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At this point, I have rewatched all episodes and have read most of the comments on here. I would really like to know one thing. What exactly has Mew done in the 6 episodes so far to imply that he is manipulating his friends?
I just feel like a lot of people cannot accept that good and kind people exist, so they would vilify Mew no matter what, even if he hasn't done anything wrong yet. Comments like "no one can be that good" etc genuinely baffles me.
Now, if Mew will change in the coming episodes and what he will be like, i don't know... We'll see but we can't exactly blame him for reacting to an act of betrayal from his close ones. If he does something illegal or commit murder, that will be entirely a different matter but short of that, I do not care if he begins to manipulate but so far, Mew has not manipulated his friends and anyone who disagrees should tell me why with evidence from the first 6 episodes.

If we are talking about motives, it's true Nick recorded Boston having sex with Top but could Nick have predicted that Boston was going to do that with Top in the car that same night?
I think his motive wasn't to record Boston having sex but to know what goes on with Boston when he's not around, which is wrong regardless and I'm not in anyway defending him.
But if comparing Boston's motive and his, it's not just the initial intention that matters but the actions afterwards even more so.

I guess we'll see.
And once again, I agree with you that Boston is not toxic with Nick. I never said he was. If you read my response again, I was talking about what Boston did to his friends. Plus, Boston is not always "honest". He never told Mew he had a video of him and Ray before using it and even after he used it. He only mention it to Ray because he wanted to cause problems between Ray and Sand.
Plus, is Boston actually Honest? Or is he simply a manipulative and gaslighting king who says half truths and lies to manipulate a narrative to suit him. If anything, the only person Boston has ever been truthful to is Nick.

Bro, BTW Nick and Boston, both are toxic. Boston might have recorded his friends 2yrs ago and we might even argue that those two are his friends and so it does not matter but the narrative changes the moment "Boston decided to use that same video to manipuate Top and out Ray to Sand, while insisting Ray and Mew had sex despite those two saying otherwise ". Boston is not better than Nick. They are both Nasty. Btw both, atleast Nick recognises what he did was wrong, which is why he did not necessarily do anything with that video beside showing Sand, but does Boston realise the repercussions of all he did?
Plus, you mentioned that Top looked scared when Mew played the recording because Top didn't know such existed but Top looking scared could be because he's afraid he's been caught and he does not want to lose Mew.
The difference between both scenerios is that, Top atleast got to witness Mew's expressions when Mew played the video and we were about to see Top's reaction as well, but Mew was not so lucky to see the picture/recording of him and Ray when Top learnt about it. We would have gotten to see Mew's expression as well cos I'm sure Mew did not know he and Ray were recorded and he sure as heck did not expect a future potential boyfriend will be manipulated with it and the said boy will not have the courtesy of speaking to him about it but go straight to strapping his bestie.
We could argue these all day.
But I stand by the fact that Nick, Boston, Top, Sand and Ray are all toxic and in a sane world, what Nick and Boston did could be seen as illegal, Nick's moreso than Boston, but none better than the other.

I know. I'm simping for him.

@taeshain Very laughable indeed! Nick did something criminal and Ray did something shitty to his friends but of course both of them are still seen to be babies to be protected at all cost. I truly wonder how most of these commenters who think like this would react if they were ever victims of such acts in real life. Because it seem like the cute guys get a pass in fiction.

The only way to stop Ray was exactly what Mew did, but even at that, most viewers still didn't understand. They crucified Mew for that. Even Sand tried to stop him but look at the humiliation he received in front of the whole pub.

@taeshain Just to say until you've read all the comments which are over 6000, then don't just assume no one is criticing Nick or that everyone sympathises with him and vilifies Boston. I'm very sure some of us have done enough of that on the very day each episodes are released.
Unfortunately, majority will always have the most voice.
I did say on Saturday that characters like Nick and Ray will always garner more sympathy from the viewers because of the way they are portrayed, so sometimes, we need to think objectively, instead of with bias or emotions.
What Nick did is obviously a criminla act and also illegal. Even in the emotional aspect, Ton was clear from day 1 and even up until now. It's up to Nick to let go, but he wouldn't. So I'm just sitting here watching the fun and i really am not invested in any couple. Nope, not a single one but I'm glad a series like this exist. We get to see life situations and how partial people truly are!

@oddsare I like the way you put your thoughts into words and your grammer. Are you a writer or into literature?

You are right. We as individuals are all different in our own ways. Some people allow themselves get hurt by the same people all over and over again before they learn and cut them off. Others will detach themselves and yet another will simply cut such people loose. Whichever it is, I think as individuals in as much as we preach the whole forgiveness thing, we should forgive those deserving only and above all, we should always look after ourselves first before others. That's not selfishness.
Mew did a lot for Ray but Mew is still seen as a bad friend simply because Ray is on a path of self destruction and is deem as pitiful and of course, poor Mew who is not into his friend romantically is thought to have not tried hard enough to help his drunk friend.
Honestly, I would cut all these people out of my life and start anew. These are all toxic people to surround myself with.
I'm probably among the few who is not sympathetic towards Ray. I think he's an adult and it's about time he starts taking responsibility for himself and his behaviour.

Which part was Top honest yo Mew? The part where he was about gaslighting Mew by saying "it was before he met you?" But then, Mew reminded him it happened again. Even if they weren't dating officially, he was courting Mew at the time, yet he slept with Mew's bestie. That's also a betrayal.
Nah! Even if he had stated that in real life, it still won't hold water to anyone with pride.
Poor Mew. Betrayed by both Bestie and Boyfriend. Personally, I'll end any relationship with the two cos I can never trust either again.

I don't think Mew masterminded anything. He couldn't have been able to predict and planned all the individual moves and decisions all his friends made. If he did, he wouldn't simply be a villain. He would be a God!
But I feel like this hurt and betrayal will /spurn push him into becoming a Villain.

You're dead right on that

I've had one as well. This is why i just look at everyone sympathising with him and calling Mew a bad friend. Sometimes, you cant change anyone.

I agree with you @oddsare. He might just drag others down with him. Plus, him being with Sand at the moment isn't ideal. Ray is like an addict. Sand is a dealer... Ray needs rehabilitation and therapy, not love, until he's able to love himself.

I find it interesting people that even up until now, people still think Mew is manipulating Top? Do you realize how hurt Mew was in that last scene and his feeling of inadequacy and not being enough? I'm rather worried this would spurn him into a deadly path.

If he doesn't stop, he's gonna end up in an emergency room.
I know Sand has his faults but he atleast tried to stop him from driving drunk but Ray pushed him away. No responsibility to himself, to his friends and to the general public. He will put other people's life at risk because "the world isn't fair to him".
To those saying why Mew didn't take Ray to therapy, I suppose Mew have to had tied him up with ropes and drag him to see a therapist.

You're right. Before now, he wasn't a bad person but after now, i wonder if he'll become a villain or decide to sleep around to gain experience.

Finally, someone agrees with me.. it's insane how much sympathy characters like Ray draws from the viewers. I mean, it's always about Ray bla bla bla. I asked in my previous comments, what exactly have we seen Ray doing for his friends? Friendship is not a one-way street or one-sided. His friends have their own problems as well. How much longer do we have to focus on "saving" and babysitting him?
Frankly, Mew tried. Throughout their years of friendship, he didnt abadon Ray.. The only thing is, he is not into Ray and all of a sudden, all that doesn't count?. Sand is now seen as the only person who genuinely likes Ray and Mew is seen as an awful friend? Goodluck to those with a hero complex in real life. They don't know how hard it is trying to save someone who does not want to be saved.

They all drank together but that isn't why Mew scolded him. It's because after drinking, Ray went to the toilet to hide and take drugs...