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but what do you want to know? Main thing is that Punn can't kill Ramil, but he will choose hunters side and on Ramil's coronation day(idk if it's coronation, just him officially becoming a leader of vampires) they would do attack with all forces and many vampires/hunters will die. Because all vampires come to accept Ramil as their new leader, so all hunters will come and attack them, so it would be massive battle. And someone will nearly kill Punn, but Ramil will save him and they will have talk face to face and Ramil will forgive Punn for his betrayal. And Punn will be very sorry, because seeing this battle and how many vampires/hunters were dying all around make him regret everything. So Punn will change sides and join vampires. I can tell you everything, but tell me first what you want to know exactly.

he killed many of vampires, in this episode they show us that he was the one who killed this girl vampire and also his collection of necklaces, so I still don't understand why you think he is a horrible hunter. If we talk about Ramil case, he didn't kill him because he loved him and not because he was a horrible hunter, he just couldn't do that, but it has nothing to do with his abilities as a hunter. Also if he was horrible hunter then Jett wouldn't give him mission to kill Ramil, bcs it was their only mission and the most important too. And they give it to him. For me it means he was an amazing hunter otherwise they would choose someone else.

I think this scene on rooftop was just in Punn's head. More precisely it was just a dream. Why? Because we know that Punn had many dreams with Ramil before he set him free and they were kissing in these dreams for example and we know that Ramil didn't have these dreams, it was just in Punn's head. So it's why Ramil doesn't know about their interaction on rooftop and it's why next thing is Punn wakes up(because he was all this time in his bed just dreaming, they didn't even change their poses in bed, Ramil is hugging him in the same way as when they went to sleep). Ofc maybe someone has better explanation, but for me it looks like Punn's dream and that's all. (To be fair for me it was already suspicious on rooftop because Ramil had different clothes there, so I was like wtf why he would change clothes only to go after Punn in the middle of the night)
About their powers it's that Ramil as pure vampire has all powers and he is the most powerful especially in mind reading if I am correct. So his sons (as vampires who he created) get one of his powers after him, but they can't have more powers than one and they are weaker than Ramil. I wouldn't say it's too powerful, because healing for example isn't so helpful in fight, bcs you can heal small injures, but hunters know how to kill a vampire, so they will attack to kill so if they hit correctly you are dead and your healing will do nothing. It's better for saving others. And speed? Hunters have special bullets which counter this superspeed. The most powerful is mind reading, but only Ramil can use it at least at this moment. And to be more precise it isn't just mind reading, I mean something different, but it's a spoiler, do don't read of you don't want to know. So mind reading wasn't just mind reading, Ramil could control minds, so this is overpowered. These 3 vampires compared to only this one Ramil's ability are nothing. And overall common vampires were dying as insects. Like hunters even said in this episode that they don't care about them and they just want to kill Ramil because he is only threat for them. To be fair I don't know why they just didn't leave him in this painting - he couldn't escape alone and they could just lock him somewhere so no one could help him and that's all. War ended and no one would die anymore. But better set him free and kill risking many lives? Or they could kill him instantly like when Punn set him free, Ramil was very weak and he didn't have his powers, so he was easy to kill. But they let him restore his powers and meet with other vampires. I am the only one who thinks it doesn't have any sense?

why do you think Punn is a horrible hunter?

Jett overall is hating only. Like I know first parts of the novel and Jett wasn't like that. In series he is angry from start, but in novel he wasn't like that. I mean he hates vampires ofc, but it's deeper and his behavior is different. To be fair first scenes with Jett were very confusing for me. I think it's worse in the series, because his character is very one sided, just hate and hate all the time.

because it didn't happen in reality, idk if it was just in his mind or what, but Punn clearly looks at his shirt which was cut at this scene on rooftop and his shirt doesn't have any damages. It's why he rushed to rooftop, bcs in this scene on rooftop he dropped his knife there and he didn't find his knife, so again - because this didn't happen. But to be fair I am confused too, because if it was only in his mind then why Ramil told him accurate things there (about his ability to read minds). I thought maybe Ramil used some of his powers about mind reading and he was responsible for this scene on rooftop, but then he doesn't remember this. Maybe it's this connection between them? Like in series it was not explained enough, but before Punn set Ramil free, he had many dreams about Ramil and they were kissing etc. so he was in love with this man from his dreams and it was Ramil, so maybe this scene on rooftop was just one of these dreams. I guess it's only explanation, but in series they didn't show us how close they were because of Punn dreams and they didn't show these dreams at all. If I remember correctly there is just one short scene in first episode where Punn says something about man from his dreams, but that's all. In book it was very important, because it was why Punn couldn't kill Ramil and why he was in love with him and also Ramil read his mind and he saw all these dreams etc. and it's why he also fell in love with Punn and why he trusted him. Like I mean it's base for all their relationship. They should explain this better in series, because people who don't know book probably don't understand it properly and their "I love you" and them having sex feel too fast. When in novel it didn't feel so rushed, because these dreams and their talks/thoughts when living together gave nice fundamental for their love and physical contact. Like I know novel at least some part of it and I still feel confused, so idk how people who don't know novel feel, but I if I wouldn't know anything about novel then I would be very confused especially why they fell in love so fast and go to bed. I guess gmmtv rushed this story and they probably thought these dreams weren't important or they thought one short scene of Punn talking about his dreams would be enough. Idk, but I don't think it would be better in next episodes, probably just as confusing.

don't read it if you don't want to know any spoilers, but yeah, Punn is a Hunter and he killed many vampires before and he tries to kill Ramil too, he has a gun with silver bullets and he wants to kill Ramil, but in the end he can't do that. But later it will be more serious, I don't want to spoil too much

don't read if you don't want to know any spoilers, but you are right, Punn is a Hunter and he killed many vampires and has a collection of their necklaces. In book when he was living with vampires, he has gun with silver and he wants to kill Ramil, but he can't do that, bcs he loves him. Idk if they will do this scene in series, bcs if I remember correctly, Punn tried to kill Ramil at least 2 times

omg that's a big difference! Yeah, I am new to Thai BL, overall BL series with actors and I am very specific person, so idk if I ever will watch it. Because I need to like how main actors look, if they are ugly for me then I won't watch it. But thanks for the info!

omg he is just 20! I mean I thought he would be few years older, especially when his boyfriend in series is 28! Big difference in age, I would say it's first time I see this big difference at this young age.

I am very surprised how many series he did in 2025, most of the time is someone did 1 it's good and he did 7! And with 80-100 episodes some of them. I mean good for him, I just see this first time, maybe bcs I watch mostly Thai BL so I know Thai BL actors the best

No problem, I also was little bit frustrated after reading this, so I need to share (I read second book recently, bcs long time I couldn't find English version so emotions still high 😁). Also after reading this second book I looked at Mark character differently, bcs I understand that he does same thing in first book. I mean he has some doubts, bad thoughts about him and Vee, but he never talk to Vee about it. For example I noticed that Vee is always blamed that he wasn't clear enough, but after he found out about Ploy cheating and he went to Mark he chooses Mark and after Ploy ask for break, Vee is saying to Mark that he is the only one for him from now on. Same with "like" confession and love confession too. Vee confessed that he likes Mark like one day or two after Mark and about love he says it first to Mark. But he is through all book that he isn't clear enough and that Mark obviously is in love with him, but Mark doesn't know what Vee feels. But looking from Vee perspective Mark isn't clear at all. Like Mark is flirting around always, especially with Nuea and when Vee doesn't like it, Mark is just angry and blame Vee for being childish. Also after their big argument on trip, Mark talk with Ken and yeah, Vee went too far with his words, but Mark also punched him and if everyone is saying Mark and Nuea are a couple, it means Mark obviously went too far with him. And Mark says to Ken that he(Ken) should obviously apologize to Bar first. Even when Ken just talked with some girl once, didn't do much, but he still apologize to Bar. But Mark never apologize to Vee for anything. Never. He is always blaming Vee, and Vee always take responsibility as this bad person. But really, even if you aren't official with someone flirting with other guy constantly shouldn't be thing which "feel good". And I noticed that Mark never told Vee directly that he is afraid of being dumped by Vee and that he wants him to be clear. Only thing he does once or twice is saying some stuff about Ploy, but directly he never said anything. Sorry for this long message, but I just noticed that people all blame Vee for everything and they say he is big red flag, but they never say anything about Mark being red flag too. Like Vee is this bad guy, but Mark is just his victim, poor good guy. So I want to point out that Mark isn't that good either. I know people are like that, bcs of their beginning, but also then, Mark was first who assaulted Vee even after Vee pushed him and punched him, Mark still was kissing him and licking him which is assault. Doesn't matter if he thought it is Bar or he knew it's Vee, bcs he still did assault him and he intended to go full way. So I mean it doesn't mean what Vee did wasn't bad, but it means Mark has same attitude and still assaulted him which was also very bad. Like imagine random guy or guy who you don't like is clinging to you and kissing you repeatedly, and licking you, doing hickeys etc. And he doesn't understand word "no". It's awful. So I don't know why people are saying Mark is crystal clear etc. when he clearly isn't. For me talking just about first book, they are both messed up, maybe Vee more, but still, Mark isn't innocent too. That's all, sorry again, it's just frustrating for me, bcs I don't understand why people see only Vee's faults.

they start long distance relationship, bcs Vee has work far away, so it's not easy for them, they don't have time to visit each other. And then when Mark visit Vee as a surprise, Ploy call Vee and she is panicking, bcs she found out that she is pregnant and her boyfriend (Ton) wants her to get abortion. So Vee is confused, but he decides to go to her, bcs he is afraid that she would harm herself and Mark goes with him. And then Mark is afraid that Vee would take Ploy to his house and Vee would leave him for her, so Mark take action and says that he would adopt Ploy's child and takes her to his family house. And asks Vee to take care of her and "their" child. So Vee isn't happy about that, he doesn't feel ready for being a father and also he doesn't care for Ploy this much to take care of her through all pregnancy, but bcs it's what Marks wants, he agrees. And then Vee is going from work to Mark's family house, so he doesn't have any time left to visit Mark. He thought Mark would come often visit. But Mark is distancing himself more and more and it comes to the point that they don't see each other for two months (Mark is always busy and didn't come to his parents house even once for these two months) and they gradually talk less and less. And Vee saw some posts on social media, so he is aware that Mark probably is cheating, but he is too afraid to confront him. Vee thinks that he did everything Mark wants, he was the best for him, like he accept this work just for Mark, to get some money, so Mark's father wouldn't see him as broke and he would accept him and also just to have some money to spend on Mark. So Vee thinks he can't do anything more for Mark, so if Mark is cheating it means Vee isn't enough for him and Vee can't do anything about it. Vee overall is scared and feel defeated. And then Marks finally comes to his parents house and he tells Vee that he was cheating on him for these 2 months. I mean Mark feels something for this guy, they were flirting, overall spending time together, hugging and they kiss one time. That's all, but still two months of emotional cheating and being close with other guy when just basically dumping Vee. So I think Vee forgive him to easily, bcs he just ask about it, ask if Mark will leave him and when Mark said he wants Vee and he is sorry, Vee like instantly forgive him. Looking how he hurts Vee after this kiss with Ploy, it just feels unfair that he got no consequences for cheating. So for me Mark is just an ass, he was scared, so he just go cheating than just talk with Vee about his concerns. Mark even says that if it wasn't Vee, he would already choose this second person and jump in new relationship which for me makes it even worse. Vee is green flag in this book, like seriously I understand Mark didn't feel good that Vee went to help Ploy, but it was justified, bcs she was in a state where she really could harm herself. And other than that Vee did anything bad through all book, he was very caring and was doing everything for Mark, so I understand why he felt like he is not enough for him. But ofc Vee forgives him and they get engaged and few years later they get married and they invite this guy with who Mark was cheating to their wedding. And I guess they live happily ever after. Oh and one more thing - after Mark confess he was cheating, Ploy has accident and she lost her child, so Mark is devastated and Vee takes care of him for long time which was ridiculous for me. Like Mark didn't visit for two months not just Vee but also Ploy and child and then he is caring so much that Vee has to basically wash him, bcs Mark just lay down depressed? And also bcs of that Mark really get no consequences of cheating, bcs Ploy has accident right after he talks with Vee and they rush to hospital, so again Vee is green flag and Mark big red flag for me.

Win goes after Team but of course in the next episode... It is in trailer

lol so u can't think by yourself? sorry, but there are good opinions and bad opinions, if u love UWMA idk why u don't want to watch Between Us? I understand if u try to watch it and u drop it, but if u didn't try and don't watch it because bad opinions? Why u didn't look at good opinions then? It has 8,3/10 stars... For me it is just stupid. If someone told u don't eat because food is bad then u will not eat anymore? Always try and have your opinion...