Such a stupid ending. They took a wonderful series and screwed it up. Aey had no ending. Needed to know more about Tiff and Tum. Really wanted to see Tam get screwed when Nubsib signed with T&T. And what's with someone else actually being the writer. This strayed completely away from the story of outting the BL industry and became your everyday Rom-Com. I really enjoyed the series up till the fairy tales.
I needed more drama less stupidity. If they are having an episode 13, I hope they redo this one completely.
This didn't satisfy me need for a solid ending. I feel cheated, if that's the book the author wrote it appears she suffered like Gene did with not knowing how to end the story.
It's not just that they can't see each other for 4 months. They were also being forced to lie in a press conference…
I'm hoping the preview for next week is just a smoke screen. Gene laying there on the floor all bummed out, the apartment a mess. I think Gene's dad gave Gene a good talking to because Gene told his dad he loved Nubsib and was ready to fight for that love like he himself didn't do. Gene feels like he's letting his down so he goes back to Nubsib and together they go to the press conference tell the truth and if they don't like it they can go f... themselves. I think Aey will be there to back them up. This will be his healing. If they breakup because of the fans then this whole series was a huge waste of time. I hope they stand up to the fans and production company. Gene gets a new publisher. Hin follows Hin and his book becomes a big hit. Aey will hook up with Mhok. I'm not happy with Tiffy but Tum needs his happy ending. In the end Tum, Tiffy, Sib, Gene and Hin will start their own agency and put Tam out of business. Will that work for everyone?
I feel Gene believes he's loving Nubsib by letting go. Remember that he took the beating from Sib's mom. I think he is caring for Nubsib in his own way, and in no way can it be considered the easy way to deal with it. Remember he just came out of the closet and now he's being ask to go back and take Nubsib with him. 4 months of sneaking around behind everyone's back will destroy their new love, it will make it feel like it's something dirty to be ashamed of. Always looking behind your back to see who is watching. Eventually it will become easier and easier to avoid each other, not wanting to slip up and cause even more pain. And some in the LGBTQ community already spend too much time hidding their relationships, why would they be asked to do it again just so everyone can make a bigger profit? Everyone calling Gene a coward, he is the bravest of the bunch. It's like volunteering to go to the front line during war knowing you could die but your doing it protect everything you love most. I'm heartbroken for Gene and Nubsib both. Nubsib's biggest need is Gene, nothing else matters except having him in his life.
We don't know what EP 12 is about yet. Maybe after Gene talks to dad he and Nubsib will go to the press conference and tell them all to F...off. The 4 month later scene maybe is about Gene working hard to get his novel finished so they can be free to leave the publisher and the management companies. Anyway that's what I'm hoping for.
On YouTube there is a clip showing a fight in a parking garage. There are 3 men who look like our leads, one is curled up on the floor with another kicking him and the other runs in to stop it. It's at lovely writer Nubsib is coming from 4 months ago. Not sure if it's even in the series, could be a result of the tweets when someone said Gene should be beaten. Enough for today.
Ya, my sister rewatches it often and gets really angry at my comments, I mean really angry. I've tried to watch it with her but I can't get past the leads no chem terrible over acting moment. This is just my opinion, my sister seems to be watching a completely different BL and loves it.
I was going to say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about what they find entertaining about a BL but if have to force yourself to continue watching this isn't doing it for you. Stop watching it use your time for something you enjoy. I actually HATED Until We Meet Again. I know that's blasphemy. The trailers and previews had me so excited to see this BL, but I had to drop it. I didn't see the chemistry between the leads. I could not stand to watch Fluke, and all of the Thai food stuff just spoiled it for me. I don't think I made it past ep 3.
I'm giving Gene's dad a break I didn't get the feeling he is homophobic (at first I did but not from this ep) all those looks and grimaces are just to keep us guessing. I didn't see that he said anything to Gene about not accepting his sexuality. I think he's stunned and sad knowing what his son will have to endure as a gay man. And he is someone who would know first hand. He appears to be crying when he is reading the card from his old love, I think he wishes he had been as brave then as Gene is now. And poor Gene is finally coming to terms with his own sexuality he's overwhelmed with need to get it out that he isn't giving his dad time to think or even feel. Look at Gene's dad's face when he listens to Gene talk about his feelings. IDK but because of his own history I get the feeling that he's more concerned and not homophobic. The preview of EP 10 makes me think he will be Gene and Sib's biggest supporter.
But on the other hand Nubsib's father seems more concerned about what society thinks than what his son feels for Gene.
But yes best episode yet. Poor Aoey such a sad mess. I'm hoping his love for Gene and his thinking Gene is such a nice person will have a good effect on him. He already helped Sib when he couldn't say his lines, now that was nice considering how much he really wants to be with Gene. I still need to know his backstory beyond his family.
His actions weren't malicious and Gene is clearly okay with it. But that doesn't mean it's still not vaguely unsettling…
I agree with you on that, I guess you can't get rid of everything from the BL world looks like the writer chose the lesser of the evils having Nubsib act like a kid when he was planning how to get Gene's attention. Whenever stalking is mentioned I think about Kengkla and No from LBC, that was some messed up sh..t.
I think this is a wonderfully romantic series. I love the innocent play between Gene and Nubsib. Like when they are having dinner at the market and Gene is teasing Nubsib calling him brother and Nubsib threatening to punish him with kisses with Gene never backing off. Is he actually asking for Nubsib's punishment, so cut and it feels like young new love is blossoming.
I don't know if I would call Nubsib buying a unit next door to Gene's last year at about the same time it was announced that Gene's book will be made into a series as stalking. Yes he used every opportunity to get close to Gene, withheld his identity and wormed his way into Gene's apartment, but has he really done anything to hurt Gene? He didn't stop him from going home when he knew Gene would find out who he is. Sure he invaded Gene's privacy, cooked and cleaned for him, supported his work and the worst of all is the arduous task of slowly dragging Gene out of his shell and the closet, which he is doing with slow gentle tugs. I don't feel Nubsib is acting childish, he's silly crazy in love and enjoying being near the person he loves after a long separation. I love the little head nods of dialogue, it's so ordinaryly human.
I agree that Bruce is a good actor, if he weren't why would I hate his character so much and that smirky smile of his just makes me want to scream. Nubsib should grab and run like hell, or tell Gene what the hell is going on with Aoey. As of the end of ep 7 Gene thinks he's the cause of the problem with Aoey. Did that picture he sent to Gene look like the back of Nubsib's head?
Bl fans are Turing toxic go watch straight drama if you dont like it Its cute when straight people have crush…
My granddaughter six and her best friend who was ten super glued their hands together so my GD couldn't move across country. Does that sound kinky or adorable?
I was 11 and played everyday with my 5 year old neighbor for nearly 4 years then he moved away at about 9. Didn't see him again for 25 years. When we met again he recognizedzed me right away I had no clue who he was. On a side note we played house with my 4 sisters he was the only boy so of course he was always the husband at 5 and I was always the mom at 11. Don't think any of us had any inkling of our future sexuality at that time.
Please clean up your minds and let the rest of us enjoy this wonderful series. Aey is about to make us wish for the beautiful episodes 4 and 7.
I can understand Nubsib taking advantage of the fact that Gene didn't recognize him, what better way to get Gene's adult attention without bringing Nubsib the child along.
To be frank, I'm more surprised by people who don't believe that you can "forget" or not immediately recognize…
Gene and Nubsib were only together for those two years that flashed across the screen to show Gene is packing to go away to school. As I understand it they didn't meet again until the audition. Gene was already in his almost adult face when Nubsib last saw him where as Nubsib hadn't yet reached the hot hunk stage yet.
So, was I the only one that was concerned with the fact that Sib, the child, did not seem to grow within those…
How can you tell that he hasn't grown he's sitting in a scene that last about a minute during which he's sitting down. I feel the scene is trying to show their relationships more then Nubsib's height.
A boy from my school days was a small kid like Nubsib, when we left middle school for summer break he was much like Nubsib small boyish looking but on the first day of highschool he looked completely different George had grown into a gorgeous man in a short three months. It's called puberty it happens at different ages for us all. The scene is trying to show us their closeness not their height.
To everyone who found Gene Nubsib childhood story weird or problamtic or couldn't understand nubsib feelings i…
According to childhood psychologist children as young as five and six begin to develope romantic attachments. Remember when your kids came home to tell you they had a bf/gf. I remember my kids at that age they were a hoot. According to the phycologist if we make jokes at or belittle the kids feelings we can mess with their relationships in the future.
If I am correct young Nubsib seemed to always have bruises, it could've been dirt but because of the big club his mother was going to beat him with I'm gonna stick with bruises. There is such a big age difference between Nubsib and his brother I think he spent a lot of time alone, so when Gene moved in and gave him some attention he formed an attachment to him. You can see Gene showing affection for Nubsib by the way he rubs Sib's hair. Everyone who is saying that Gene was too old to be allowed any type of love for Nubsib is being shortsighted, some saying this makes Gene out to be a pedophile is just sad. Don't all of us who enjoy BLs believe that love is love? My take is Gene and Nubsib has a close affectionate connection NOT romantic or sexual. I believe you can love someone regardless of age, gender, race or religion without my reason behind it you just do.
About the two year thing, I think it was meant to show how long Gene and Sib knew each other before Gene was sent to boarding school, then Nubsib is sent away for a total of ten years. Nubsib hadn't grown his adult face yet when Gene left so I can see why Gene didn't recognize him.
I hope the writers deal with the shipping of the leads.
This is honestly the only series I've been this vocal about but it has all of us here putting in our 2 cents worth. Enjoying every minute of it.
I thought maybe Gene didn't remember Nubsib because Nubsib had been overseas since he was a kid so for many years…
Gene said to Nubsib that he knew that Gene couldn't remember him. Is he remembering something? I'm thinking that it could be like what happened to Type when he was molested by an older man when he was 8. I hope not, this could explain why Nubsib is so protective of Gene. I'm loving the mystery and the acting, both boys are so believable in their rolls. Love Tiffy and Tim also.
Aey and Mhok m leave me cold, I think most of the heart will be caused be be Aey. I noticed that he was eyeing Gene at the photo shoot like giving him a warning to stay away from Nubsib.
yeah this is mostly make sense and I agree with it but I also have theory that maybe Gene has did something bad…
That could be it but I don't think Nubsib lies to Gene on purpose, there has to be something deeper maybe darker. I only picked up on the warning Nubsib gave to Gene after rewatching ep 6 yesterday where Nubsib met Gene at the coffee shop after seeing him with Mhok, "don't talk to strangers they're dangerous." Is this a hint of some pending danger for Gene?
I'm really anxious to see this week's episode hoping we'll get more of Gene and Sib's childhood story. As I said before I think Gene had a childhood trauma which cause him to loose his memory of Nubsib. Here are my reasons. 1. His shock and anguish at finding out who Nubsib is. 2. Nubsib warning Gene not to talk to strangers because they're dangerous. 3. No one told Gene that Nubsib was home - which is weird considering how close they were as kids. 4. Nubsib's over protectiveness of Gene. 5. Nubsib's facial expression when Gene said he was going home.
I'm thinking the reason Nubsib didn't tell Gene the reason for keeping his identity secret is because he feels he still needs of to protect him from the truth, he can't tell Gene until he's sure Gene can handle it or maybe Gene's family forbid Nubsib to tell Gene. Maybe this is why Nubsib was sent away to keep Gene's past in the past. I don't think Gene's family knows he's seeing Nubsib. From the trailer we see them together. The relationship looks strong from what we are shown. That's until they are ordered to breakup to facilitate the forced SibAey ship.
Well this is me crossing my fingers. I can't see Nubsib as a bad guy. I feel he genuinely cares about Gene, he's done nothing but show how much he cares for Gene by cooking, cleaning making sure he's healthy. Ya he appears to be possessive but I'm giving him a chance to show us why, what's really going on. Sib's facial expressions when he looks at Gene says it all, that piggyback ride was such a dreamy moment for Nubsib he looked like he was on cloud ten, nine isn't high enough.
Excuse my grammar and spelling I'm a 72 year old granny with bad eyesight.
And it's still a very good episode. I disagree with a lot of the comments here. The last scene was beautifully…
I completely agree. The silances are needed to intensify the mood. It was perfectly timed. Sib is desperate to tell Gene why he hid his identity but it feels like there are extenuating circumstances keeping him silent for now. Some have suggested Gene didn't recognize Sib because they hadn't seen each other in years and he changed his last name. That's a little simple, have you ever not recognized a friend because they changed their name? Sorry that's my experience.
There is a condition called localized amnesia which is the lose of memory of a event or time period caused by trauma. I think something happened with Gene and Sib causing Sib to be sent away and Gene to forget Sib.
I've already given my 2 cents worth earlier this morning. I think we will be surprised by what's coming.
I said earlier it feels like Gene has suffered some sort of trama related to his and Sib's childhood. His aunt tells him how close he and Sib were but no one has told Gene that Sib is back in Thailand. Not even his mother.
Gene was blindsided. Nubsib remembers him and has from the start. Gene also said that Nubsib knew he couldn't remember him. What the hell happened to Gene? Could whatever it was be the reason Nubsib was sent away? Maybe this also explains why he is so protective of Gene.
Could the reason for Gene's over reaction be that he remembers something, he did have the flashbacks. Were the boys a little too affectionate as kids causing the families to go all freaky?
Did anyone notice that during dinner Gene's mother said he should take care of his health or he wouldn't be ablee to find a partner, not a wife but partner.
I feel sad for Nubsib, I think he's feeling guilty about what may have happened to Gene that caused him to loose his memory of Nubsib. That's why he trys to keep Gene close and is short and nasty to everyone else.
I just thought of something odd. In EP 4 when Gene was on the phone with his mother and aunt no one mentioned that Nubsib is home and has been for nearly a year. Now as close as everyone says they were as kids I find this odd. And in EP 6 the man in the car who stopped to talk to Gene is in the picture he saw at his aunt's must be related to Nubsib, he never told Gene that Nubsib is home. What is everyone hiding?
I can understand Gene, he has just started to open his heart to Nubsib who was still a bit of stranger. He's heartbroken feeling betrayed and overwhelmed all at the same time.
The silances were well placed even needed for the drama. Nubsib must be thinking how can he save this relationship without Gene being ready to listen? The person he loves is standing in front of him in tears. How does he start a conversation he doesn't know how to have. It's not just Gene who is heartbroken so is Nubsib.
There's a youtube video called lovely writer//Nubsib is coming it shows a quick snip of a fight in a parking garage, well someone is laying on the floor being kicked by one of the other actors, you can't tell who is kicking or who is being kicked nor who is running in to stop it. But it looks like our fluffy love story is going dark.
I needed more drama less stupidity. If they are having an episode 13, I hope they redo this one completely.
This didn't satisfy me need for a solid ending. I feel cheated, if that's the book the author wrote it appears she suffered like Gene did with not knowing how to end the story.
If they breakup because of the fans then this whole series was a huge waste of time. I hope they stand up to the fans and production company. Gene gets a new publisher. Hin follows Hin and his book becomes a big hit. Aey will hook up with Mhok. I'm not happy with Tiffy but Tum needs his happy ending. In the end Tum, Tiffy, Sib, Gene and Hin will start their own agency and put Tam out of business. Will that work for everyone?
We don't know what EP 12 is about yet. Maybe after Gene talks to dad he and Nubsib will go to the press conference and tell them all to F...off. The 4 month later scene maybe is about Gene working hard to get his novel finished so they can be free to leave the publisher and the management companies. Anyway that's what I'm hoping for.
On YouTube there is a clip showing a fight in a parking garage. There are 3 men who look like our leads, one is curled up on the floor with another kicking him and the other runs in to stop it. It's at lovely writer Nubsib is coming from 4 months ago. Not sure if it's even in the series, could be a result of the tweets when someone said Gene should be beaten.
Enough for today.
I was going to say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about what they find entertaining about a BL but if have to force yourself to continue watching this isn't doing it for you. Stop watching it use your time for something you enjoy. I actually HATED Until We Meet Again. I know that's blasphemy. The trailers and previews had me so excited to see this BL, but I had to drop it. I didn't see the chemistry between the leads. I could not stand to watch Fluke, and all of the Thai food stuff just spoiled it for me. I don't think I made it past ep 3.
PS: I love Thai food.
But on the other hand Nubsib's father seems more concerned about what society thinks than what his son feels for Gene.
But yes best episode yet. Poor Aoey such a sad mess. I'm hoping his love for Gene and his thinking Gene is such a nice person will have a good effect on him. He already helped Sib when he couldn't say his lines, now
that was nice considering how much he really wants to be with Gene. I still need to know his backstory beyond his family.
I don't know if I would call Nubsib buying a unit next door to Gene's last year at about the same time it was announced that Gene's book will be made into a series as stalking. Yes he used every opportunity to get close to Gene, withheld his identity and wormed his way into Gene's apartment, but has he really done anything to hurt Gene? He didn't stop him from going home when he knew Gene would find out who he is. Sure he invaded Gene's privacy, cooked and cleaned for him, supported his work and the worst of all is the arduous task of slowly dragging Gene out of his shell and the closet, which he is doing with slow gentle tugs. I don't feel Nubsib is acting childish, he's silly crazy in love and enjoying being near the person he loves after a long separation. I love the little head nods of dialogue, it's so ordinaryly human.
I agree that Bruce is a good actor, if he weren't why would I hate his character so much and that smirky smile of his just makes me want to scream. Nubsib should grab and run like hell, or tell Gene what the hell is going on with Aoey. As of the end of ep 7 Gene thinks he's the cause of the problem with Aoey. Did that picture he sent to Gene look like the back of Nubsib's head?
I was 11 and played everyday with my 5 year old neighbor for nearly 4 years then he moved away at about 9. Didn't see him again for 25 years. When we met again he recognizedzed me right away I had no clue who he was. On a side note we played house with my 4 sisters he was the only boy so of course he was always the husband at 5 and I was always the mom at 11. Don't think any of us had any inkling of our future sexuality at that time.
Please clean up your minds and let the rest of us enjoy this wonderful series. Aey is about to make us wish for the beautiful episodes 4 and 7.
I can understand Nubsib taking advantage of the fact that Gene didn't recognize him, what better way to get Gene's adult attention without bringing Nubsib the child along.
reached the hot hunk stage yet.
A boy from my school days was a small kid like Nubsib, when we left middle school for summer break he was much like Nubsib small boyish looking but on the first day of highschool he looked completely different George had grown into a gorgeous man in a short three months. It's called puberty it happens at different ages for us all. The scene is trying to show us their closeness not their height.
If I am correct young Nubsib seemed to always have bruises, it could've been dirt but because of the big club his mother was going to beat him with I'm gonna stick with bruises. There is such a big age difference between Nubsib and his brother I think he spent a lot of time alone, so when Gene moved in and gave him some attention he formed an attachment to him. You can see Gene showing affection for Nubsib by the way he
rubs Sib's hair. Everyone who is saying that Gene was too old to be allowed any type of love for Nubsib is being shortsighted, some saying this makes Gene out to be a pedophile is just sad. Don't all of us who enjoy BLs believe that love is love? My take is Gene and Nubsib has a close affectionate connection NOT romantic or sexual. I believe you can love someone regardless of age, gender, race or religion without my reason behind it you just do.
About the two year thing, I think it was meant to show how long Gene and Sib knew each other before Gene was sent to boarding school, then Nubsib is sent away for a total of ten years. Nubsib hadn't grown his adult face yet when Gene left so I can see why Gene didn't recognize him.
I hope the writers deal with the shipping of the leads.
This is honestly the only series I've been this vocal about but it has all of us here putting in our 2 cents worth. Enjoying every minute of it.
Have a good night all.
Gene. I'm loving the mystery and the acting, both boys are so believable in their rolls. Love Tiffy and Tim also.
Aey and Mhok m leave me cold, I think most of the heart will be caused be be Aey. I noticed that he was eyeing Gene at the photo shoot like giving him a warning to stay away from Nubsib.
dangerous." Is this a hint of some pending danger for Gene?
Here are my reasons.
1. His shock and anguish at finding out who Nubsib is.
2. Nubsib warning Gene not to talk to strangers because they're dangerous.
3. No one told Gene that Nubsib was home - which is weird considering how close they were as kids.
4. Nubsib's over protectiveness of Gene.
5. Nubsib's facial expression when Gene said he was going home.
I'm thinking the reason Nubsib didn't tell Gene the reason for keeping his identity secret is because he feels he still needs of to protect him from the truth, he can't tell Gene until he's sure Gene can handle it or maybe Gene's family forbid Nubsib to tell Gene. Maybe this is why Nubsib was sent away to keep Gene's past in the past. I don't think Gene's family knows he's seeing Nubsib. From the trailer we see them together. The relationship looks strong from what we are shown. That's until they are ordered to breakup to facilitate the forced SibAey ship.
Well this is me crossing my fingers. I can't see Nubsib as a bad guy. I feel he genuinely cares about Gene, he's done nothing but show how much he cares for Gene by cooking, cleaning making sure he's healthy. Ya he appears to be possessive but I'm giving him a chance to show us why, what's really going on. Sib's facial expressions when he looks at Gene says it all, that piggyback ride was such a dreamy moment for Nubsib he looked like he was on cloud ten, nine isn't high enough.
Excuse my grammar and spelling I'm a 72 year old granny with bad eyesight.
Remember to spread the LOVE not the HATE
There is a condition called localized amnesia which is the lose of memory of a event or time period caused by trauma. I think something happened with Gene and Sib causing Sib to be sent away and Gene to forget Sib.
I've already given my 2 cents worth earlier this morning. I think we will be surprised by what's coming.
I said earlier it feels like Gene has suffered some sort of trama related to his and Sib's childhood. His aunt tells him how close he and Sib were but no one has told Gene that Sib is back in Thailand. Not even his mother.
Could the reason for Gene's over reaction be that he remembers something, he did have the flashbacks. Were the boys a little too affectionate as kids causing the families to go all freaky?
Did anyone notice that during dinner Gene's mother said he should take care of his health or he wouldn't be
ablee to find a partner, not a wife but partner.
I feel sad for Nubsib, I think he's feeling guilty about what may have happened to Gene that caused him to loose his memory of Nubsib. That's why he trys to keep Gene close and is short and nasty to everyone else.
I just thought of something odd. In EP 4 when Gene was on the phone with his mother and aunt no one mentioned that Nubsib is home and has been for nearly a year.
Now as close as everyone says they were as kids I find this odd. And in EP 6 the man in the car who stopped to talk to Gene is in the picture he saw at his aunt's must be related to Nubsib, he never told Gene that Nubsib is home. What is everyone hiding?
I can understand Gene, he has just started to open his heart to Nubsib who was still a bit of stranger. He's heartbroken feeling betrayed and overwhelmed all at the same time.
The silances were well placed even needed for the drama. Nubsib must be thinking how can he save this relationship without Gene being
ready to listen? The person he loves is standing in front of him in tears. How does he start a conversation he doesn't know how to have. It's not just Gene who is heartbroken so is Nubsib.
There's a youtube video called lovely writer//Nubsib is coming it shows a quick snip of a fight in a parking garage, well someone is laying on the floor being kicked by one of the other actors, you can't tell who is kicking or who is being kicked nor who is running in to stop it. But it looks like our fluffy love story is going dark.