We ALL are different people now. Does it mean that we bullied others when we were in the middle school? Hello.…
There are so many things wrong with what you just said that I can't find it in myself to waste thirty minutes debunking half of it. "If he was a delivery boy or a pizza maker, he would have lived the rest of his life without anyone knowing." -- Again reinforcing the point that because he's famous it's differential treatment. Yes, so because he's famous he's being treated differently than a normal person. Also reinforcing that there's obviously a separate motive here, it was thirteen years ago and doesn't reflect his current behavior.
The Hitler Youth was never classified as an organization and even though members were suspected of war crimes were never and will never be prosecuted specifically because they were young. Perfect way to completely destroy your entire comparison of war crimes to middle school bullying. You're so fundamentally ignorant that it's even leaking into your subjective views. You admitted yourself that people change yet you're being unreasonably vindictive and biased towards someone whom you've had literally no contact with. If all victims are to believed then why are all of the words he said in his apology flying over your head as you claim he hasn't changed. False accusations can make him the victim, his opinion means nothing?
Last paragraph is just cringe, this isn't a kdrama.
We ALL are different people now. Does it mean that we bullied others when we were in the middle school? Hello.…
Because Nazi collaborators were responsible for the deaths of millions of people, please don't tell me you're seriously trying to compare the slaughter of millions of Jewish people to a kid bullying someone in Middle School. But now you're also saying that because he was a bully in Middle School that he shouldn't have the right to work for fame, money, and earn respect? If he's such a terrible person then how did he achieve these things? I agree that he should have been held accountable for his actions, THIRTEEN years ago. If you're going to start holding everyone accountable for what they did 13yrs ago, I guess all those boogers I ate as a kid are going to come back to haunt me. No, but seriously you would hold any of your peers accountable for what they did in Middle School? I mean, maybe you're closer to Middle School than I am, but that's a long time ago for me. Your friends, your family? It just seems unrealistic and unfair to assume that he hasn't changed and that he doesn't deserve everything he's worked for because he was a bad kid.
We ALL are different people now. Does it mean that we bullied others when we were in the middle school? Hello.…
That's a good point, but you're saying that under the assumption that he felt sorry after 10yrs for something he did in Middle School. I'm sure like he said he regrets the decisions he made but why stir up not only bad memories for himself but also possibly for the victims? How could he have garunteed that they still habored anger and hadn't moved on. Like I said as of now the sexual assault and coercion has no proof of any kind behind it last time I saw. The only claims with any leg to stand on were the bullying which he apologized for. If he's still like this then why has no one brought any new allegations of harrasment up? Now would be a perfect time...
Has there been any actual proof behind these claims of sexual assault? The only mention remotely to an actual…
Sure when the Victim has proof and displays their identity so their claims can be proven as legitimate. You also have to realize that this dude is a celebrity and crazy people will literally just make stuff up for attention. The only person with any actual proof they went to the same school is the person who claims he was a bully. Also not exactly certain if he was even made aware of the sexual assault claims because a lot of articles either don't mention it or do in a sentence or two, because it could literally just be a lie
We ALL are different people now. Does it mean that we bullied others when we were in the middle school? Hello.…
Okay, you just said we're ALL different people now, so then how does what this guy did in Middle School reflect what he's like now? You're contradicting yourself... What's there to make everyone aware of after this guy has doubled in age? "He was mean when he was in middle school everyone watch out!"
But Park Shi Hoo is ok for his comeback, and Park Yoochun. Smfh
I haven't seen anyone make claims of actions like these recently. You would think if he did then people would obviously use the topic at hand to reinforce their claims. But I haven't read anything so far. You would seriously hold a person who has almost doubled in age accountable for what they did in middle school? That's ridiculous... I assume if you found out one of your friends was a bully in middle school then you would block them and remove them from your life? If not, why is this dude held at such a high standard? He's a human just like you and me, we've all made mistakes, just because he's on TV he has to be a perfect human? That's just unfair.
Can you honestly say that you're anything like you were 13yrs ago? I think it's a little extreme to blame anyone…
No don't get me wrong, I in no way condone bullying at all. Actions should have been taken 13yrs ago 100%, super disappointing that bullying is still somewhat common even today online and in person. But I find it kind of unfair to hold any adult who has almost doubled in age at such a high standard for what they did as a kid and that no one else would realistically be held at. Actions should have been taken when he was still a kid, but if he has grown as a person and he's no longer like this (no one has made the claim he still is) then everyone should move on. Like another user said the claims seem to be made in bad intentions what else could be the reasons to bring this up 13yrs later.
I can look past bullying, but looking past sexual assault is a whole different thing
Has there been any actual proof behind these claims of sexual assault? The only mention remotely to an actual person I saw was literally just referring to claims from a random internet user, and no sort of criminal charges or proof was provided.
Having been a victim of emotional and physical abuse and bullying during my school years due to the fact that…
One hundred percent agree, how can you try to hold someone accountable for what they did in Middle School more than a decade ago. You make a new friend in college, you do a background check to make sure they weren't a bully in Middle School? Lol
His actions are inexcusable, especially with the level of abuse he inflicted on those around him. I can't imagine…
Can you honestly say that you're anything like you were 13yrs ago? I think it's a little extreme to blame anyone for who they were more than a decade ago and in Middle School, I personally can't speak for his behavior, but considering I haven't seen anyone say that he's done any of these things remotely recently I would hopefully say he grew as a person. Sexual Assault allegation aside considering it's a one off claim with zero proof, is what he did that irredeemable thirteen years later? Unless actual proof comes out backing up the sexual assault claim it seems cruel and extreme to hold this dude to such a high standard you wouldn't hold any non-celebrity to. I can say that I was such an entirely different person in Middle School I look back and find it hard I'm even the same person.
have you read the allegations? they're of sexual assault, cohersion into bullying, and physical violence. If you…
Yeah I would assume that the Sexual assault allegations have no current basis of validity or else that would've been a more striking point than the one sentence that's above. Not sure if whoever reported this information took into account that people could literally be making stuff up, or making wild accusations with zero proof at all. As far as I can see the only one with any actual proof they went to the same school is for bullying. So we'll have to see if any actual proof for the allegation comes out. You would think he would dispute that claim if it was even brought to his attention, seems he's only apologizing for the bullying. So I guess it's probably just a troll or fake claim. I doubt that sexual assault allegations wouldn't be taken seriously even thirty years ago unless there was some type of power manipulation with rich/politician parents, even that's a little unrealistic.
have you read the allegations? they're of sexual assault, cohersion into bullying, and physical violence. If you…
Sure, why didn't they do anything thirteen years ago if this stuff happened? I can understand letting some actions go by, but sexual assault? Who would sweep that under the rug? Like I said it sounds like an attention grab, and without proof I'm gonna have to say innocent until proven guilty. Why wait thirteen years?
I said this before, and I'll repeat it again even if what they said is true I don't believe someone should be…
Yeah I mean, I guess if this was something that happened within hell even the last five years it would maybe be worth caring about... But 13yrs ago? Cmon...
In middle school? Really? Trying to smear this guy thirteen years later is a little insane to me. Is there any proof he's still like this now? Personally I am an entirely different person than I was in middle school. This seems like a grab at attention from whoever's complaining about this now, why wait thirteen years and after another big star has already been exposed for something similar to do so otherwise? I guess you could make the argument that they felt the courage to come forward now, but this allegedly lasted for two years thirteen years ago... Unless this person was beaten senseless and put in the hospital and has like long lasting injuries or something I just don't get it. Absurd that anyone would actually get offended or judge this guy as an adult now for what he probably doesn't even remember.
The Hitler Youth was never classified as an organization and even though members were suspected of war crimes were never and will never be prosecuted specifically because they were young. Perfect way to completely destroy your entire comparison of war crimes to middle school bullying. You're so fundamentally ignorant that it's even leaking into your subjective views. You admitted yourself that people change yet you're being unreasonably vindictive and biased towards someone whom you've had literally no contact with. If all victims are to believed then why are all of the words he said in his apology flying over your head as you claim he hasn't changed. False accusations can make him the victim, his opinion means nothing?
Last paragraph is just cringe, this isn't a kdrama.