Mad Marti

@Dedra70 I was mad at the nurse for telling CLD that Mong-Woo was a female. It wasn't necessary. I thought her tongue should be taken out. :-)
But if she tells what will happen?
To dress up is a crime... The king won't be able to handle that.
Who offered CLD the poison pill? The Queen-Dowager or the King?

It is just something people think. It is never mentioned in the episodes. We only know she slept with the king

Did I see correctly in the preview that Kim Myung-Ha wants to help PJH, the General Director?
I don't trust Kim Myung-Ha.
If he discovers that Kang Mong-Woo and the king are an item he will betray her.

I completely agree

Hahahaha 😄 🤣
I don't completely agree, but I enjoyed your ranting... funny 😄

Yes, I agree. Also with your former arguments.
The reason I said that it to be returned to Mong Woo was simple. Only he and Mong Woo knew where the stone came from. Not Sang Hwa. That was why I believed it to be given back to Mong Woo.
Now we have another problem. How will the King protect Mong Woo this time. He told Sang Hwa in episode 7 that even if Mong Woo plotted treason he would protect him. With the words:"to me a treacherous thought is loyalty".
Up until now the script is fairly consistent. What did this imply?
He would protect her at all costs? In episode 11 he tells her that he might hurt her in the future because he is the King and being the King would mean taking measures that would hurt her.
So what will happen now? She plotted his death.

The fl frustrates me especially since she can't see why the King said those words to the Principal Director.
But your arguments are valid. I understand now that she doesn't know what is true and what is false.
But still how come she believes the stupid arguments of the one eyed guy Chu.
Why would you believe what the Qing said? They only did this to make him confess.
And the stupid arguments of MW. His father wanted to kill the ing and dispose of him with false accusations. It was right for the King to kill him. He is wrong and I think he distorts the truth because he is jealous.
That is also the reason I find her stupid...

For the first time the fl started to ask the right questions.
The conclusions of mr chu (one eyed) guy doesn't make sense.
A guy in a bad situation comes to power meaning he is a spy?
Are you kidding me.
The lightning in the tree is a bad omen but for whom?
1) At that moment the king embraced mong woo.
Does it mean it is bad to trust her, she will kill him or bring him down?
2) Will all people involved in the death of the former king be punished?
Who will the heavens punish?

Another theory very farfetched.
Inside the tree a flower blossoms indicating new life. ;-)
A new beginning....

What does this mean... total viewers, the ratings?

He was telling him to save Mong Woo, because Sang Hwa told him later that she was dead. If it was the stream he wouldn't have known.

Zeroldman I totally agree with your analysis.
And your question about the king not wanting apparently to know more and talk more.
I was surprised too, but then two scenarios came to my mind
1) he is so smitten... he lost his perspective and didn't want to ruin this night
2) he already knows more (or intends to find out on his own.
I hope the last one to be true, but I fear the 1st one is the case if I look at the last 2 episodes.

Totally agree

Dethrone the king? What will happen to the country.. chaos..
The young prince is not ready. The dowager might seize power.
One tiny little braincell should tell her the scenario that would unfold.
Still don't get her, but ... I was completely captivated :-) by the last episodes.

I find her motivation for revenge flimsy.
Ok, she hoped he would save her, but he couldn't at that moment since she was the request of the brother of her friend in the whorehouse. He helped the king by betraying the minister of war, but as a tradeoff the King had to punish Mongwoo and his sister.
He didn't sentence her himself the justice department did this.
At that moment his position wasn't stable. Too many backstabbers.
He did kill the minister of war but the minister of war wanted him dead.
Kim, the son of the minister of war, wrote the letter to condemn him.
But she started all of this by appearing as the baduk player before the inquisition.
Didn't she have any brains in her head? Did she really think she could solve the problem by showing her face?
In those days people knew that interrogation was not only done by talking.

She claimed he was a "degeneré", drinking and sleeping around.
Then she said he killed the old king (who gave her this information) and now he is responsible for what happened to her father?
She works with Chu (the spy). He knows her father gave him the letter for the Ming. Why does she think the king is responsible for her dad?
It doesn't make sense. Is a woman scorned a stupid woman?

Lastly, I think she confessed to him, because of the advise of the whoremadam. "Follow your heart and you will discover that love doesn't exist in the end."
Thus to free herself of her emotions.
Someone mentioned it was a strategic move on her part. If that is true than she showed for the 1st time to have some brains.
At this moment I am not a fan of her. I want a smart fl.

I'll help you.
I only saw him in AOS and thought he wasn't very good. I wasn't impressed by his acting skills.
This isn't a positive remark. Do you think they will delete it?
Btw my opinion of him is sincere. I truly wasn't impressed by his acting skill in AOS. I thought others were way better than him.
But.... he might improve.

If your mother mistreats your wife and you know it ( he admitted this) and you still let it happen it isn't love. Why didn't he tell his mother to back 9f or even live with his wife somewhere else.

Isn't it strange that a daugher-in-law can boss the lady in the house around?
If this a typical kdrama where the grandmother is the boss and the wife of her son her daughter-in-law who she can bully? How come that the granddaughter-in-law can bully the wife of the father? What kind of life did the father give his wife?

His so-called friend who said that "he is the only one who can solve this issue" is not a great friend. He already had solved the issue by leaving. Saying this implies that he needs to give in. As a friend he had to support him in his decision. But if you look at his behaviour towards his wife (stepsister of ml) I understand that he will throw him under the bus. He is a coward anyway.
Btw didn't this so-called friend pushed him into going to the grandmother's birthday? If he hadn't come the grandmother couldn't have sprung the one-sided engagement during this event. So he was the cause of the conflict.

I got really upset when he kneeled in front of his step-grandmother. She treated his mom terrible and his mom is his downfall with her attitude "I can't live if I can't see you anymore ".
Because of her he succumbed... that is not love what the mother did. That is the worst form of blackmail. In the meantime she lives like a beggar in that house. The stepdad doesn't love his wife. If he did he wouldn't have his mother treated his wife in such a despicable way.
The daugher in law treats his mother like garbage too. The mother didn't even tell them off. No... the divorce is because her son broke his ties with this despicable family. And the friend who is married to his stepsister is also bad putting the blame on him. What kind of friend is this?

Now the fl lead's family. The brother who sponges of his sister dares to tell her to get an abortion because she is a sinner and shouldn't disappoint her mother. What a b....sh.t. Total cr@p! I wanted to kick him. Hypocrite! Sponge! Worthless human being!

The 2nd fl is a liar and a manipulator! But if you see her mom you know where she comes from. Still it doesn't make it right what she does.

The school that kicked the fl lead out... what a bunch of .... (no words). Also why keep very personal stuff at your workplace?

The fl needs to tell her ex. Even if they broke up he needs to know.

Lastly:
No-one ever put passwords on their laptops?

I agree, it was the wrong choice