. Gu's appointment as president. Rather than try to be open or give him a chance, Ye remains bullish with that sourpuss look on his face. He also demonstrated snap judgment against the first director and No-Eul. Even his imaginary ambulatory brother is a reflection of his selfishness. He's still angry that he has a paraplegic for a brother. The flashbacks with the original director indicate this (and thus makes a lot more sense of Dr. Ye's terrible personality).
I went into this series believing that Mr. Gu was the antagonist, but clearly he is the protagonist of this series. Both he and Ye Sun Woo. They are both pro-active and adapt to changes rather than being reactive as demonstrated by Dr Ye. I also see no redeeming qualities for any of the chiefs.
I just loved the part where his parents are yelling at him for bringing the dog home. He actually looked like a sad little boy. My heart was totally melting at that point. Then again, Cho Seung Woo always makes my heart melt.
Really enjoyed the ending of episode 11. I loved everything about it, the sequence of events, the choreography, and Kudo Hina's outfit (I want that umbrella, too). I truly believe her character is much stronger than Ae-sin. Hina has experienced a thing or two in her life whereas Ae-Sin is more an idealistic, naive noble woman.
Dong Mae continues to amaze me as does Hui Seong. Those two characters are far more dynamic and I find their characters more intriguing than the top two characters. Eugene (though I love Lee Byung-Hun) still seems a bit static. Ae-Sin is just stale.
The drama is only 5 episodes in so far so nobody actually knows exactly how good or bad this drama as a whole…
I see your point, but I was lamenting on the fact that lower scores came after the subtitles. If a viewer is only relying on subtitles to get them through the drama, then they're getting very little from the series. I can see, then, why they'd find it boring because this is very dialog heavy. But if you look at the complete package, it's so much more that a viewer can appreciate the art.
Funny how the rating was at 9.4 until the English subtitles came out, and then it just plummeted to 8.6. How is it any different now that it's available in English?
I still watched the series without subtitles, and I gave the series a 10. Now that it's subtitled, I still feel the same way. I only know about 100 Korean words so I am in no way fluent. However, as I watched without subtitles, I focused more on the superb acting, character interaction, the depth of particular characters, cinematography, and the music. This is definitely a well made drama. Now that I have the subtitles to provide the storyline, I totally get it now. Although, I already had an idea of what was going on.
It's unfair to give it a lower score with the addition of subtitles. Quite honestly, I've watched each episode twice. Once reading the subtitles and once without reading to focus more on the drama. You really do miss out on a lot when you're reading most of the time. Also, Cho Seung Woo...I can watch his performance forever. I have to say *tiny spoiler* the part when they're in Mr. Koo's office and Glutton and he were looking at the intercom together...that was just 100% hotness right there.
Guys please i need your advice for this one currently i'm watching episode 3 .In episode 3 about 35 minute in…
I find the series fascinating with very few boring moments. I not only pay close attention to plot, but also character development and acting. Sometimes it's not about the show but the viewer and their expectations.
Sounds like you made up your mind about this series. Stop watching.
Yes he does and a little more emotional, too. I don't know why, but I find him more attractive when he gets pissed…
I agree. I prefer him to be the good guy, too. But I like that edge just as he was in Inside Men. Let's just say that in Life, his character does have compassion and we see more of it as the series continues.
Just look at the French president.
As for our differing opinions, yes they are different. Dr. Ye, from my perspective, is not a good person. I don't believe you're wrong. You just seem to be more focused on one aspect of Dr. Ye. I'm looking at the bigger picture. Taking into consideration all of his actions since episode 1 shows me that he is more of an antagonist who puts his colleagues well-being in jeopardy. Good people can commit sin; just like bad people can have their good days. Dr. Ye is the latter of these two.
Plus, I think the actor is not doing a very good job. His acting skills are pretty bad for this role. Everyone else seems to get into their characters really well. I take that back, the actor for Dr. Joo is also quite terrible (though I loved his acting in Secret Forest aka Stranger).
I don't know anything about Korean laws, so my observation is based only on my knowledge of U.S. law . Once a person is dismissed from his/her position, (s)he is immediately escorted off the premises and if (s)he refuses to leave or returns, that person can and will be arrested for trespassing.
Or perhaps I should suspend disbelief and take this for unrealistic fiction. I've never seen so many ethical violations occur without so much as a reprimand.
Dr. Ye didn't BECOME selfish by exposing the truth. He has always been selfish since the first episode. This character is not warm-hearted; he's hot-headed and incredibly reckless with NO regard for the people he's impacting. His decisions/actions are based on his own self-interest and personal (and primary) agenda to take down Mr. Gu. Exposing a truth is just an added benefit He doesn't think about how his actions can have adverse effects on his colleagues and his patients.
I also question Dr. Ye's ethics. What kind of doctor would actually encourage grieving parents to watch their child get cut apart for an autopsy; one in which they parents initially refused to allow. Was this to save the reporter? I doubt it. The reporter isn't completely innocent, either. He violated his informant's trust. He also assaulted and battered the victim. These are charges he should face. Dr. Ye's motivation? Not for the parents' sake. Not for the reporter's. But to take down Mr. Gu and win the affections of the lady journalist.
Dr. Ye is also no different than the Deputy Director that he threatened and assaulted. Ye, too, mistreats his subordinates not physically, but verbally.
He's also quick to pass judgment on people who are open to Mr. Gu's appointment as president. Rather than try to be open or give him a chance, Ye remains bullish with that sourpuss look on his face. He also demonstrated snap judgment against the first director and No-Eul. Even his imaginary ambulatory brother is a reflection of his selfishness. He's still angry that he has a paraplegic for a brother. The flashbacks with the original director indicate this (and thus makes a lot more sense of Dr. Ye's terrible personality).
I went into this series believing that Mr. Gu was the antagonist, but clearly he is the protagonist of this series. Both he and Ye Sun Woo. They are both pro-active and adapt to changes rather than being reactive as demonstrated by Dr Ye. I also see no redeeming qualities for any of the chiefs.
Dong Mae continues to amaze me as does Hui Seong. Those two characters are far more dynamic and I find their characters more intriguing than the top two characters. Eugene (though I love Lee Byung-Hun) still seems a bit static. Ae-Sin is just stale.
I still watched the series without subtitles, and I gave the series a 10. Now that it's subtitled, I still feel the same way. I only know about 100 Korean words so I am in no way fluent. However, as I watched without subtitles, I focused more on the superb acting, character interaction, the depth of particular characters, cinematography, and the music. This is definitely a well made drama. Now that I have the subtitles to provide the storyline, I totally get it now. Although, I already had an idea of what was going on.
It's unfair to give it a lower score with the addition of subtitles. Quite honestly, I've watched each episode twice. Once reading the subtitles and once without reading to focus more on the drama. You really do miss out on a lot when you're reading most of the time. Also, Cho Seung Woo...I can watch his performance forever. I have to say *tiny spoiler* the part when they're in Mr. Koo's office and Glutton and he were looking at the intercom together...that was just 100% hotness right there.
Sounds like you made up your mind about this series. Stop watching.
Let's just say that in Life, his character does have compassion and we see more of it as the series continues.