> abortion is a decision made by the carrier of the baby since it's their body.Yea, it's really not. Being an…
Did you not read my last response? We will most likely never agree on this I don't know why you thought insulting my intelligence once your arguments started to repeat themselves would suddenly change my mind, acting like I'm responsible for you not coming up with anything new...
Bringing up me being a fetus once like I give a fuck. If my mom had aborted me, I wouldn't know about it lol. We will not come to a harmonious conclusion and that's okay, you can be as bigoted as you want.
("Don't worry; if that person was like you, I wouldn't waste my time." Also this quote is so funny to me because like yeah obviously I wouldn't want you to waste your time on me, I don't want children lmao)
> abortion is a decision made by the carrier of the baby since it's their body.Yea, it's really not. Being an…
I took a second to think about it and most of the things mentioned in your comment go against everything I believe in. I think you're allowed to think a certain way in your personal life but your beliefs have nothing to do with me just as much as my beliefs have nothing to do with you unless you try to force me to do what YOU want with MY body. My idea that I can decide over my body is no threat to you, but your idea of controlling women has everything to do with me, hence I voice my opinions on the internet.
The way you think it's lazy that sometimes people just aren't ready for a LIFELONG commitment is crazy and your only other option of putting the child up for adoption is not something that will never work. The adoption industry is a multi million industry filled with human trafficking and that will not get better any time soon. I can bet that you have not done anything to make it better and won't probably in the future either. Your view on responsibility is nothing else than forcing someone to give birth which is terrifying. (I really hope you'll someday come across that one person on tiktok that has gathered a list of over 300 health risk related to pregnancy and maybe you'll start seeing birth givers as people and not incubators)
Just as Ivy already mentioned, people will continue to "fuck around like animals" because it's literally a normal thing to do and your prudish views on sex cannot be applied to other people. Sex is and has for the longest time been more than reproduction it's also pleasure and love between people, nothing wrong with that.
I will never think that something as meaningless as a clump of cells is more important than a living breathing person but I guess you will always think otherwise so I think we won't come into any other conclusion than to disagree on this. I really hope you will never get anyone unwilling pregnant but seeing your views on sex I don't think you'll ever get to do that.
> abortion is a decision made by the carrier of the baby since it's their body.Yea, it's really not. Being an…
It's funny to see how you're not addressing the husband reversing his vasectomy in secret... Also people have to really fight doctors to get sterilized. Most women who want to have it done have to talk to tens of doctors and still might not get it because "they might change their mind". It's not as simple as men getting a vasectomy where you just pretty much walk to the clinic and they do it for you. Also is your solution now for this couple that they would've had the child the other one doesn't want and both get sterilized?? You talk about responsibility and accountability so do you think that the woman who doesn't want her child should raise them too because that a scary way to lock someone into a relationship. And if she doesn't need to raise them, is she only punished with the task of birthing the child? What is responsibility in you books? I think if she already knows she can't take care of them and is ready to have an abortion, that would be the most responsible thing to do rather than birthing them and leaving.
Pregnancy should not be used as a punishment for having sex. People know that there is a possibility and that's why most people use contraceptives. Sometimes they fail already in the act and then you take the morning after pill and sometimes they fail without no one noticing or the other party takes them off without the other party noticing and then you make the decision to have an abortion or not. Abortion is not a thing people do for fun so they can just rawdog all the time it's a last resort when everything else fails, not murder.
> abortion is a decision made by the carrier of the baby since it's their body.Yea, it's really not. Being an…
Your comment is very insensitive. The woman in the drama had an abortion because BOTH parties agreed to not have children when getting married. She does not have to be forced to give birth to a child she never wanted, that will make both her and her child miserable. The husbands actions could be seen as sexual assault since he reversed his vasectomy WITHOUT HER KNOWING. She would not have done the deed with him if he didn't lie about the vasectomy. In no way is she responsible for the contraceptive if he lies to her. We don't even know if she has underlying causes like chronic health issues as a reason to not want children but even if she didn't, you can't force people to become human incubators. It is mentally and physically draining to be pregnant and if we add the unwillingness to be pregnant on top, it can be traumatising. In the right time window abortion is just as murderous as someone having their period, a clump of cells being removed. Also don't even start with the adoption option because ending up in the adoption industry and foster care are both terrible and traumatising options for a child.
People who strongly don't want children and people who do should not have to compromise on anything, if they do, in most cases one of them will end up being unhappy. Just like Bi Chwi said it's a yes or no you either want them or don't, but if you hesitate, things might end up badly for you, your child or both. Of course since it's a such big decision people might have doubts but if you're solely doing it for your partner, you wont actually become a parent to the child. Also Ha Ra's reasoning to have them "because they're cute" does not sound one bit convincing. You have to think about all the other things that come with them being cute like how much money you'll have to spend on them, how much time you'll have to devote to them and you have to also worry about them growing up right. In addition the one carrying the baby also has to worry about all the health risks linked with pregnancy. As someone who will very likely never have children, I will not settle for a partner that doesn't respect my boundaries. Either they have to wait until I'm ready (if that ever even happens) or date someone else. Also even if you are married to someone, that someone does not have rights to your body, abortion is a decision made by the carrier of the baby since it's their body.
Promising first episode 🤗. Very funny. The only thing is, are we supposed to believe that Seung Hyun is less…
I read the first two chapters of the webtoon I while ago and I guess what they left out in the adaptation (or maybe they'll talk about it in the next episode) that he's supposed to be 28-29 and the point is that he's a late bloomer in everything, in both his work life and dating life he has no previous experience
it's kinda weird how they set it up so that people can have crushes on any gender but then only have like two bi/pan people in the mix (who are opposite gender so it changes nothing in their relationship dynamic). like I get what they're going for but in order for it to actually work wouldn't everyone have to be somewhat bisexual? This just feels like it's going to eventually hurt the bi people's feelings... we'll see how this ends...
Ugh I'm starting to feel pretty annoyed with thai dramas these days (not that they were that much different before I'm just getting fed up with this). I can't really even figure out what the plot is supposed to be and the episodes feel more like series of cliche moments than a story. I wish they would focus more on the plot and less on the fanservice and we'd have so many better quality dramas. (Also they really need to stop adapting dramas from books written by people who definetly don't know how to write)
How much of a role does LGBTQ issues play in it? I've been kind of on the fence with this drama but I'm queer…
There are so many things suggesting she's trans. For example when gye sung said "don't forbid me from going on walks, that's the only time I can breathe" when the queen wanted her to focus on studying, the queen saying "look at that painting when you want to see your true self" after they made a portrait of gye sung in a women's hanbok, also her hanbok before changing for the portrait at the end of ep 3 is in the colors of the trans pride flag, the queen having a conversation with her maid saying "I can just imagine how scared she must've been when she realized she can't deny it", and in later in the scene the queen hands gye sung a hairpin from her late mother saying "I was going to give it to my daughter if I ever had one, so it's yours now" and lastly the queen suggesting to her that she won't go through the cohort exams so that she won't feel dysphoric, if she was just cross dressing I don't think there would be a problem with her being the cohort but the queen knows she won't feel comfortable. (+when the 3rd episode fades into the credits they change gye sungs hanbok from the male one to the women's one she has in the portrait). She's definitely not just a boy cross dressing.
How much of a role does LGBTQ issues play in it? I've been kind of on the fence with this drama but I'm queer…
@Zay is not really correct though. One of the princes is clearly a trans woman, it goes beyond cross-dressing and they don't even mention her sexuality. But I totally reccommend this drama the lgbtq+ rep is really good and the drama is intresting on it's own too.
well it's a show intented to create a crew from solo dancers to compete in SMF so of course choreo is important…
I know what the point is but what I'm trying to say that it's sad to see how the korean entertainment industry warps hiphop culture to their liking. The main point of street dance is freestyle and in a show about street dance I would assume that they would center it around freestyle, but that's not what the viewers want to see. Also creating a crew usually means to create a little community for yourselves with who you go to battles to freestyle individually or as groups. A lot of these choreography groups exist and I've been a part of a few but they have little to nothing to do with for example cyphers, jams and battles, where I dance a lot of the time and where street dancers mainly interact with each other. Choreography only came to street dance later from competitive and performative dance styles.
Hmmmmm... I have a lot of thoughts after watching 2/3 of the episodes. This show is really bringing me to the edge of my seat with exciting and unexpected moments and great drama to build the suspense, but it also seems a bit problematic (sorry this isn't the word I actually wanna use but english isn't my first language and I can't think of a better alternative :')). First thing that threw me off was that they did a commercial choreo to pick the respect and retry dancers... is this not a a prequel to the STREET man fighter? I feel like they're putting way too much worth into being able to choreograph and learn fast when it's not really a crucial part of street dance. It was funny watching the men struggle to shake their ass but I'd rather watch them freestyle a lot more. I think that they're doing the same thing that they did with SMTM, which is shaping hiphop culture to make it more entertaining for the masses but then forgetting a lot of important elements. Anyways Xhin slayed, pleased to see at least one waacker in the mix.
who is Aob and why is bltwt losing their minds saying "don't watch this series or I'll block you" and stuff, like…
So what I gathered from Twitter was that gun (atthaphan) was friends with aobs girlfriend (?) and they became friends through her. But then rumors about gun and aob dating started going around which aob seemed to use to get clout by postin pics and and never denying stuff. There was a press conference (I'm not really sure about this tho) where gun gave a very vague answer to the dating rumors just saying that he wasn't being a third wheel in aobs and his gfs relationship. Apparently aob and his friends started to make up more of these rumors to get clout ig and gmm had to even take legal action (?) against him. I'm sorry if there's a lot of inaccuracies it's because I couldn't really find anyone who'd explain the whole situation clearly, this is just what i came to understand. (Also I'm not sure if aob is really an actor, I can't find any of his work other than this.)
if your definition of incest is that then just think that way (even tho its not) just stop the watching the show.
I know there is a lot of step siblings in straight media but like statistically speaking it's way more normalized in bls (probably because writers think it's okay as long as they can't reproduce) I've seen hundreds of straight dramas but I can't think of even one that has stepsiblings in it, on the other hand I can think of at least five bls with this plot. People should stop normalizing incest in all forms it's weird and not even a good trope, it's just wrong.
if your definition of incest is that then just think that way (even tho its not) just stop the watching the show.
I'm glad you're not rude like some other people in the comments that try to completely deny the fact that drama is very problematic. But the writers managed to make their relation ship look extra creepy (not that it wasn't already) by adding the scenes of them as kids. I really don't understand the thing with the stepbrother trope it's really disturbing, and also harms the lgbtq+ community.
if your definition of incest is that then just think that way (even tho its not) just stop the watching the show.
In my opinion it maybe would've been okay if Yong Jie's and Xing Si's parents got married AFTER Yong Jie and Xing Si started dating but it's not like that. Yong Jie was adopted, they were children and grew up as brothers, that's why I find it very problematic. Also a thing that i don't like is the age gap those two have.. (wouldn't be so weird if they weren't brothers)
im not saying its okay, but technically speaking its not incest... sometimes, you just can't help who you fall…
Even if the men in bl are not gay, they're still displaying mlm relationships which doesn't make it any less problematic. I know that there are gay dramas but the line between bls and gay dramas is very blurry and it should not be that way. Bls in my opinion should not be a thing because fetishization in any way is not okay, if these girls want to see lgbt people on screen they should watch gay dramas and not drool over these straight men kissing each other. And for the last time i say normalizing incest is not okay.
Bringing up me being a fetus once like I give a fuck. If my mom had aborted me, I wouldn't know about it lol. We will not come to a harmonious conclusion and that's okay, you can be as bigoted as you want.
("Don't worry; if that person was like you, I wouldn't waste my time." Also this quote is so funny to me because like yeah obviously I wouldn't want you to waste your time on me, I don't want children lmao)
The way you think it's lazy that sometimes people just aren't ready for a LIFELONG commitment is crazy and your only other option of putting the child up for adoption is not something that will never work. The adoption industry is a multi million industry filled with human trafficking and that will not get better any time soon. I can bet that you have not done anything to make it better and won't probably in the future either. Your view on responsibility is nothing else than forcing someone to give birth which is terrifying. (I really hope you'll someday come across that one person on tiktok that has gathered a list of over 300 health risk related to pregnancy and maybe you'll start seeing birth givers as people and not incubators)
Just as Ivy already mentioned, people will continue to "fuck around like animals" because it's literally a normal thing to do and your prudish views on sex cannot be applied to other people. Sex is and has for the longest time been more than reproduction it's also pleasure and love between people, nothing wrong with that.
I will never think that something as meaningless as a clump of cells is more important than a living breathing person but I guess you will always think otherwise so I think we won't come into any other conclusion than to disagree on this. I really hope you will never get anyone unwilling pregnant but seeing your views on sex I don't think you'll ever get to do that.
Also people have to really fight doctors to get sterilized. Most women who want to have it done have to talk to tens of doctors and still might not get it because "they might change their mind". It's not as simple as men getting a vasectomy where you just pretty much walk to the clinic and they do it for you. Also is your solution now for this couple that they would've had the child the other one doesn't want and both get sterilized?? You talk about responsibility and accountability so do you think that the woman who doesn't want her child should raise them too because that a scary way to lock someone into a relationship. And if she doesn't need to raise them, is she only punished with the task of birthing the child? What is responsibility in you books? I think if she already knows she can't take care of them and is ready to have an abortion, that would be the most responsible thing to do rather than birthing them and leaving.
Pregnancy should not be used as a punishment for having sex. People know that there is a possibility and that's why most people use contraceptives. Sometimes they fail already in the act and then you take the morning after pill and sometimes they fail without no one noticing or the other party takes them off without the other party noticing and then you make the decision to have an abortion or not. Abortion is not a thing people do for fun so they can just rawdog all the time it's a last resort when everything else fails, not murder.