To be honest, I think the experts are doing fine and idk why people are so furious about it every week. The groups…
Sorry if I sounded rude or something :( not my intention, it turned out as a rant because I got a lot of ideas to write, it wasn't directed to you or anything... just in general because I see a lot of people complaining about the experts.
I hate that they keep comparing TBZ journey to RTK as well, I hope they take it easy for the next rounds and have fun!
To be honest, I think the experts are doing fine and idk why people are so furious about it every week. The groups…
Just to keep my thoughts... If your favorite team is the favorite team of all judges and my favorite team is the third favorite of all judges, they will have the same score.
So, if a team places fourth place for all the judges, they will have the same score as a team that placed last for all judges. The rank is silly, not the opinion of the judges.
The most fair solution would be to make everybody rank everyone and add scores based on their individual ranks.
To be honest, I think the experts are doing fine and idk why people are so furious about it every week. The groups read the reasons behind their votes for round 1 and agreed with them. All the comments made they push to be better and this round has excellent performances, the groups reflected on it.
It's super hard to rank performances even for us that are watching and have our biased opinions.
Considering the judges have to choose 3 of the 6 teams only, for 3 to be in the higher ranks, 3 will need to be out of them.. it isn't that easy to have an agreement and a consensus. I think we have to just understand that everything is a question of taste and view, the judges are as different as us, who also watch, choose and vote. Me and you, we are probably voting for different teams and that's fine, so, if the respect can happen between us that are fandom, idk why it's so hard to accept the way the judges are voting, see!?
The most important part is that the show continues to give the judges feedbacks to the groups and the judges to be released after the show ends as they promised.
I was already mad at Mnet because of the budget debacle at the beginning, and don't even get me started on the…
To be honest, no one would even notice his mistake if it wasn't so accentuated like that in the show. It was so fast recovered and in character... I hate Mnet for the way they deal with mistakes, since RTK is like that and Produce Series as well. They will never not highlight their missing steps.
hmm..... But some groups have a small fandom but they're literally 2nd and 3rd in fan voting... Thats due to viewers…
yes! fandoms voted for face to face round, it was in february and people still didn't know the vote was happening. mnet aired a live streaming with the performances only and made us vote for 3 groups. we couldn't rewatch the performances via official ways or repost by that time, so, many people missed it.
hmm..... But some groups have a small fandom but they're literally 2nd and 3rd in fan voting... Thats due to viewers…
ateez and tbz actually place low because people probably avoided voting for them (or choose to vote for the other teams) because of their high ranks for judges and self-evaluation, that's why i said fandoms are choosing what is best for them and not what they like the most. one fandom has a big gap in voters, i'm sure the way they vote is being decisive for popular votes.
Which performance? The one where they perform each other’s song? Not a fan of sf9 but i think they deserves…
aranita was refering to the final rankings for 1st round, where they performed their own songs: wonderland, god's menu, no air, jealous, etc.
it was released by the end of ep.4 the final rankings for popular vote and views for that round, but they didn't reveal any numbers yet, those numbers will be counted together with judges votes and self-evaluation. aranita did a prediction considering the % value.
a new popular vote round will start after ep.5 is released. pay attention on whosfan!
honestly the rankings are just... weird?? I'm not blaming anyone here cause I understand where all this is coming…
the popular voting system is messy, because fandoms need to vote for three groups, so, every fandom chooses what's best to vote at that time, they will not vote for those they liked the most ><
I was excited for this week's performances but having seen the preview they all just look the same lol. I was…
they will not choose to do fresh concept when they know nobody will do it too... sf9 even discussed doing giddy up and bloom bloom, but, the stealer was right there hahaha i'm hoping for a week that kinda suggests them all to try that vibe, so, they will not be out of place
Ahaha, I feel like this is only me, but I honestly feel that it's funny how every time the camera switches from…
ahhh that's unfortunate, connecting with the groups is important! i particulary think the behind videos of the performances are doing a great job portraying the groups, so, i think it's question of time for you to fully connect with them. try to listen to some of their music and watch fandom compilations on youtube and think less about how you aren't connecting while you watch the show, so, you'll feel better about it. i know kingdom will air a filler episode where the groups do a game day, so, you'll probably get into them better when it airs.
Im a casual fan of all of the groups on this show but I don’t stan any of them. Should I still watch this? Are…
The performances are watchable on youtube, you can watch and see if you'd like to know some behind the scene info about it, because that's the main difference of watching the show. In Kingdom the groups usually have a whole process behind their performance, and talk more about the storyline and we discover how they got into the concept... it's really fun to me to know about it, because the performances get richer. As a casual fan, if you like the format, you can also enjoy interactions and jokes, getting to know the groups better.
there is no voting this week yet! but views in the full versions of the performances will count for their avaliation! the voting will happen in an app called whosfan, please download it and be ready to vote :D
just a general warning for everyone watching kingdom:
look out for instructions on how to vote and help your favorite groups! there is a very simple app vote after the rounds and every view in their full performances count as votes :)
the fact that ppl don’t like how healthy jojo and hye yeong are shows who they truly are, and the fact ppl found…
I'm really worried about people's ideal of relationship considering how upset they got about the ending. I undrstand expectations, but watching the show should be enough proof that she did the best for herself and in the process, she found pure love as well.
Reading the comments about the ending of Love Alarm makes me worry about what people think is healthy in a relationship. I understand people who prefer Sun-oh, the ones that wanted them to resolve things and get back together, also understand the ones that received the spoiler and disliked the idea of Jojo's choice, buuuuut when finally watching the episodes I think she made the best for herself, Sun-oh only tried to understand her by the end when he also blamed himself and their immaturity dealing with their past. It's all a question of choice after all, right? In the beggining, HY and Sun-oh wanted to fight for her and see who she would choose in between them. But let me tell you something more about Love Alarm, at least for me, what always got me scared about that universe was the idea of people taking Love Alarm by rule and too seriously, just as they mentioned in the drama, to the point people used that as a way of telling "I love you"! no one was willing to choose for themselves, they were just obbeying the app, Sun-oh tells it to Jojo "I shoudn't have believed the Love Alarm" and that's it; using the shield was Jojo's only way to keep Sun-oh away from her. So, to me, an ending that tells people that even if you feel the pressure of loving someone with your heart, it's still in your hands to feel your own feelings and choose your happy ending isn't a bad ending. In Jojo's case, in the past she made a painful choice of leaving Sun-oh behind, that she questioned a lot, but in the end, but she accepted her mistake and was still trying to get rid of the shield because she felt that it was unfair to HY to keep his hope about sounding his Love Alarm. She was lucky that when she realized she was loving HY, she was already in love with him by the Love Alarm as well, but Sun-oh ending shows that sometimes we are willing to love the ones who love us too! So, for the future, when there is an app that shows you who loves you, consider your options, ok? You matter.
I hate that they keep comparing TBZ journey to RTK as well, I hope they take it easy for the next rounds and have fun!
So, if a team places fourth place for all the judges, they will have the same score as a team that placed last for all judges. The rank is silly, not the opinion of the judges.
The most fair solution would be to make everybody rank everyone and add scores based on their individual ranks.
It's super hard to rank performances even for us that are watching and have our biased opinions.
Considering the judges have to choose 3 of the 6 teams only, for 3 to be in the higher ranks, 3 will need to be out of them.. it isn't that easy to have an agreement and a consensus. I think we have to just understand that everything is a question of taste and view, the judges are as different as us, who also watch, choose and vote. Me and you, we are probably voting for different teams and that's fine, so, if the respect can happen between us that are fandom, idk why it's so hard to accept the way the judges are voting, see!?
The most important part is that the show continues to give the judges feedbacks to the groups and the judges to be released after the show ends as they promised.
it was released by the end of ep.4 the final rankings for popular vote and views for that round, but they didn't reveal any numbers yet, those numbers will be counted together with judges votes and self-evaluation. aranita did a prediction considering the % value.
a new popular vote round will start after ep.5 is released. pay attention on whosfan!
but views in the full versions of the performances will count for their avaliation!
the voting will happen in an app called whosfan, please download it and be ready to vote :D
look out for instructions on how to vote and help your favorite groups! there is a very simple app vote after the rounds and every view in their full performances count as votes :)
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