well this is an adaptation from a manga/anime, like alot of other dramas like this are in mdl, why wouldn't belong?
>cost of production would be like sky rocketing high if they put everything that was in the East Blue saga on the screen.
So?
Would you rather have the entire saga be killed with hamfisted writing choices and questionable decisions like having Coby get so much time despite doing fuck-all in them?
Eastblue saga is the foundation of the entire story.
What is the story of rushing/ruining the fuck outta it just to appeal to normies who otherwise aren't going to check out the manga regardless?
It makes no sense.
The show made baffling writing choices and made all of the Sh's one-note due to lack of actual time spend on exploring personalities/dynamic. At the moment, the "crew" is together because they are together in the manga. The show hasn't even earned that in its adaptation. Characters are just following cosplay Luffy despite having fuck-all reason to even find him charismatic.
One Piece is here because it’s a co-production. As far as I know none of what you listed is a co-production…
Right.
But just by watching the show, you can tell that Oda was not as involved as the PR is trying to make it seem like.
Storytelling in LA and the manga are day-and-night difference. It's very clear that this is Matt Owen's work through and through.
Unless people think that Oda just for whatever reason forgot to do what has been doing for 20+ years on a weekly basis. Hell, the latest chapter, 1103, alone has that classic Oda's storytelling then the entire LA.
There are just so many stupid writing decisions in LA that Oda fundamentally had to have sat on the side-lines and just approved stuff by Matt Owens.
But there is ALSO the fact that Oda is not a showrunner nor has any experience in it so him approving the LA isn't really a crediblity of its quality.
Bcoz japan is involved in Co-production and Zoro's actor Makenyuu is also Japanese.Oda did half of their job.
>Oda did half of their job
No, he didn't.
People need to stop bringing up shitty PR statements as way to say that Oda was involved with this when its obvious that his name is there for promo reasons.
It has none of Oda's actual storytelling and is more of a shitty Western interpretation of bunch of hacks writers.
For people who are fans of the manga, did you not understand Eastblue and didn't see how massively fucked up it was here?
For people who are non-fans/beginners; Read the original. All the arcs that the live-action covers are much better. Characters are more colorful and have more personality/natural dynamic.
But for drama standarts the drama was really good and only that is important^^
Lol unless you are watching some seriously shitty CW shows, this adaptation is piss poor.
One Piece fans are just superficially trying to praise it when it's an amateur-hour production and overall quality.
As a hardcore fan of the series though, it's been fun to know how many people haven't read Eastblue or even understand it. Otherwise LA fucks up so much stuff that it's even questionable why this adaptation exists when shitty Western writers Westernized the shit outte the source material and replaced lovable/colorful characters with one-notes.
You can get the story in those episodes, not the characterization and the character work. If you think the show…
> I'm not going to tell you when and where the cat was born and who raised him.
Well yeah, since the "story" you are trying to tell is about just saving the cat, not about the cat itself or yourself.
Are you confused about how different narratives with different narrative goals work?
Moving is a character-driven narrative. It's focused less on the events and more on the characters. The final battle is given more weight due to the relationships and characters that the show has already established through the present time but also the flashbacks.
>every respected writer will tell you that overused flashbacks are sign of lazy writing.
Flashback, just like every other literary device, depends on the execution and isn't by itself good or bad.
Moving uses flashbacks to give weight to its characters and the events. Even villains are given weight and humanity.
You seem to think that storytelling is essentially just getting the plot in a wikia-type format when that isn't really the case at all.
Character-driven narratives are especially more focused on the characters, their inner conflict, feelings, development, growth etc... than the events. The events are just used as a backdrop to initiate action and add stakes.
It's funny because me and my brother were talking about this exact topic as we were watching both Moving and Invincible (Western Superhero animated show about people with superpowers) and yet the contrast behind the storytelling was different. One was focus on the events, actions, and explosions and had a fast pace while the other was focused on characters and their relationships.
And for us Moving was by far more interesting as a result. Invincible was downright boring as the characters didn't really have much depth or uniqueness about it. Hell, even the main character is a teenager if we are comparing the shows even more and yet Moving's teen characters are given more time to interact and be humanized and provide us reasons to care.
And the reason why that is because Invincible jumped right in with the action and didn't make us CARE about what was going on.
While Moving, on the other hand, used its slow pacing to make us give a shit about the characters and through that the plot.
Again, my point is that you are trying to hold the slow-pacing of the show against it when the show is ABOUT that slow-pacing. It's the reasons why the show excels in its characters which is why even the fight scenes are intense, and interesting. Characters are the center piece here.
You can get the story in those episodes, not the characterization and the character work. If you think the show…
BTW just for your information; a "plot" can be told in a way less amount of time; it just doesn't mean that it will be anything special. Storytelling isn't about the plot; it's about how the plot is told to the audience.
The flashbacks in Moving, for example, add weight, depth and layers to the characters and their relationships. The show excels in its characters exactly because the writers decided to focus more on them, or the people who are driving the plot, rather than the plot itself.
The story can be described as "people with super powers" but the focal point of the show is on the "people" and not the "superpowers".
This is easily the best "superhero" live-action stuff i have seen. Maybe give this show a try later on and focus on the min to min character stuff more than the general plot.
If you don't watch any dramas without romance,then you're missing out a lot seriously!!Oh well ! Your loss !
It's both an anime and manga.
Manga has 162 chapters/18 volumes.
The anime is 74 episode long.
Just like Hope_Sunshine said, you can watch the anime on Netflix though Netflix doesn't have the dub for it which is a shame as the dub is really good.
Do check the series as it's brilliant and a really complex psychological thriller mystery series.
If you don't watch any dramas without romance,then you're missing out a lot seriously!!Oh well ! Your loss !
I mean that's why I'm asking lol.
I have watched plenty of mystery/thrillers from West and hardly any of them can top the Korean ones. True Detective, Broadchurch, Missing, Happy Valley, Luther, Perfume etc...
The best thriller i have ever seen however is from Japan; Monster manga by Naoki Urasawa.
So?
Would you rather have the entire saga be killed with hamfisted writing choices and questionable decisions like having Coby get so much time despite doing fuck-all in them?
Eastblue saga is the foundation of the entire story.
What is the story of rushing/ruining the fuck outta it just to appeal to normies who otherwise aren't going to check out the manga regardless?
It makes no sense.
The show made baffling writing choices and made all of the Sh's one-note due to lack of actual time spend on exploring personalities/dynamic. At the moment, the "crew" is together because they are together in the manga. The show hasn't even earned that in its adaptation. Characters are just following cosplay Luffy despite having fuck-all reason to even find him charismatic.
But just by watching the show, you can tell that Oda was not as involved as the PR is trying to make it seem like.
Storytelling in LA and the manga are day-and-night difference. It's very clear that this is Matt Owen's work through and through.
Unless people think that Oda just for whatever reason forgot to do what has been doing for 20+ years on a weekly basis. Hell, the latest chapter, 1103, alone has that classic Oda's storytelling then the entire LA.
There are just so many stupid writing decisions in LA that Oda fundamentally had to have sat on the side-lines and just approved stuff by Matt Owens.
But there is ALSO the fact that Oda is not a showrunner nor has any experience in it so him approving the LA isn't really a crediblity of its quality.
No, he didn't.
People need to stop bringing up shitty PR statements as way to say that Oda was involved with this when its obvious that his name is there for promo reasons.
It has none of Oda's actual storytelling and is more of a shitty Western interpretation of bunch of hacks writers.
For people who are fans of the manga, did you not understand Eastblue and didn't see how massively fucked up it was here?
For people who are non-fans/beginners; Read the original. All the arcs that the live-action covers are much better. Characters are more colorful and have more personality/natural dynamic.
One Piece fans are just superficially trying to praise it when it's an amateur-hour production and overall quality.
As a hardcore fan of the series though, it's been fun to know how many people haven't read Eastblue or even understand it. Otherwise LA fucks up so much stuff that it's even questionable why this adaptation exists when shitty Western writers Westernized the shit outte the source material and replaced lovable/colorful characters with one-notes.
Oda could only approve stuff.
I wish people stop throwing out Oda's name like somehow he was on the set when he wasn't.
He isn't the showrunner or the writer. He is a producer.
The live-action very loosely covers the "prologue" of the manga.
Well yeah, since the "story" you are trying to tell is about just saving the cat, not about the cat itself or yourself.
Are you confused about how different narratives with different narrative goals work?
Moving is a character-driven narrative. It's focused less on the events and more on the characters. The final battle is given more weight due to the relationships and characters that the show has already established through the present time but also the flashbacks.
>every respected writer will tell you that overused flashbacks are sign of lazy writing.
Flashback, just like every other literary device, depends on the execution and isn't by itself good or bad.
Moving uses flashbacks to give weight to its characters and the events. Even villains are given weight and humanity.
You seem to think that storytelling is essentially just getting the plot in a wikia-type format when that isn't really the case at all.
Character-driven narratives are especially more focused on the characters, their inner conflict, feelings, development, growth etc... than the events. The events are just used as a backdrop to initiate action and add stakes.
It's funny because me and my brother were talking about this exact topic as we were watching both Moving and Invincible (Western Superhero animated show about people with superpowers) and yet the contrast behind the storytelling was different. One was focus on the events, actions, and explosions and had a fast pace while the other was focused on characters and their relationships.
And for us Moving was by far more interesting as a result. Invincible was downright boring as the characters didn't really have much depth or uniqueness about it. Hell, even the main character is a teenager if we are comparing the shows even more and yet Moving's teen characters are given more time to interact and be humanized and provide us reasons to care.
And the reason why that is because Invincible jumped right in with the action and didn't make us CARE about what was going on.
While Moving, on the other hand, used its slow pacing to make us give a shit about the characters and through that the plot.
Again, my point is that you are trying to hold the slow-pacing of the show against it when the show is ABOUT that slow-pacing. It's the reasons why the show excels in its characters which is why even the fight scenes are intense, and interesting. Characters are the center piece here.
The flashbacks in Moving, for example, add weight, depth and layers to the characters and their relationships. The show excels in its characters exactly because the writers decided to focus more on them, or the people who are driving the plot, rather than the plot itself.
The story can be described as "people with super powers" but the focal point of the show is on the "people" and not the "superpowers".
This is easily the best "superhero" live-action stuff i have seen. Maybe give this show a try later on and focus on the min to min character stuff more than the general plot.
If you think the show has "serious" problems in storytelling then you failed to even grasp what storytelling is.
Manga has 162 chapters/18 volumes.
The anime is 74 episode long.
Just like Hope_Sunshine said, you can watch the anime on Netflix though Netflix doesn't have the dub for it which is a shame as the dub is really good.
Do check the series as it's brilliant and a really complex psychological thriller mystery series.
I have watched plenty of mystery/thrillers from West and hardly any of them can top the Korean ones. True Detective, Broadchurch, Missing, Happy Valley, Luther, Perfume etc...
The best thriller i have ever seen however is from Japan; Monster manga by Naoki Urasawa.