Here's a fanmade, fan-dubbed 45 minute version of this story for anyone interested in knowing what it's about. Beware of spoilers as it tell the entire storyline. There's english subtitles, but I think it's machine translated. Since it uses existing dramas, suspend your knowledge about those drama to understand this story.
This fanmade drama stars Liu Shishi, Xiao Zhan, Liu Haoran, and Cheng Yi as the main characters.
I tried watching this again. It's kind of a cute drama but I really hate zombies--they're so ridiculously dumb!…
It's been three days so your problem may be resolved already, but if it isn't, . . . The zombies should only be there for a few episodes (I think episode three is the end of the zombie arc). As for your trouble with viki, have you try watching this drama in another website? I'm pretty sure it's on youtube and subbed.
Lady, it might be too extreme to say others look down on WL because it isn't like that. He can be 30 or 40 but…
First off, I was just listing actresses that are around Wu Lei age and those who look pretty young, not regarding of whether they are currently part of the drama or not. Your opinion on how the actress looks in comparison to Dilraba Dilmurat is your opinion, not everyone. I’m sure some other people, including me, sees those actresses younger looking than Dilraba Dilmurat (not that Dilraba Dilmurat isn’t young-looking, just in comparison to those actresses she looks older).There are various other actresses that I haven't mention that are younger than Dilraba Dilmurat who could have been easily casted as Li Changge to Wu Lei's Ashina Sun just like how Wu Lei could have been easily recast with someone else to match Dilraba Dilmurat's Li Changge. In regard to the manhua, both Dilraba Dilmurat and Wu Lei doesn't exactly match how their character look like. So, although both Dilraba Dilmurat and Wu Lei have their flaws appearance wise, but it’s their skill that I’m hoping to do well in this drama.
Older men acted with younger (underage) girls because in the past younger women tended to marry older men in real life, thus older men usually act with younger women was usually fine in dramaland in the past. Even now, we are more likely to accept an older man acting with a younger woman than an older woman acting with a younger man because of that past mindset. However, that past shouldn’t limit our perspective. I’m not saying that a really older woman (ex: 36) acting with a really younger man(ex:16) should be fine because that’s just as worse as a really older man(ex:36) acting with a younger woman(ex:16). Especially if the drama isn’t focused on age difference. I’m just saying that people should be fine with actors and actresses who have only a few years difference (ten years or less with both being adults) regardless of who is the older or younger co-star. It should be the skill that is the main focus, not the appearance (regarding how pretty or ugly, not age-appearance) of an actor/actress.
I brought in same sex marriage, LGBT, and others to give some example in changes in society as time goes by if you need to see in a different perspective other than dramaland and because you were talking about “norm” which is what I was focusing on when I brought in those topics, especially since those topic are pretty prevalent right now. If you don’t read it, you’re missing the point. Also, dramaland follows the same type of trend as those other topics I brought in; they change as time goes by even if at first it’s not liked by the majority but by the minority. Also, you brought in a chef scenario who isn’t part of the dramaland world so I don’t know why I can’t bring in other topics too. You gave a different topic to help strengthen your opinion so I could give a different topic to strengthen my opinion too. Although I do agree that people who do things differently from what the majority does will receive criticism, however standing against time, in the future they could be the one who is considered the better one, or their perspective would become what the majority of that time likes instead of what the majority of the previous period like. Since you only want to focus on dramaland I won’t bring in different types of topics examples and I’ll just bring in dramaland’s example. Look at Chinese Paladin. Before Chinese Paladin, there’s rarely any if there is one, that is a game turn to drama adaptation. Only after Chinese Paladin is there more game turn to drama adaptation. Then there’s Nirvana in Fire, who’s cinematography influences other Chinese producers how to film their drama. Before Nirvana in Fire, the cinematography in most Chinese drama wasn't as pretty as after Nirvana in Fire. These dramas were different from other dramas during their time, but that did not stop them from doing what they were doing. And in the end, it even influence other people to copy them in hope of success just like them.
What I’m saying for my chef question is, would a chef who specialize in making Korean food just randomly cook some French food? They wouldn’t. If the customer wants French food they’ll go to a chef who specializes in French food, not a chef who specializes in Korean food. A chef who makes Korean food isn’t going to change his/her cooking just because people want to eat French food. There will be other people who want to Korean food and those are the one who the chef would focus on. Answering your question about whether a chef knows if people are eating his/her food, of course he/she will know if those people buy it from him/her, but it’s not like he’s/she’s forcing them to eat it if they don’t want to. It’s the customer choice to eat or not eat. It’s not like if you’re going to a Chinese restaurant and you start demanding the chef to cook some Nigerian’s food for you the chef will cook it. So, although business is important, the chef’s way is also important. You can't expect going into a Chinese restaurant to get some Nigerian's food.
Lady, it might be too extreme to say others look down on WL because it isn't like that. He can be 30 or 40 but…
If you scroll down the comment section you would see commenters looking down on Wu Lei, be it because of his age, his youthful look, or something else so I wasn't going off without any basis, nor was I being extreme.
To counter your second paragraph, why should we be accustomed watching an older person acting as a kid when there are kids who can act as kids? Does this mean we should be accustomed with an old man dating an underage girl just because that was once the norm? Just because society tell us it's right we should just mindlessly follow along? Also, there are several actresses who are around Wu Lei's age. You said that if they switch Dilraba Dilmurat the new actress will likely be the same age or look like she's the same age as her again, which it doesn't make any sense to switch her out. However, there are several actresses who are close to Wu Lei's age. There's Li Landi(1999), Zhang Xueying(1997), Jiang Yiyi(2001), Zhao Lusi(1998), and more. Thus Dilraba Dilmurat being switched out would be fine especially if Wu Lei need to be switched out for not being buff enough for the type of people who only care about the appearance. Either actor can be switched. It just depend on the producer. So Dilraba and Wu Lei are both fine as the character they will be playing. They just need to ensure that their acting skill are good.
As for your third paragraph, I personally feel like you're being too closed-minded. "..that's just the norm. That's what most people like. It's a taste." This opinion is so closed-minded. If everyone were to live by that mindset, movements likes same sex marriage, LGBT, women's right and such would never pass nor be noticed. People would had disapprove same sex marriage, they wouldn't approve of LGBT, they wouldn't give women's right to women because the majority didn't approve of them during their time, only as time goes by does those movement being to gain approval. Same sex marriage, LGBT being fine, women having rights eventually got approved because taste changes, people changes, and what a minority ask for eventually became what the majority ask for. What was once the "norm" changes because either that "norm" wasn't right, there's a better "norm", or something else. Of course I understand that some of these movements are not approved in some countries, however the country I was using was the United States of America, the country I currently live in. In your example, you used a chef, so I'll use a chef too. There are hundreds of people who eats the chef's food, but should the chef cook as what everyone want or cook as how the chef's wants, and those who like what the chef cook, eat what the chef cook?
I hope everything I wrote was clear. If there was anything that I wrote that didn't sound clear, please ask.
On the contrary,I think Wu Lei’s cast as Ashina is perfect.Dilraba is beautiful and nice but I don’t want…
I understand where you're coming from. I do think that Wu Lei does have the potential to be a good Ashina. It's not like he's a bad actor. I think he's fairly well. Everyone is just looking down/nitpicking on him due to him not being as popular as Dilraba.
As I stated before, if we were to go by age, then Dilraba is definitely a bit too old to be playing such a young character. There's a thirteen or so age difference. But if we were to go by ethnicity, Dilraba does have some credibility. However, this age and ethnicity can't be really be used to judge an actor/actress because as we all seen previously, some actors who are too old to be playing a character still play that character and some actors who doesn't exactly fit in how a character is suppose to look like still play that character.
I don't really have a strong preference in who play who as long as they play it well. I mean, I do wish I get to see new face acting in big drama, but producers tend to go for easy money only. Also, sometime actors we don't think will do a good job acting as a certain character would later wow us. See Mark Chao as Ye Hua in Three Lives Three Worlds Ten Miles of Peach Blossom and Liu Shi Shi as Maertai Ruoxi in Bu Bu Jing Xin as two example for this situation. Therefore, I don't want to truly judge anyone. Of course we could always view their previous work to determine their ability, but this isn't always the best method. All we could do is hope that they do justice to the story, the characters, and everything else we love.
Because everyone is looking down on Wu Lei and no one is willing to defend Wu Lei at all. I'll do it. Although in this defense, I may cast Dilraba Dilmurat in a 'bad light' it is not because I dislike Dilraba Dilmurat (I actually like her), but because I need to prove a point. And it's not really 'bad light' per say, but if you guys really want to point hand and say that I'm saying that, then I'm just stating it before anyone else say it.
So, without further to do, to all the "Wu Lei is too young to play this character" people, Wu Lei age is fine as it is. Maybe it's Dilraba Dilmurat who's too old to play the character she is playing. Have any of you thought of that? At the beginning of the story, Li Changge is only 14 and Ashina Sun is 19. Considering each actor/actress true age, only Wu Lei come close to Ashina Sun age while Dilraba Dilmurat isn't close to Li Changge age at all. If this was an American movie, where the leads are suppose to be teen as what this series characters are, then people would be complaining about how old people are acting as young people. Also, if you guys try to bring the "since Dilraba Dilmurat is casted first and is older, she should have an older co-star to act opposite of her", shame on you guys. You guys are willing to have man older than her act with her but won't let a younger man act with her. Your double standard is showing. You people are so ingrained with "it's okay with an older man and younger woman but not younger man and older woman" mindset. If you're trying to bring up appearance wise, shame on you people too. You guys are probably the type of netizen that would be preaching about not judging a person appearance but if given the chance, you people would judges them on their appearance. So what if Wu Lei looks youthful? Who ever say that a general need to look rough and gruffly? Consider this question, and if you say no, then don't even try to argue: Does a woman have to look delicate and be sweet looking to be consider a woman? Also, almost all male leads in the Chinese drama industry share a similar physique to Wu Lei. The pot is calling the kettle black. As for you guys looking down on Wu Lei inability to act, Dilraba Dilmurat falls right in the same category there with him. Don't try to pretend and see through rose-colored glasses only. Both are about okay in their acting ability. No one is really better than the other.
This conclude my defense for Wu Lei. I apologize for casting Dilraba Dilmurat in a bad light if you guys feel like I'm casting her in a bad light. It's not my intention. It came that way due to needing to defend Wu Lei. As stated before, I like Dilraba Dilmurat. She's a very pretty actress. she's even Uyghur which is a part of Li Changge's ethnicity, which bring more authenticity to how Li Changge would look like in real life. To bring back one topic back, I just want to say that twenty-seven, which is Dilraba Dilmurat age this year, in general is not old at all.
P.S: Excuse me for any spelling or grammatical error. Perfect English isn't my strong suit.
Here's a fanmade, fan-dubbed 45 minute version of this story for anyone interested in knowing what it's about. Beware of spoilers as it tell the entire storyline. There's english subtitles, but I think it's machine translated. Since it uses existing dramas, suspend your knowledge about those drama to understand this story.
This fanmade drama stars Liu Shishi, Xiao Zhan, Liu Haoran, and Cheng Yi as the main characters.
Older men acted with younger (underage) girls because in the past younger women tended to marry older men in real life, thus older men usually act with younger women was usually fine in dramaland in the past. Even now, we are more likely to accept an older man acting with a younger woman than an older woman acting with a younger man because of that past mindset. However, that past shouldn’t limit our perspective. I’m not saying that a really older woman (ex: 36) acting with a really younger man(ex:16) should be fine because that’s just as worse as a really older man(ex:36) acting with a younger woman(ex:16). Especially if the drama isn’t focused on age difference. I’m just saying that people should be fine with actors and actresses who have only a few years difference (ten years or less with both being adults) regardless of who is the older or younger co-star. It should be the skill that is the main focus, not the appearance (regarding how pretty or ugly, not age-appearance) of an actor/actress.
I brought in same sex marriage, LGBT, and others to give some example in changes in society as time goes by if you need to see in a different perspective other than dramaland and because you were talking about “norm” which is what I was focusing on when I brought in those topics, especially since those topic are pretty prevalent right now. If you don’t read it, you’re missing the point. Also, dramaland follows the same type of trend as those other topics I brought in; they change as time goes by even if at first it’s not liked by the majority but by the minority. Also, you brought in a chef scenario who isn’t part of the dramaland world so I don’t know why I can’t bring in other topics too. You gave a different topic to help strengthen your opinion so I could give a different topic to strengthen my opinion too. Although I do agree that people who do things differently from what the majority does will receive criticism, however standing against time, in the future they could be the one who is considered the better one, or their perspective would become what the majority of that time likes instead of what the majority of the previous period like. Since you only want to focus on dramaland I won’t bring in different types of topics examples and I’ll just bring in dramaland’s example. Look at Chinese Paladin. Before Chinese Paladin, there’s rarely any if there is one, that is a game turn to drama adaptation. Only after Chinese Paladin is there more game turn to drama adaptation. Then there’s Nirvana in Fire, who’s cinematography influences other Chinese producers how to film their drama. Before Nirvana in Fire, the cinematography in most Chinese drama wasn't as pretty as after Nirvana in Fire. These dramas were different from other dramas during their time, but that did not stop them from doing what they were doing. And in the end, it even influence other people to copy them in hope of success just like them.
What I’m saying for my chef question is, would a chef who specialize in making Korean food just randomly cook some French food? They wouldn’t. If the customer wants French food they’ll go to a chef who specializes in French food, not a chef who specializes in Korean food. A chef who makes Korean food isn’t going to change his/her cooking just because people want to eat French food. There will be other people who want to Korean food and those are the one who the chef would focus on. Answering your question about whether a chef knows if people are eating his/her food, of course he/she will know if those people buy it from him/her, but it’s not like he’s/she’s forcing them to eat it if they don’t want to. It’s the customer choice to eat or not eat. It’s not like if you’re going to a Chinese restaurant and you start demanding the chef to cook some Nigerian’s food for you the chef will cook it. So, although business is important, the chef’s way is also important. You can't expect going into a Chinese restaurant to get some Nigerian's food.
Edit: Removing last section as it's not necessary
To counter your second paragraph, why should we be accustomed watching an older person acting as a kid when there are kids who can act as kids? Does this mean we should be accustomed with an old man dating an underage girl just because that was once the norm? Just because society tell us it's right we should just mindlessly follow along? Also, there are several actresses who are around Wu Lei's age. You said that if they switch Dilraba Dilmurat the new actress will likely be the same age or look like she's the same age as her again, which it doesn't make any sense to switch her out. However, there are several actresses who are close to Wu Lei's age. There's Li Landi(1999), Zhang Xueying(1997), Jiang Yiyi(2001), Zhao Lusi(1998), and more. Thus Dilraba Dilmurat being switched out would be fine especially if Wu Lei need to be switched out for not being buff enough for the type of people who only care about the appearance. Either actor can be switched. It just depend on the producer. So Dilraba and Wu Lei are both fine as the character they will be playing. They just need to ensure that their acting skill are good.
As for your third paragraph, I personally feel like you're being too closed-minded. "..that's just the norm. That's what most people like. It's a taste." This opinion is so closed-minded. If everyone were to live by that mindset, movements likes same sex marriage, LGBT, women's right and such would never pass nor be noticed. People would had disapprove same sex marriage, they wouldn't approve of LGBT, they wouldn't give women's right to women because the majority didn't approve of them during their time, only as time goes by does those movement being to gain approval. Same sex marriage, LGBT being fine, women having rights eventually got approved because taste changes, people changes, and what a minority ask for eventually became what the majority ask for. What was once the "norm" changes because either that "norm" wasn't right, there's a better "norm", or something else. Of course I understand that some of these movements are not approved in some countries, however the country I was using was the United States of America, the country I currently live in. In your example, you used a chef, so I'll use a chef too. There are hundreds of people who eats the chef's food, but should the chef cook as what everyone want or cook as how the chef's wants, and those who like what the chef cook, eat what the chef cook?
I hope everything I wrote was clear. If there was anything that I wrote that didn't sound clear, please ask.
As I stated before, if we were to go by age, then Dilraba is definitely a bit too old to be playing such a young character. There's a thirteen or so age difference. But if we were to go by ethnicity, Dilraba does have some credibility. However, this age and ethnicity can't be really be used to judge an actor/actress because as we all seen previously, some actors who are too old to be playing a character still play that character and some actors who doesn't exactly fit in how a character is suppose to look like still play that character.
I don't really have a strong preference in who play who as long as they play it well. I mean, I do wish I get to see new face acting in big drama, but producers tend to go for easy money only. Also, sometime actors we don't think will do a good job acting as a certain character would later wow us. See Mark Chao as Ye Hua in Three Lives Three Worlds Ten Miles of Peach Blossom and Liu Shi Shi as Maertai Ruoxi in Bu Bu Jing Xin as two example for this situation. Therefore, I don't want to truly judge anyone. Of course we could always view their previous work to determine their ability, but this isn't always the best method. All we could do is hope that they do justice to the story, the characters, and everything else we love.
So, without further to do, to all the "Wu Lei is too young to play this character" people, Wu Lei age is fine as it is. Maybe it's Dilraba Dilmurat who's too old to play the character she is playing. Have any of you thought of that? At the beginning of the story, Li Changge is only 14 and Ashina Sun is 19. Considering each actor/actress true age, only Wu Lei come close to Ashina Sun age while Dilraba Dilmurat isn't close to Li Changge age at all. If this was an American movie, where the leads are suppose to be teen as what this series characters are, then people would be complaining about how old people are acting as young people. Also, if you guys try to bring the "since Dilraba Dilmurat is casted first and is older, she should have an older co-star to act opposite of her", shame on you guys. You guys are willing to have man older than her act with her but won't let a younger man act with her. Your double standard is showing. You people are so ingrained with "it's okay with an older man and younger woman but not younger man and older woman" mindset. If you're trying to bring up appearance wise, shame on you people too. You guys are probably the type of netizen that would be preaching about not judging a person appearance but if given the chance, you people would judges them on their appearance. So what if Wu Lei looks youthful? Who ever say that a general need to look rough and gruffly? Consider this question, and if you say no, then don't even try to argue: Does a woman have to look delicate and be sweet looking to be consider a woman? Also, almost all male leads in the Chinese drama industry share a similar physique to Wu Lei. The pot is calling the kettle black. As for you guys looking down on Wu Lei inability to act, Dilraba Dilmurat falls right in the same category there with him. Don't try to pretend and see through rose-colored glasses only. Both are about okay in their acting ability. No one is really better than the other.
This conclude my defense for Wu Lei. I apologize for casting Dilraba Dilmurat in a bad light if you guys feel like I'm casting her in a bad light. It's not my intention. It came that way due to needing to defend Wu Lei. As stated before, I like Dilraba Dilmurat. She's a very pretty actress. she's even Uyghur which is a part of Li Changge's ethnicity, which bring more authenticity to how Li Changge would look like in real life. To bring back one topic back, I just want to say that twenty-seven, which is Dilraba Dilmurat age this year, in general is not old at all.
P.S: Excuse me for any spelling or grammatical error. Perfect English isn't my strong suit.