Aw...you seem as simple as Oxin.I didn't even remember who you were talking about that's how much them not being…
Not looking for a fight, but i wanna give you my POV here. To be fair you were the one saying that everything was so good with this series so the problem for us was Win and Sky not being there. So, you were the one belittling 99% of this comment section for truly having key issues with the show and completely disregarded all the comments we have been posting daily and weekly about all those major issues that we have with this series and made it all look like we are litle fangirls throwing tantrums because certain actors aren't there. That's why i also believe that Oxin would hire you on the spot, that's basically what they made with the plot, a gaslighting recipe of how a partner and awefull circle of friends and family can make you blind to the pain they are giving you and make you believe that it's all on you, your issue, they do no wrong.
I decided to give it a go even if i never like Oxin series all that much but man... this is next level trash but in terms of plot!! We have a protagonist, Fifth, that it's the most pitiful person ever, his boyfriend cheats on him, belitles his emotions, disgregards his feelings, only thinks about himself and only he matters, throws emotional abuse at him over and over again... and somehow he is the culprit and all his friends treat him that way as well. They all make him feel so not worth of any good that he started to feel that way and be the one that is sad, sorry and asking for forgiveness and fighting to get back a guy that has made his self worth dissapear. And this is not the start of a series where everything will change and he will leave all this people behind, this is his entire life and story, we are at ep 10 out of 13. I cannot get on my mind how this is any good, since when the bad guy gets the happiness and everything goes his way and the good guy is gaslighted, abused and still gets the pain over and over from everyone he loves? What kind of moral this series has? it's ok to not have self worth as long as you get a boyfriend, even if he abuses and cheats on you it's ok because you deserve that? WHAT THE ACTUAL F
I'm in awe at how this drama has such great ratings. Each one their own but for me this was a HUGE dissapointment, the plot lacks so hard and the second half of the drama is such a mess and characters act all over the place. How i wish they stopped the story at episode 8 when it still was cohesive, made sense and characters weren't ruined.
The series (although didn't touch upon the second part of the novel when Jom time traveled to 1767), ends exactly…
I get that , yes, but my focus is on how the series could be better by itself since i don't see this as a joint thing that if somethings feels missing is ok as long as we get it in the novels, to me one thing is the novels and another the series as a series. Those extra chapters are pivotal to grow this story in my eyes and we have gotten those in novel form for a reason. for the ending of the series, for the story, to me is a must needed pay off, it lacked a bit when they don't give those emotions. I felt like it ended but something was still missing. My hope relies on the special episode, they may explore this and see that unfold there, hopefully.
This is brilliant, straight to my top 10, but if something 2 things would made this a 10 instead of a 9.5 for me: 1. More of their present, SPECIALLY i needed to see current Yai finding out about their past lifes and waiting to meet Jom 2. More desperation and feels from Yai on the reunion. I get that for him is his past life not this one but idk, he was so calm and still... i missed the loving Yai we all knew.
First time something like this happens to me, i can see that i got a reply with emails and see the conversation when i'm logged out but when i'm logged in i cannot and for that i cannot reply. I'm guessing someone denounced my comments... But whatever, it probably will be fixed as soon as support reads them, so is not about that.
I'm very into this topic, so sorry if i say too much, but because i'm a high school teacher in my country and saw a lot of pain on this topic, i really care about educating from awareness, understanding, putting ourselves in each other's shoes... i believe this is how we make a difference, by not being bystanders or someone that neglects others or tell them not to speak out about their pain and their realities because it may trigger others, that's exactly what is needed, to trigger and make people think about it, understand the consecuences and feel empathy so we want to make changes. Queer representation needs fantasy love stories where being gay is the norm and all the bl sweetness, but they also need to show real stories of what people go through to make a change. I'm really happy that we are getting this representation on media, being one of the most powerful tools of the XXI century. In case you haven't seen it, there's a movie about this topic called Prayers for Bobby that i have used in class for this exact reason, and if you wanna reflect about religion & sexual identity is a great representation. Even just the mother speech at the end will give you a lot of realization, so here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=816326635573846
The writer used his personal religious upbringing and conflict with his sexuality to make some art. It’s absolutely…
So, let's be clear here, you can say that we should limit art, not a fan of using religion on gay content because it can "trigger people" but now people cannot reply on why what you are thinking is invalidation of one of the most vital aspects of queer identity?
What you cannot stand is people to challenge your views, to put you in front of the mirror, you didn't even tried to undersand such an important part of the community, to actually care about queer issues. you just wanted to stay in your high horse of "i said what i said" and tell people to ignore and not reply and express our own opinions on a comment that you have made on a comment section haha So you can express your opinion but god forbid others to express theirs and challenge yours. Don't make public comments if you cannot take others to think differently and criticism. And for the record, to me what you did is way ruder than what you think rude means.
What i am is sad and shocked to see this behaviour in the BL comunity when we should be caring about queer issues, so i'll rather comment a million times when i see something like this to make sure that if a gay person that is struggling with religion and their identity comes across to your comment, see that for one like yours is one like mine, someone that is here for them to express, to be heard, that they shouldn't be scared of telling their stories on media for others to see and be part of the change, that this is not about "doing it on a smart way so people don't get offended" but more about showing what someone has gone through, sometimes scary, sometimes ugly and highlight it. And for all that representation is CRUCIAL.
Just like queer was taboo not that long ago on media, now you rather make religion on queer media taboo. If you don't want to reflect on this fine, but i'm going to open that door and thankfully this series will do a million times more than what i alone would, if you like it or not.
The writer used his personal religious upbringing and conflict with his sexuality to make some art. It’s absolutely…
Religion is one of the most common issues a gay person has had to fight against SINCE EVER and a lot of times one of the biggest causes of gay people suicide, mental ilness, conversion therapy, family acceptance problems... DISCRIMINATION!!! It has been one of the top batles to fight against and it's still to this day for a lot of queer people.
Why on earth the genre that covers gay relationships should avoid such a fundamental part of their reality? to keep sweeping under the rug their strugles? to content some of the people that are the cause of them being unrecognized and demoniced?
If you are someone that watches bl or queer content you are supposed to, if not queer, be someone that understands and wants to help and "be an ally" to make the world better for them to be in, accepted and normalized, and for that this topics and their realities NEED TO BE SHOWN.
I enjoyed the movie, is basically a way for you to reflect on the topic of death and how people deal with it. Now, how infuriating. The "friend" and the girl keep blaming and putting down the guy that is sick, telling him that he is the bad guy and they want nothing to do with him because he decided that he didn't want to live yet as a sick person in the eyes of the ones close to him. He is freaking dying being a teen, he just wanna live a normal life longer, have normal experiences, laugh at least for a few hours before the pain puts him down, before he can not longer breath... IT'S HIS CHOICE!!!! Terrible people that have no empathy, SCUMBAGS. They call him egoist while their reasons to call him that are their own egoistic reasons itself and decide to CUT TIES with him because he is sick and is burden for their future... You were never his friend and you never had honest care or feelling for him in the slightest. How can you be in front of a person that you fancy, while looking at his face that it's debastated, in pain and clearly sick to a point of barely being still alive and tell him that he is an egoist for telling you that they like you just before dying? At least have some humanity in you. She is just a kid with no maturity and totally doesn't like him for real, just the thought of being with a cute smart guy, but there are a million leveles between showing that you are a kid that doesn't know how to handle such a thing and being a piece of trash that steps over a person that it's dying and makes his last days more miserable. If you ask me, they are the demons that he and the nice guy were talking about. At least he meet this nice friend that gave him a nice peacefull memory. I'm just really sorry for him and since the movie made me have all this reflexion... you can clearly see that it was worth it to me.
To be fair you were the one saying that everything was so good with this series so the problem for us was Win and Sky not being there.
So, you were the one belittling 99% of this comment section for truly having key issues with the show and completely disregarded all the comments we have been posting daily and weekly about all those major issues that we have with this series and made it all look like we are litle fangirls throwing tantrums because certain actors aren't there.
That's why i also believe that Oxin would hire you on the spot, that's basically what they made with the plot, a gaslighting recipe of how a partner and awefull circle of friends and family can make you blind to the pain they are giving you and make you believe that it's all on you, your issue, they do no wrong.
We have a protagonist, Fifth, that it's the most pitiful person ever, his boyfriend cheats on him, belitles his emotions, disgregards his feelings, only thinks about himself and only he matters, throws emotional abuse at him over and over again... and somehow he is the culprit and all his friends treat him that way as well. They all make him feel so not worth of any good that he started to feel that way and be the one that is sad, sorry and asking for forgiveness and fighting to get back a guy that has made his self worth dissapear. And this is not the start of a series where everything will change and he will leave all this people behind, this is his entire life and story, we are at ep 10 out of 13.
I cannot get on my mind how this is any good, since when the bad guy gets the happiness and everything goes his way and the good guy is gaslighted, abused and still gets the pain over and over from everyone he loves? What kind of moral this series has? it's ok to not have self worth as long as you get a boyfriend, even if he abuses and cheats on you it's ok because you deserve that?
WHAT THE ACTUAL F
How i wish they stopped the story at episode 8 when it still was cohesive, made sense and characters weren't ruined.
Those extra chapters are pivotal to grow this story in my eyes and we have gotten those in novel form for a reason. for the ending of the series, for the story, to me is a must needed pay off, it lacked a bit when they don't give those emotions. I felt like it ended but something was still missing. My hope relies on the special episode, they may explore this and see that unfold there, hopefully.
1. More of their present, SPECIALLY i needed to see current Yai finding out about their past lifes and waiting to meet Jom
2. More desperation and feels from Yai on the reunion. I get that for him is his past life not this one but idk, he was so calm and still... i missed the loving Yai we all knew.
Everything else, masterpiece.
I'm very into this topic, so sorry if i say too much, but because i'm a high school teacher in my country and saw a lot of pain on this topic, i really care about educating from awareness, understanding, putting ourselves in each other's shoes... i believe this is how we make a difference, by not being bystanders or someone that neglects others or tell them not to speak out about their pain and their realities because it may trigger others, that's exactly what is needed, to trigger and make people think about it, understand the consecuences and feel empathy so we want to make changes.
Queer representation needs fantasy love stories where being gay is the norm and all the bl sweetness, but they also need to show real stories of what people go through to make a change. I'm really happy that we are getting this representation on media, being one of the most powerful tools of the XXI century.
In case you haven't seen it, there's a movie about this topic called Prayers for Bobby that i have used in class for this exact reason, and if you wanna reflect about religion & sexual identity is a great representation. Even just the mother speech at the end will give you a lot of realization, so here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=816326635573846
Now i'll be quiet and wait for the series haha
What you cannot stand is people to challenge your views, to put you in front of the mirror, you didn't even tried to undersand such an important part of the community, to actually care about queer issues. you just wanted to stay in your high horse of "i said what i said" and tell people to ignore and not reply and express our own opinions on a comment that you have made on a comment section haha
So you can express your opinion but god forbid others to express theirs and challenge yours. Don't make public comments if you cannot take others to think differently and criticism.
And for the record, to me what you did is way ruder than what you think rude means.
What i am is sad and shocked to see this behaviour in the BL comunity when we should be caring about queer issues, so i'll rather comment a million times when i see something like this to make sure that if a gay person that is struggling with religion and their identity comes across to your comment, see that for one like yours is one like mine, someone that is here for them to express, to be heard, that they shouldn't be scared of telling their stories on media for others to see and be part of the change, that this is not about "doing it on a smart way so people don't get offended" but more about showing what someone has gone through, sometimes scary, sometimes ugly and highlight it.
And for all that representation is CRUCIAL.
Just like queer was taboo not that long ago on media, now you rather make religion on queer media taboo. If you don't want to reflect on this fine, but i'm going to open that door and thankfully this series will do a million times more than what i alone would, if you like it or not.
Why on earth the genre that covers gay relationships should avoid such a fundamental part of their reality? to keep sweeping under the rug their strugles? to content some of the people that are the cause of them being unrecognized and demoniced?
If you are someone that watches bl or queer content you are supposed to, if not queer, be someone that understands and wants to help and "be an ally" to make the world better for them to be in, accepted and normalized, and for that this topics and their realities NEED TO BE SHOWN.
Now, how infuriating.
The "friend" and the girl keep blaming and putting down the guy that is sick, telling him that he is the bad guy and they want nothing to do with him because he decided that he didn't want to live yet as a sick person in the eyes of the ones close to him.
He is freaking dying being a teen, he just wanna live a normal life longer, have normal experiences, laugh at least for a few hours before the pain puts him down, before he can not longer breath... IT'S HIS CHOICE!!!! Terrible people that have no empathy, SCUMBAGS.
They call him egoist while their reasons to call him that are their own egoistic reasons itself and decide to CUT TIES with him because he is sick and is burden for their future... You were never his friend and you never had honest care or feelling for him in the slightest.
How can you be in front of a person that you fancy, while looking at his face that it's debastated, in pain and clearly sick to a point of barely being still alive and tell him that he is an egoist for telling you that they like you just before dying? At least have some humanity in you. She is just a kid with no maturity and totally doesn't like him for real, just the thought of being with a cute smart guy, but there are a million leveles between showing that you are a kid that doesn't know how to handle such a thing and being a piece of trash that steps over a person that it's dying and makes his last days more miserable.
If you ask me, they are the demons that he and the nice guy were talking about. At least he meet this nice friend that gave him a nice peacefull memory.
I'm just really sorry for him and since the movie made me have all this reflexion... you can clearly see that it was worth it to me.