One thing is for sure he shouldn't have lied about dating...I am sure he is not responsible for her downfall, but when things got messy, he should have helped her...this of course is my assumption, but still he should have stood by her...
her DUI should have been handled with proper care and more leniency. She was shunned and shoved for a mistake that could have been easily forgiven. But I am sure it wasn't just DUI, there is always a trail of misfortune before the final exit.
Much bigger criminal and rapist roam free in Korea, and yet here we lynched and sentenced one girl to death for something where people could have helped her...
We killed her as much as he or anybody else did.
But her suicide on his birthday will forever hunt him, I feel bad for him as well as feel nothing.
and same as Beacuse of Love. But it was FL who hid the child and grandfather was the villain. it was also Wallace…
it is way early on, but to have theior happy endng, FL faked that she is married so the ML is reserved towards her and one by one truth reveals and they ge to have happy ending slowly, as they are in their 40s so it is not that romance, but a romance through child...so it is mature drama not like this one but story is same.
and same as Beacuse of Love. But it was FL who hid the child and grandfather was the villain. it was also Wallace…
that was indeed melodrama, as the mother had to bring the child back to cure his illness and needed money but grandfather conditioned her to give them grandchild to be the heir of his empire and he will pay hospital bills. and ML though all his life that she was selfish, and took money from his grandfather and left him, didn't knew that his grandfather made her life miserable and throw her out when she was pregnenet.
Do Chinese people love her or not cause in rednote in most of her videos like in awards shows red carpet and all…
ZDY is not typical actress, she doesn't like to appear on shows and other areas outside of her work- the fake public labeled her "for not fitting standard Chinese beauty ideals".
Comments like:
“too thin,” “too small,” “not traditional beauty,” “not idol-like,” “quirky face,” are extremely common on Weibo, Douban, and Chinese forums. So yes , her appearance being “unconventional” is a famous and constant debate.
She is known for very blunt and do not sugarcoat, or speak cute, act cute or go along with the type public wants the CN actresses or actors to be. This is also a publicly recognized trait.
Plus she is known as director's darling, all critically acclaimed director go for her if they really looking for some great acting, adn public do not like dramas or movies, her movies and dramas are not teen-idol romance, love triangles, or others, so public do not like it.
She is widely labelled as “not idol material”. Other actresses fit the “idol aesthetic”: elegant, glamorous, sweet, tall. ZDY intentionally does not.
Even Chinese media often calls her:
“草根风格” (grassroots style)
“没有偶像包袱” (no idol baggage)
“不在意形象” (doesn’t care about image)
This is a very well-known part of her public identity.
This is probably the MOST famous thing about her. People say:
“影后命,路人缘差” (Queen of movies, weak public favorability)
“影坛认可,路人不买账” (Film industry recognizes her, public doesn’t accept her freely)
This contradiction is a very well-known part of how ZDY is viewed in China.
EP5 can I just say is the most daring of all BLS, they didn't just went overboard but they did it all, like everything, the NC scenes, the slut language while at it, the confession, the BF phase and we have 10 more episodes to go...expecting heartbreak, lying and all that stuff...but yeah here to endure that!!!
I dont understand what Si Ting is up to, either she might not be showing all the emotions and pain inside and…
she hinted it, that stepmother is better than real mother, so the fucked up old hag know that she knows lele is her child. coming episodes will be more messier, i just hope ML show some fucking spine to snap out her mother for what she did to FL. 10 years, fucking 10 years she stole from her and her own son. this is a criminal case...but in drama all will be forgiven....
What the mother did is not “misunderstanding,” it is straight up stealing a child from the real mother. There is no nicer way to put it. The FL could drag the ML and his entire family to court for lying, covering it up, and hiding her own child from her for ten years.
ML being clueless is not an excuse. That is part of the problem. The MIL, the FIL, and everyone else involved knew exactly what was happening and chose to keep it going.
If the FL snaps out of it, she can easily file for full custody and every legal violation under Chinese civil code. This is not family chaos, this is a whole list of crimes:
stealing parental rights violating personal rights causing mental trauma hiding a minor faking birth information depriving someone of their legal freedom long term deception violating family rights violating personal dignity
I dont agree that his ''obsession is blinding him'' lol, this relationship is literally trauma bonding mixed with…
You’re reducing their entire dynamic to trauma bonding and a savior complex, but that oversimplifies it to the point of missing the whole character study. Yes, they share cycles and yes, patterns create attachment, but that doesn’t magically mean he understands her. Surviving the same loop with someone is not the same as knowing them. It just means you’re conditioned to the chaos.
Her coping mechanisms aren’t the issue. The issue is that he keeps insisting he sees her clearly when he’s only ever interacted with her defensive version, not her real interior. He’s projecting stability onto a dynamic that is anything but stable. He doesn’t “get” her, he’s addicted to the familiarity of their dysfunction.
And calling the audience’s reaction “empathy mixed with frustration” is generous. A lot of people judge her because it’s easier to blame the messy person than to admit the mess looks familiar. That’s projection, whether people like the word or not.
Daesang is given for cultural impact — and let’s be practical and real, neither the show nor KYJ has created…
I know how Daesang works, so that part isn’t news to me. My point is simple: her performance is on a level that deserves it, whether the show had a huge cultural impact or not. Best Actress is the minimum. If this isn’t Daesang-worthy acting, I don’t know what is.
I am not the only one who thinks she would be fine ending up with either of them, but that is not the case. On the other hand, I know the SFL is good, but her overconfidence and her kissing the SML without permission is completely over the top. If it were the reverse situation, everyone would be bashing the SML and calling him a stalker. I am just sad that FL is not ending up with her angelic friend.
I just do not want to see the SFL. Even though she is good, she keeps crossing boundaries to get what she wants, and I do not like it when people cross boundaries, no matter if their intentions are good or bad.
The mother is at it again… this woman is in her seventies and still managing to create chaos in her son’s life. But let me say something clearly: Asian mothers are not like this. What you see on screen is a 50% exaggeration at best. Yes, Asian mothers, whether Eastern or South Asian, can be strict, especially when it comes to studies or pushing you toward the “right” choices. They can be firm, even forceful at times. But this level of manipulation, control, and making other people’s lives miserable? That’s the kind of behavior that exists only in fiction, not in reality.
The boy is actually the ML and FL’s child lol.Now I feel so sad that he didn’t get to meet his mom until much…
no he won't marry once he will know thee truth, he is planning to marry as his mother is pushing...he doesn't love her, just marrying as she is nice girl and for sake of his kid, but once he will know the truth the marriage will not happen...
FL: "this time i will not let go. I will use my mother power"
Girl, you will go soft the ML mother is a cunt and bitch whore. She has been and will not change!
her DUI should have been handled with proper care and more leniency. She was shunned and shoved for a mistake that could have been easily forgiven. But I am sure it wasn't just DUI, there is always a trail of misfortune before the final exit.
Much bigger criminal and rapist roam free in Korea, and yet here we lynched and sentenced one girl to death for something where people could have helped her...
We killed her as much as he or anybody else did.
But her suicide on his birthday will forever hunt him, I feel bad for him as well as feel nothing.
Comments like:
“too thin,”
“too small,”
“not traditional beauty,”
“not idol-like,”
“quirky face,”
are extremely common on Weibo, Douban, and Chinese forums. So yes , her appearance being “unconventional” is a famous and constant debate.
She is known for very blunt and do not sugarcoat, or speak cute, act cute or go along with the type public wants the CN actresses or actors to be. This is also a publicly recognized trait.
Plus she is known as director's darling, all critically acclaimed director go for her if they really looking for some great acting, adn public do not like dramas or movies, her movies and dramas are not teen-idol romance, love triangles, or others, so public do not like it.
She is widely labelled as “not idol material”. Other actresses fit the “idol aesthetic”: elegant, glamorous, sweet, tall. ZDY intentionally does not.
Even Chinese media often calls her:
“草根风格” (grassroots style)
“没有偶像包袱” (no idol baggage)
“不在意形象” (doesn’t care about image)
This is a very well-known part of her public identity.
This is probably the MOST famous thing about her. People say:
“影后命,路人缘差” (Queen of movies, weak public favorability)
“影坛认可,路人不买账” (Film industry recognizes her, public doesn’t accept her freely)
This contradiction is a very well-known part of how ZDY is viewed in China.
ML being clueless is not an excuse. That is part of the problem. The MIL, the FIL, and everyone else involved knew exactly what was happening and chose to keep it going.
If the FL snaps out of it, she can easily file for full custody and every legal violation under Chinese civil code. This is not family chaos, this is a whole list of crimes:
stealing parental rights
violating personal rights
causing mental trauma
hiding a minor
faking birth information
depriving someone of their legal freedom
long term deception
violating family rights
violating personal dignity
Her coping mechanisms aren’t the issue. The issue is that he keeps insisting he sees her clearly when he’s only ever interacted with her defensive version, not her real interior. He’s projecting stability onto a dynamic that is anything but stable. He doesn’t “get” her, he’s addicted to the familiarity of their dysfunction.
And calling the audience’s reaction “empathy mixed with frustration” is generous. A lot of people judge her because it’s easier to blame the messy person than to admit the mess looks familiar. That’s projection, whether people like the word or not.
I just do not want to see the SFL. Even though she is good, she keeps crossing boundaries to get what she wants, and I do not like it when people cross boundaries, no matter if their intentions are good or bad.