Your post repeats a string of factual assertions about Kim Soo Hyun that are unproven and presented as fact. That…
granny. you're still going at it? lmaooooooooooooo i've never seen such a crazy parasocial before. 💀
lmao 'local bar'? granny, are you for real? 💀tell me you don't know about the state bar without telling me you know nothing about the state bar.
your local bar is where you get a pint so you can continue to fantasize about a predator. the california state bar exam is what you pass to become a lawyer. maybe google it next time before you try to drag a professional qualification you clearly know nothing about lmfaooo do you even know how notoriously difficult it is to pass it first time? it's like calling the SAT a "school district test."
this is so embarrassing for you, granny. just take the L.
now, using a veneer of pseudo-intellectualism and condescension to mask a fundamentally weak, deflective, and morally bankrupt position isn't going to do anything on here, granny.
your entire response is a pathetic attempt at gish gallop. i usually can thoroughly dismantle arguments like this but i don't like to bc i like to be real and casual online.
and you're using loosely related legal jargon to avoid the central, horrific facts of this case, granny. that won't do.
your attempt to pivot to a lecture on international law and jurisdiction is as transparent as it is irrelevant. i grew up on the internet. i've seen poseurs like you everywhere. when you can't defend the indefensible actions of a man, you try to baffle with bullshit.
your argument is inherently stupid, because we are not in a court of law. we are in the court of public opinion. the "evidence" we are discussing, the letter, the videos, the selfies are already public. they were published by media outlets. we are all commenting on publicly available information.
granny~~~~ you're moving the goalposts. you're pretending the conversation is about a formal legal trial when it's about public morality and ethics. we don't need a judge to tell us that a 30-year-old man writing "I miss you" and "let's go to school together" to a minor is creepy and wrong.
don't lose your marbles over something as simple as this.
this isn't a pretrial motion, gran. it's a moral judgment on his documented, predatory actions.
again, LMAOOOOOOOO
i brought up the 1st Amendment to illustrate the principle of free speech because you were crying about DEFAMATION! in a public forum, not to claim legal jurisdiction over a korean actor. you deliberately misconstruing your analogy as a literal legal claim, which is irrelevant, and stupid af.
you started this by issuing pseudo-legal threats about 'private international law' and 'defamatory dissemination' to try and bully critics into silence. i was asserting my right to free speech on a matter of public concern. you cannot defend the actual facts:
1. he was 30-year-old man and a 17-year-old girl at the time when he wrote her the letter. 2. i'm korean american. the letter is intimate, and filled with grooming language. full stop. 3. the fact of the home-cooked meal during his leave. he went to her instead of his actual gf. 4. the fact that she died on his birthday.
you can write a thousand paragraphs on jurisdiction and complicity. it doesn't change the reality of what he did. you're not a legal scholar, gran. lmaoooo you are a parasocial fan using inapplicable legal-sounding words to defend the indefensible. it is transparent, it is pathetic, and it is over.
the morality of a 30-year-old grooming a 17-year-old is universal. it is condemned by basic human decency in the US, Korea, and everywhere else. well unless you're from some country that condone this? shake off your pantaloons, granny. international law on treaties has absolutely nothing to do with this.
you've bizarrely twisted a simple analogy about free speech principles into a strawman argument about international law. my point was never about legal jurisdiction. it was about the ethical condemnation of predatory behavior, which is universal.
i stated my opinions based on a publicly available letter. calling his actions "predatory" or "grooming" based on the text he wrote is a protected opinion by the 1st amendment, not a provably false statement of fact.
discussing the documented contents of his own letter and calling it as it is-----GROOMING----- is not defamation. it's commentary. you haven't passed the bar, so try to understand the difference, granny.
while you're busy playing amateur lawyer on an asian drama review site, you are completely ignoring the actual case: a grown man used intimate language, shared fantasies about being a teenager with her, and asked a minor for emotional care. that girl is now dead, and you are spending your energy writing legalistic apologies for the man at the center of her tragedy.
granny, do you know? no amount of jurisdictional jargon will ever erase that.
i took 23 mins to write this holy shit because i couldn't stand your insanity. i had to do it. but really now, don't respond to me anymore. this will be my final reply to you because lmaooooooooooooooo i'm not wasting my time on someone like you who's clearly stupid, has no knowledge of the law, has no degree but spends all your time defending a pdo and yet claim that you have a "life". pls. what life? look at your posts throughout this page. 🤣🤣
Oh, nobody knew that you were responsible for the investigation and sending the evidence. What a huge error by…
?????????????? you mean you don't know that the korean age was never used in legal, administrative and medical contexts? international age has always been used since the 1960s, i suggest you educate yourself. i can't help ppl who want to be spoonfed and then reject what they're taught. i especially can't help ppl who are determined to be a mindless parasocial.
his psycho fans still defending him cause he has pretty face, but good people will remember how evil he is.
he's not even that handsome imo...... and even if someone is good-looking, so what. a pdf is a pdf srsly, his whole behaviour at the press conference before and after, and these past few months... only for him to come up with something like this. "diary" ????? lol this isn't even a convincing piece of evidence.
You are a very evil and wicked person. This seed of evil you have sown to someone you don't even know will definitely…
lmao and you're the one who first accused me of hate?!?!?! while you're all over this page defending him like a crazed parasocial. like, you've been camping here for weeks supporting everything that absolves him while getting incensed over people who think differently. you're the one who lacks critical thinking and blind yourself to facts. srsly i haven't met a single ksh fan who can think reasonably. every argument just crumbles in the face of simple common sense.
????? this isn't evidence to me. 1. no names on the diary entries. the girl he meant in the diary could well be kim sae ron. 2. the diary entries are so short. but he wrote saeron a whole letter. 3. he claims that he "showed" these diary entries to his gf when he went on military break. but why write diary entries? why not just send letters???? 4. he claims he met his gf during his military break. but he went and met saeron instead???? 5. in the diary dated "2018" he wrote about the love he had for his gf. but he got over this "deep love" quickly and dated saeron after that???
everything is wrong with this "evidence". who buys it? not me.
You are a very evil and wicked person. This seed of evil you have sown to someone you don't even know will definitely…
lmao i don't even hate him. i don't think of him outside of mdl. i log into mydramalist, i see news, i see mentions, i drop my own 2 cents. your idolization of him is blinding you to facts. full stop.
You are a very evil and wicked person. This seed of evil you have sown to someone you don't even know will definitely…
lmao you can believe he's innocent because according to you, "there's no concrete proof". so blind yourself to it. the existing proof is already enough for me. end of story.
worrying and being pressed bout some1 who doesn't give 2 fvks about ur existence or opinion is really crazy
worrying for the well-being of a pdf who doesn't even know about your existence, who sees you as a "blurred face" during fanmeets, and only cares if your opinion affects him economically is really crazy
I’d recommend putting your diary aside for a moment and trying that thing called a brain. Because, you know,…
and i recommend you find a better hobby than shilling for a liar and a faker who isn't even that good an actor. he can be the "greatest" actor (he's overrated for the most part) or most "handsome" dude (i don't think he looks that good anyway) but a pdf file is a pdf file. rip peace
I’d recommend putting your diary aside for a moment and trying that thing called a brain. Because, you know,…
where? where was the proof that official records were checked? where's the statement from the military base? y'all aunties lying out of your orifices like dayum
Your post repeats a string of factual assertions about Kim Soo Hyun that are unproven and presented as fact. That…
1. you just admitted that he lied during the Queen of Tears. this is the first time. the second time is when kim se ui outed him. he denied it until pics were released. these are 2 times. you don't know how to count? 2. he did date her when she was a minor. did you see saeron's old posts on X ? did you see the chats? i don't know why you claim the chats are fake when the NFS has not even declared them fake. 3. lmao that totally skipped over your head. please reread what i wrote. 4. why should i trust the actor's representatives? lmao again you're wild, auntie. 5. defamation lmfao it's an opinion. a korean netizen wrote it. and the quote is everywhere on X. i lifted it and posted it here. you want to sue someone for an opinion? check the 1st amendment of the US constitution 6. he said his parents were present. go look up his statements in march. also, whichever family member is present does not negate my point that saeron would have cooked the other members' share 100%. there's no way anyone would exclude others from eating what she cooked. you can't debunk any of my points like, y'all have no reading comprehension, and have really awful reasoning abilities sheez.
HAHAHAHA you checked facts for 30 seconds? don't lie, auntie. i know that you fans spend the whole day on every platform defending him. that's 24 hours x 7 days x 7 months so far.
lmao 'local bar'? granny, are you for real? 💀tell me you don't know about the state bar without telling me you know nothing about the state bar.
your local bar is where you get a pint so you can continue to fantasize about a predator. the california state bar exam is what you pass to become a lawyer. maybe google it next time before you try to drag a professional qualification you clearly know nothing about lmfaooo do you even know how notoriously difficult it is to pass it first time? it's like calling the SAT a "school district test."
this is so embarrassing for you, granny. just take the L.
now, using a veneer of pseudo-intellectualism and condescension to mask a fundamentally weak, deflective, and morally bankrupt position isn't going to do anything on here, granny.
your entire response is a pathetic attempt at gish gallop. i usually can thoroughly dismantle arguments like this but i don't like to bc i like to be real and casual online.
and you're using loosely related legal jargon to avoid the central, horrific facts of this case, granny. that won't do.
your attempt to pivot to a lecture on international law and jurisdiction is as transparent as it is irrelevant. i grew up on the internet. i've seen poseurs like you everywhere. when you can't defend the indefensible actions of a man, you try to baffle with bullshit.
your argument is inherently stupid, because we are not in a court of law. we are in the court of public opinion. the "evidence" we are discussing, the letter, the videos, the selfies are already public. they were published by media outlets. we are all commenting on publicly available information.
granny~~~~ you're moving the goalposts. you're pretending the conversation is about a formal legal trial when it's about public morality and ethics. we don't need a judge to tell us that a 30-year-old man writing "I miss you" and "let's go to school together" to a minor is creepy and wrong.
don't lose your marbles over something as simple as this.
this isn't a pretrial motion, gran. it's a moral judgment on his documented, predatory actions.
again, LMAOOOOOOOO
i brought up the 1st Amendment to illustrate the principle of free speech because you were crying about DEFAMATION! in a public forum, not to claim legal jurisdiction over a korean actor. you deliberately misconstruing your analogy as a literal legal claim, which is irrelevant, and stupid af.
you started this by issuing pseudo-legal threats about 'private international law' and 'defamatory dissemination' to try and bully critics into silence. i was asserting my right to free speech on a matter of public concern. you cannot defend the actual facts:
1. he was 30-year-old man and a 17-year-old girl at the time when he wrote her the letter.
2. i'm korean american. the letter is intimate, and filled with grooming language. full stop.
3. the fact of the home-cooked meal during his leave. he went to her instead of his actual gf.
4. the fact that she died on his birthday.
you can write a thousand paragraphs on jurisdiction and complicity. it doesn't change the reality of what he did. you're not a legal scholar, gran. lmaoooo you are a parasocial fan using inapplicable legal-sounding words to defend the indefensible. it is transparent, it is pathetic, and it is over.
the morality of a 30-year-old grooming a 17-year-old is universal. it is condemned by basic human decency in the US, Korea, and everywhere else. well unless you're from some country that condone this?
shake off your pantaloons, granny. international law on treaties has absolutely nothing to do with this.
you've bizarrely twisted a simple analogy about free speech principles into a strawman argument about international law. my point was never about legal jurisdiction. it was about the ethical condemnation of predatory behavior, which is universal.
i stated my opinions based on a publicly available letter. calling his actions "predatory" or "grooming" based on the text he wrote is a protected opinion by the 1st amendment, not a provably false statement of fact.
discussing the documented contents of his own letter and calling it as it is-----GROOMING----- is not defamation. it's commentary. you haven't passed the bar, so try to understand the difference, granny.
while you're busy playing amateur lawyer on an asian drama review site, you are completely ignoring the actual case: a grown man used intimate language, shared fantasies about being a teenager with her, and asked a minor for emotional care. that girl is now dead, and you are spending your energy writing legalistic apologies for the man at the center of her tragedy.
granny, do you know? no amount of jurisdictional jargon will ever erase that.
i took 23 mins to write this holy shit because i couldn't stand your insanity. i had to do it. but really now, don't respond to me anymore. this will be my final reply to you because lmaooooooooooooooo i'm not wasting my time on someone like you who's clearly stupid, has no knowledge of the law, has no degree but spends all your time defending a pdo and yet claim that you have a "life". pls. what life? look at your posts throughout this page. 🤣🤣
i can't help ppl who want to be spoonfed and then reject what they're taught. i especially can't help ppl who are determined to be a mindless parasocial.
you can continue to defend him as you wish. maybe he'll send you a thank you card? kek.
i won't take down my opinions. because i know i make sense more than you.
srsly, his whole behaviour at the press conference before and after, and these past few months... only for him to come up with something like this.
"diary" ????? lol this isn't even a convincing piece of evidence.
1. no names on the diary entries. the girl he meant in the diary could well be kim sae ron.
2. the diary entries are so short. but he wrote saeron a whole letter.
3. he claims that he "showed" these diary entries to his gf when he went on military break. but why write diary entries? why not just send letters????
4. he claims he met his gf during his military break. but he went and met saeron instead????
5. in the diary dated "2018" he wrote about the love he had for his gf. but he got over this "deep love" quickly and dated saeron after that???
everything is wrong with this "evidence". who buys it? not me.
2. he did date her when she was a minor. did you see saeron's old posts on X ? did you see the chats? i don't know why you claim the chats are fake when the NFS has not even declared them fake.
3. lmao that totally skipped over your head. please reread what i wrote.
4. why should i trust the actor's representatives? lmao again you're wild, auntie.
5. defamation lmfao it's an opinion. a korean netizen wrote it. and the quote is everywhere on X. i lifted it and posted it here. you want to sue someone for an opinion? check the 1st amendment of the US constitution
6. he said his parents were present. go look up his statements in march. also, whichever family member is present does not negate my point that saeron would have cooked the other members' share 100%. there's no way anyone would exclude others from eating what she cooked. you can't debunk any of my points like, y'all have no reading comprehension, and have really awful reasoning abilities sheez.
HAHAHAHA you checked facts for 30 seconds? don't lie, auntie.
i know that you fans spend the whole day on every platform defending him. that's 24 hours x 7 days x 7 months so far.