If you still think Earth is stiff after this episode, it probably means that you're a bad person.I don't get where…
I feel like I am one of those you are talking about that think earth is kinda stiff lolll. But yeah, I screamed for him in this episode, especially that single eye tears when he fought with Li Ming and the whole sequence of the scene. The authoritative voice he used on his nephew “you don’t raise your voice at me.” And his facial expression is so on point. I think, part of that, we have Fourth to thank for as he is a co partner actor in that scene and his acting is one of the reason that sent Earth to that point (just like how First and Mix did in the last scene)
PS. That bleached hair guy is Jack. One of his most memorable works is “Home”, a movie with 3 short stories in it and is being directed by Madeaw - the director of love of siam. He played a confusing high schooler with March Juthawut and it’s a very beautiful LGBTQ story you should check out.
I personally still don’t get it. If he already knew how to speak (no matter the dialect or tone), why would…
When it comes to tonal language, it's not about mouth forming or word stressing. It doesn't have to do with whether you speak louder or softer. It's the intonation marks or tone marks that matters. I will give you an example here. All are formed the same when it comes to mouth shape but with different intonation marks on it. All has way different meanings.
- ปา - To Throw (V.) (Pa - neutral tone. You don't go up or down or soft or strong on this, just neutral tone without any stressing. If you put even a slight tone on it, the meaning change to the second word.)
- ป่า - Forest (N.) (Pa - very slightly up tone from the first word. We call it second intonation mark. You can't go neutral with this word but can't also just stressing too much or the meaning will be the third word)
- ป้า - Aunt (N.) (Pa - very slightly up tone from the second word. We call it third intonation mark. You can't go higher pitch or lower pitch or the meaning changed.)
- ป๊า - Dad (N.) (Pa - very slightly down tone from the third word, but in a different sound of the second word. We call it fourth intonation mark.)
- ป๋า - Daddy, people who likes to pay for everything and treats people with their money (N. / Slang) (Pa - very low tone. We call it fifth intonation mark. You can mess up between the fourth word and this one if you want to say Dad. However, if you want to use this word as a slang, you can't just miss the tone.)
You can see that these 5 words just form the same mouth shape. It also doesn't matter if you shout or speak silently since it's the intonation that matters. Every word has its own meaning.
Tonal languages are very different from those non-tonal languages. For example, in English, each word is just the matter of stressing but you will still understand even if someone stress it wrongly. However, for tonal languages, things will just go wrong. You will not understand anything at all if you don't know the intonation of that word.
This is why if you can't hear yourself speaking, you can't also use your instinct to speak the word since mouth shape can't be counted. Think of it this way, even those professional singers need In-Ear Monitor to aid the hearing on stage so they know they are singing the right pitch. Tonal languages are the same, if you can't hear, you go wrong with the pitch, no matter how perfect you are at the language.
PS. Thai language has 5 intonation marks on more than 70% of the words.
This keeps popping up in the feeds and people are loving it. So I decided to give it a go, but I really do not…
You will need around 2 episodes to adjust yourself in, or at least that was what happened to me. Give yourself 2 - 3 episodes and then evaluate if you like it by then. If yes, you will totally fall in love with it in no time, but if the answer is 'no' then you can stop there at that point.
P'Aof explained the reason why Heart stops speaking in yesterday twitter space. He said the team had done intensive research on this and been consulted with the deaf caregiver. The deaf can't hear their own voice, they are not confident to talk at all since they don't know whether their pronunciation is right or wrong, especially to a tonal languages like Thai. In no time, they will just stop speaking completely.
It's the fact when you know Thai language has 5 tones. A single same word for foreigners could have like 5 different meanings for Thai since each tone represents completely different meaning. If I couldn't hear my voice while speaking, I would also go mute all the way since I wouldn't know what I speak is what I really want to tell or not.
It makes no sense that Heart doesn't talk. If he lost his hearing only a few years ago, then he should be able…
Don't judge yet. According to the official trailer, Heart is speaking! It clearly is Gemini's voice speaking 'Once we found our true shelter, we don't want to leave to anywhere.' or something like that.
I believe there's a strong reason why he just doesn't want to speak and it could be something related to his parents. I believe he can speak, he just choose not to.
The more I watch Fourth & Gemini, the more I like them. They radiate some sort of comforting vibes and it makes…
I’m with you on this. Will be the first ship ever that I’m sticking my feet in very tight. Before GeminiFourth, I only admire Nanon for being superb actor but now these 2 can live in my heart rent free.
There must be something in HeartLiMing relationship, interaction and development that is so magical that it manages to warm my heart and soul and makes my eyes teary from the warmness, yet tiny expression they both have in every episode ‘til now. Their storyline is so touching without having to be complicated at all. I’m so moved. My tears just dropped for no reason on the Krathong scene of HeartLiMing and I still don’t understand why. It’s that powerful.
Fourth, Gemini and Mix delivered all the raw emotions this episode. When the awards season come, I would totally be surprised if I don’t see these names among the nominators or even an award winner. They just deliver everything flawlessly.
Alan appeared for the first time and made me feel frustrated. I think HeartLiMing will be my only safe zone in MC from here onwards.
I am trying to find the explanation why TinnGun love is just so believable and relatable that all of us are going crazy over them. I think part of that is because how they have been crafting their relationship in the way I could rarely find in any BLs.
We do know that the one who falls first will just be falling deeper and harder in most of the relationships, but it's always difficult for me to picture the reciprocated one to also fall in love back at the same level with the one who falls first. Most of the time is because the series couldn't really establish a strong reason for the reciprocated ones to really make me believe that they would be able to fall that hard and hold e/o hands that tight for things to come in the future. But with TinnGun, I think the scriptwriters are very clever to pave their relationship the way it is now and then make Gun realized in EP10 how much Tinn has done for him in a non-cringey way possible by letting mama tell him everything. The fact that the scriptwriters have never tried to hide the things Tinn did for Gun for the whole 10 episodes long could already convince me that Tinn is really falling for Gun and will be Gun's number 1 supporter forever. It's very cleaver that they didn't just go the typical route by hiding all of those from us the audience and then come surprising us in the later episode like we normally see in other BLs or dramas. Doing that could make big impact when we find out, but there would also be no time for us to feel the love and the support one has for another this well.
I think this is very convincing to me to believe that Gun will just fall harder than ever to Tinn after knowing all of that and I feel very secure in these fictional characters' relationship deep down in my heart that if someone told me they are together 'til the world end, even when these 2 are only in high school and it's a high school love, I would still buy that theory without a doubt 'cause their loves are being established with a super strong bonding that I could really picture them holding e/o hands to the very end. And I think this is what make TinnGun's love special.
Sorry, didn't mean to come up with an essay. Just feel like wanting to write something that I've been thinking about just to kill the time while waiting for EP11. lolll
I keep torturing myself by rewatching ep10 over and over again….
I think it might be a good time to revisit ep4, ep6 and ep8 now to heal my heart and give my eyes some rest. Though EP10 is sooo beautifully made and it’s by no mean a sad episode, but I can’t really get through part 2 and 4 without crying bucket of tears so yeah…l consider it’s a tortured episode…a very beautiful one.
Both are good, and I honestly like them both. But after episode 10 of MSP, I can see that it will be above Bad…
Totally agreed. I think part of that is because the way the story developed. These 2 series are way different in term of that because BBS's core issue is something beyond the storyline of PatPran (It's the Pran's mom and Pat's dad issue) while MSP's core is never a thing not relating to TinGunn. I think it should be easier to develop a plot for MSP than BBS. Though being easy like MSP almost means they are taking all the risks and certainty of making it a flop but they are just perfect at doing everything right so far.
If there's one complaint I have regarding this episode, it would be the scene just before gun comes to know about…
On my second rewatch, I feel like Gun suspecting something. This scene is after the scene Tinn fed him in the club room and was about to tell him about his mom. Back then, Gun even sighed and said he thought it was something serious about his mom. I think Gun always suspected something is wrong with his mom health condition that it made him feel concerned but he just didn't speak out directly.
Moreover, Gun knows Tinn is with his mom for the whole week. I believe Gun knows that the errand Tin is talking about is something surfacing around his mom but he also knows it's useless to pressure Tinn to speak so he acts like he is sulking in return and in protest. Gun wouldn't act like that if he knows it really is Tinn business and is not about him.
I quite sure about this after I watched it for the second time. Gun shows his expression clearly but the first time we watched, we were just too carried away by the worries we have on mommy Gim's condition.
We don't talk about Tinn much! He's such a wholesome character. Everything about him is admirable. I love his…
We don't talk about him much but we truly adore him more than any word could express our feelings lol. Actually, we adore everything and everyone in this series, the unseen buffalo P'Yak mentioned last episode is included.
😂😂i feel the same. Still thinking about the episode
I dont even know how could they do this and I’m not trying to find the reason behind the best episode week after week anymore. I just know that this will need to be put in a filming class so those soon to be scriptwriters or directors could learn from the series on how to do things right and never go wrong like ever at all.
PS. That bleached hair guy is Jack. One of his most memorable works is “Home”, a movie with 3 short stories in it and is being directed by Madeaw - the director of love of siam. He played a confusing high schooler with March Juthawut and it’s a very beautiful LGBTQ story you should check out.
- ปา - To Throw (V.) (Pa - neutral tone. You don't go up or down or soft or strong on this, just neutral tone without any stressing. If you put even a slight tone on it, the meaning change to the second word.)
- ป่า - Forest (N.) (Pa - very slightly up tone from the first word. We call it second intonation mark. You can't go neutral with this word but can't also just stressing too much or the meaning will be the third word)
- ป้า - Aunt (N.) (Pa - very slightly up tone from the second word. We call it third intonation mark. You can't go higher pitch or lower pitch or the meaning changed.)
- ป๊า - Dad (N.) (Pa - very slightly down tone from the third word, but in a different sound of the second word. We call it fourth intonation mark.)
- ป๋า - Daddy, people who likes to pay for everything and treats people with their money (N. / Slang) (Pa - very low tone. We call it fifth intonation mark. You can mess up between the fourth word and this one if you want to say Dad. However, if you want to use this word as a slang, you can't just miss the tone.)
You can see that these 5 words just form the same mouth shape. It also doesn't matter if you shout or speak silently since it's the intonation that matters. Every word has its own meaning.
Tonal languages are very different from those non-tonal languages. For example, in English, each word is just the matter of stressing but you will still understand even if someone stress it wrongly. However, for tonal languages, things will just go wrong. You will not understand anything at all if you don't know the intonation of that word.
This is why if you can't hear yourself speaking, you can't also use your instinct to speak the word since mouth shape can't be counted. Think of it this way, even those professional singers need In-Ear Monitor to aid the hearing on stage so they know they are singing the right pitch. Tonal languages are the same, if you can't hear, you go wrong with the pitch, no matter how perfect you are at the language.
PS. Thai language has 5 intonation marks on more than 70% of the words.
It's the fact when you know Thai language has 5 tones. A single same word for foreigners could have like 5 different meanings for Thai since each tone represents completely different meaning. If I couldn't hear my voice while speaking, I would also go mute all the way since I wouldn't know what I speak is what I really want to tell or not.
Mannnn, goosebump all over my body….
Will be back…can barely see…
I believe there's a strong reason why he just doesn't want to speak and it could be something related to his parents. I believe he can speak, he just choose not to.
Fourth, Gemini and Mix delivered all the raw emotions this episode. When the awards season come, I would totally be surprised if I don’t see these names among the nominators or even an award winner. They just deliver everything flawlessly.
Alan appeared for the first time and made me feel frustrated. I think HeartLiMing will be my only safe zone in MC from here onwards.
We do know that the one who falls first will just be falling deeper and harder in most of the relationships, but it's always difficult for me to picture the reciprocated one to also fall in love back at the same level with the one who falls first. Most of the time is because the series couldn't really establish a strong reason for the reciprocated ones to really make me believe that they would be able to fall that hard and hold e/o hands that tight for things to come in the future. But with TinnGun, I think the scriptwriters are very clever to pave their relationship the way it is now and then make Gun realized in EP10 how much Tinn has done for him in a non-cringey way possible by letting mama tell him everything. The fact that the scriptwriters have never tried to hide the things Tinn did for Gun for the whole 10 episodes long could already convince me that Tinn is really falling for Gun and will be Gun's number 1 supporter forever. It's very cleaver that they didn't just go the typical route by hiding all of those from us the audience and then come surprising us in the later episode like we normally see in other BLs or dramas. Doing that could make big impact when we find out, but there would also be no time for us to feel the love and the support one has for another this well.
I think this is very convincing to me to believe that Gun will just fall harder than ever to Tinn after knowing all of that and I feel very secure in these fictional characters' relationship deep down in my heart that if someone told me they are together 'til the world end, even when these 2 are only in high school and it's a high school love, I would still buy that theory without a doubt 'cause their loves are being established with a super strong bonding that I could really picture them holding e/o hands to the very end. And I think this is what make TinnGun's love special.
Sorry, didn't mean to come up with an essay. Just feel like wanting to write something that I've been thinking about just to kill the time while waiting for EP11. lolll
I think it might be a good time to revisit ep4, ep6 and ep8 now to heal my heart and give my eyes some rest. Though EP10 is sooo beautifully made and it’s by no mean a sad episode, but I can’t really get through part 2 and 4 without crying bucket of tears so yeah…l consider it’s a tortured episode…a very beautiful one.
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Next Friday, EP11.
"My school president"
PS. It's what Gun said in the preview of EP11. I don't know what's the official subtitle for this but it's the same line.
Moreover, Gun knows Tinn is with his mom for the whole week. I believe Gun knows that the errand Tin is talking about is something surfacing around his mom but he also knows it's useless to pressure Tinn to speak so he acts like he is sulking in return and in protest. Gun wouldn't act like that if he knows it really is Tinn business and is not about him.
I quite sure about this after I watched it for the second time. Gun shows his expression clearly but the first time we watched, we were just too carried away by the worries we have on mommy Gim's condition.