Quick PSA for new watchers, Spoiler Free. To help you decide whether to watch or not.
1. This show is not as good as the writer's previous work. 2. This show is KSH's breakout show, he gained A LOT of fans from this show. 3. Not NJH's best work. The character was not written well. 4. Suzy was typical Suzy 5. Kang Hanna does not have much screen time 6. Yes, there is plot holes 7. Yes there is a love triangle 8. The OST is amazing 9. It's not a complicated drama, very predictable plot. 10. It has a decent amount of funny scenes 11. It has a decent amount of cringy scenes. 12. It is a Youth drama, so the moral is mostly have to do with "Against All Odds, and Succeed" message. 13. Lots of skin ship 14. No, it doesn't really have a lot of information about Tech industry and Start Up. But it does have it, and you will probably learn a few things. 15. You may or may not get SLS 16. Yes, there is a big ship war with this show. 17. It is rated 5% viewership audience for a TVN seris. 18. It has a strong start and weak finish, similar to ROY. 19. You may or may not relate with the ML, and if you don't it will be a hard watch.
Controversial points1. The first few episodes makes the audience feel connected with the second lead more than…
SLS is something most writers try to avoid in their love triangles. If SLS was such a great literary tool, more writers would write their love triangle to make sure the audience all get SLS.
In reality, all SLS does is frustrate fans, create unnecessary ship wars, and in Korea, it can even lead to death threats among other things.
It is clear the writer of Start Up, since it's a live airing, tried to do away with peoples SLS, unfortunately SLS in this show is quite strong.
Everyone kindly urge to post nice comments on NJH and Suzy's SNS. Some of their fanbases are asking everyone for…
What is SNS?
Doesn't Suzy and NJH have 10's of millions of fans on IG? I'm sure our couple hundred of people here won't make much of a difference against their Fan Armies... Especially when the ones attacking them are Koreans, and we are an international audience.
Thinking of watching this but kinda hesitating because of the dumpster fire going on over here.Without spoilers,…
Controversial points
1. The first few episodes makes the audience feel connected with the second lead more than the main lead.
2. The character of the second lead is given a much better story then the first lead.
3. It's a tale of two writers, the first few episodes are great, and then as if someone else is writing the rest of the show.
4. The first few episodes, and the Kdrama title promised a business driven Kdrama, but instead we get a love triangle that dominates more than 70% of the plot, and takes forever to reach it's end.
5. The plot is quite cliche, and the plot becomes very predictable near the middle.
It's a real thing that encompasses Kpop, and Kdrama.
What is a fan cafe? I'm not familiar with korean culture. Also, it seems more like criticizing the characters rather than the actors, although some did attempt to diss the actual actors.
Besides, this is Korea and on twitter, it's not the same as the fans in MDL, which is mostly international fans, something you seem to be failing to understand.
I think a lot of women, myself included, could not romanticize, nor normalize the actions of NDS in the show.…
You do know that the actors Suzy and NJH both in an interview admit that they do not agree with NDS's character right? Just wondering if you knew this...
The dislike for NDS and the main couple, have been backed up by examples from the show and personal opinions. People are not criticizing for the sake of it. You can read my review, and I talk about it all in great detail.
Recently there have been people making new accounts rating the show 1/10, or 10/10, so you should ignore those reviews, and only read the ones that are from people who didn't just make new accounts.
Both male leads have their flaw, and I think most HJP fans understand that HJP is also a flawed characters. But most complex characters are. In terms of manipulations, you can go ahead and list all of the manipulative things HJP does, and I bet I can write more manipulative things that NDS has done. Should we start this contest to prove who has been more manipulative? Not that it really matters, since the show is done. But if you wanted, I would oblige.
You think people are proud to skip scenes? Maybe you think about the logic of it. People are watching a show, and willing to miss important scenes, and they are proud of it? If anything, this just shows how fans absolutely disliked NDS character so much, that they are willing to miss certain important scenes just to not see his face or his scenes.
I'm only on MDL, and the HJP fans here have been quite tame, and don't attack the actors themselves. If anything, the NDS fans have been quite aggressive, personally attacks other posters, and are projectionist.
People are giving a bad rating, because the show is not great. At least the ones in MDL are doing it. How others act on twitter or facebook or other social media, I cannot comment on.
If you are displeased with how the show you love is being received, maybe look deeper into where the show went wrong? You are aware that this show only ranked 5% ratings in Korea, while the show that came before it, Record of Youth is ranking at 10% ratings. So maybe, do you think it's possible that this show was just not that good? Or are we going to say Koreans forcefully didn't watch start up because of a ship as well?
If anything, maybe channel sound of your frustrations on the weak writing, subpar acting by the leads, and numerous plot holes?
Thanks for waking me up!
If the 10's go down to average, it will be a 11% drop. Which could bump this a few more points down.
1. This show is not as good as the writer's previous work.
2. This show is KSH's breakout show, he gained A LOT of fans from this show.
3. Not NJH's best work. The character was not written well.
4. Suzy was typical Suzy
5. Kang Hanna does not have much screen time
6. Yes, there is plot holes
7. Yes there is a love triangle
8. The OST is amazing
9. It's not a complicated drama, very predictable plot.
10. It has a decent amount of funny scenes
11. It has a decent amount of cringy scenes.
12. It is a Youth drama, so the moral is mostly have to do with "Against All Odds, and Succeed" message.
13. Lots of skin ship
14. No, it doesn't really have a lot of information about Tech industry and Start Up. But it does have it, and you will probably learn a few things.
15. You may or may not get SLS
16. Yes, there is a big ship war with this show.
17. It is rated 5% viewership audience for a TVN seris.
18. It has a strong start and weak finish, similar to ROY.
19. You may or may not relate with the ML, and if you don't it will be a hard watch.
We tried stopping them, but we only have one email :(
In reality, all SLS does is frustrate fans, create unnecessary ship wars, and in Korea, it can even lead to death threats among other things.
It is clear the writer of Start Up, since it's a live airing, tried to do away with peoples SLS, unfortunately SLS in this show is quite strong.
Other days it's the opposite, other days it's an even amount.
I guess the ship wars has spilled over onto the review section.
I just find it kind of silly.
NJH and Suzy army are working over time. This is TKEM all over again.
Doesn't Suzy and NJH have 10's of millions of fans on IG? I'm sure our couple hundred of people here won't make much of a difference against their Fan Armies... Especially when the ones attacking them are Koreans, and we are an international audience.
1. The first few episodes makes the audience feel connected with the second lead more than the main lead.
2. The character of the second lead is given a much better story then the first lead.
3. It's a tale of two writers, the first few episodes are great, and then as if someone else is writing the rest of the show.
4. The first few episodes, and the Kdrama title promised a business driven Kdrama, but instead we get a love triangle that dominates more than 70% of the plot, and takes forever to reach it's end.
5. The plot is quite cliche, and the plot becomes very predictable near the middle.
It's a real thing that encompasses Kpop, and Kdrama.
What is a fan cafe? I'm not familiar with korean culture. Also, it seems more like criticizing the characters rather than the actors, although some did attempt to diss the actual actors.
Besides, this is Korea and on twitter, it's not the same as the fans in MDL, which is mostly international fans, something you seem to be failing to understand.
Propaganda much?
The dislike for NDS and the main couple, have been backed up by examples from the show and personal opinions. People are not criticizing for the sake of it. You can read my review, and I talk about it all in great detail.
Recently there have been people making new accounts rating the show 1/10, or 10/10, so you should ignore those reviews, and only read the ones that are from people who didn't just make new accounts.
Both male leads have their flaw, and I think most HJP fans understand that HJP is also a flawed characters. But most complex characters are. In terms of manipulations, you can go ahead and list all of the manipulative things HJP does, and I bet I can write more manipulative things that NDS has done. Should we start this contest to prove who has been more manipulative? Not that it really matters, since the show is done. But if you wanted, I would oblige.
You think people are proud to skip scenes? Maybe you think about the logic of it. People are watching a show, and willing to miss important scenes, and they are proud of it? If anything, this just shows how fans absolutely disliked NDS character so much, that they are willing to miss certain important scenes just to not see his face or his scenes.
I'm only on MDL, and the HJP fans here have been quite tame, and don't attack the actors themselves. If anything, the NDS fans have been quite aggressive, personally attacks other posters, and are projectionist.
People are giving a bad rating, because the show is not great. At least the ones in MDL are doing it. How others act on twitter or facebook or other social media, I cannot comment on.
If you are displeased with how the show you love is being received, maybe look deeper into where the show went wrong? You are aware that this show only ranked 5% ratings in Korea, while the show that came before it, Record of Youth is ranking at 10% ratings. So maybe, do you think it's possible that this show was just not that good? Or are we going to say Koreans forcefully didn't watch start up because of a ship as well?
If anything, maybe channel sound of your frustrations on the weak writing, subpar acting by the leads, and numerous plot holes?