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Because SY was here all along. As people said on Tweeter, the writers wanted us to find Soyong. But, they failed on that part because a lot of people didn't find her (even with the inner voice, the skills and the memories and the situations where BH talked directly to her). People were more attached to BH at first, so they didn't want to find SY. But It was a great drama.

I liked the drama except for one arc (the ex-husband) and one couple (the younger sister of the deceased mother). Otherwise, it was really great drama. I like how they managed to avoid some tropes like "I'm not going to communicate with you" or excessive jealousy.

I get what you say, but, for instance, I have not the same understanding of the drama. I found a lot of hints of SY being here, and BH and SY talking together. BH's personality changed so much starting from episode 7. I'm not denying that BH did a lot of thing, but I disagree with you with SY being only a body and memories.

I mean if BH's soul came with inner voice, memories and skills. Why is it not the same for SY's soul ?

For me, the writers wanted us to find SY. But, again, it is just a question of understanding. Both of our understanding are legitimate :-).

Because some viewers saw hints that show Soyong was here all along and The queen's feeling were hers, others viewers didn't see them and felt that the queen's feelings were BH's. But that just interpretation, until the writers told us otherwise, nobody is right or wrong, and we are all legitimate in our understanding of the drama. And that's the beauty of this show, we have a team Soyong and a team BH but both have been played by the same actress.

I totally understand, most of my friends did not share ma point of view :-D.

But, I'm pretty sure I'm like this because I focused a lot of my attention to Soyong. When they change the queen's inner voice, I felt that I need to find a good explanation. Because I didn't like the one saying "they want to make BH more feminine because you know, 2 alpha men falling in love...".

And, both our ways to see the drama are good and legitimate. I'm just sad that some people have her heart broken :-(.

I agree, they did a lot of mistake hoping that the viewers will get it. But, I might be wrong. If it is the case, the ending is not only problematics from a BL point of view , but it is also a little bit sexist.

Regarding HJ, I would have loved to see that they allowed deposed concubine to get married again.

For me, having the inner voice of SY, her memories and her skills means she was here, as BH got his inner voice, memories and skills when he arrived in her body. It was just pure logic (but again, I might be wrong). So, I took "seriously" all the BH's questioning. And as soon as her cousin told SB that she was still here, I felt that BH accepted it and got his answers. Starting that point, their souls totally merged at the time. I saw both SY and BH in the queen's behaviors. Like, for me the queen crying was not a BH's behavior at all, so I thought it was SY. And even, for the last kiss, the queen wiped her mouth after the kiss. And I was like, or it's linked to the scene from episode 8 or 9 when he freaked out after the savage kisses scene. But here, it was more like "I'm ok, because I know it's you, and not me". That's my interpretation. Your interpretation is also legitimate and good :-).

In addition, in less than 7 weeks, BH went from a womanizer to a crying lady without SY helps doesn't make sense for me. But, that part might be due to Korean society, like an alpha male can't fall in love with another alpha male. He need to have a feminine part. I would have loved a BL if they have kept his inner voice. Having him as alpha man discovering his bi-sexuality would have been so great. But here, they is too much issues that bothered me. That's why I prefer the version where he's not in love with the king & the king is in love with Soyong. Because both of them got an happy ending at the end. For CJ, he loved the queen (first SY, and then SY+BJ). It means that he will miss BH's part. But as I said, he was not a good guy with women, so he might deserve it ?. I didn't really like his character, but KJH acting was magistral.

Because otherwise, Soyong - who was the only innocent in this story - has the worst ending.

People seems to forget that HB was not in his body, and he used her body to do everything he wanted with her inside (and him knowing she is inside), even having s*x with the man she loved? That's quite horrible. He stole his life, even got the excuses that she deserved from his father and CJ.

At the beginning, they proved us that SY tried to killed herself because she felt she lost herself in the palace. But at the end, in less than 7 weeks, she have no issue of stealing the love that BH deserved and live in a big lie ? Doesn't make sense for me.

Neither CJ, nor BH were good guys. The first one did not believe the queen because she was not from the right family, didn't even tried to understand her (at the opposite, she saved her without even thinking that he might come from a bad family and she was a kid). He trusted her when she started to have the behavior of a man. He manipulated his concubine to a point she almost lost herself. The second was a womanizer and didn't care about anything in the first episodes. Even if it could put people around him at risk.

If it is truly a BL (and maybe you are right), in addition to create a really bad ending for BH and doing some queer baiting, they did wrong to Soyong.

I don't know if it is unfair, and if BH and CJ are really in love, then it is not an happy ending for Soyong, and her life is pretty horrible.

She had been used by her family. The men that she loved judged her because of her family without even trying to understand her, when she saved him despite his family accused of treason . And the King needed another man to understand her.

Another woman took all the credit for saving the future king (and she did not say anything because the king was in love with that woman).

The man she loved fell in love with another woman and maybe another man in front of her.This man got all the excuses that she deserved (from the king and his father).

She was a witness of everything BH did (even him using her own body to have sex with the man she loved when she was here).

He used her body to do everything he wanted (even if it was a nightmare for him to imagine the opposite).

He left the body right before a painful miscarriage, and she will live in a life where everything is a lie, even her baby.

And the man that loved and understood her died to protect SB.

Everybody in the palace wanted to kil herl (even the king).

BH and CJ are not good guys. They both take advantages of women. At the end, BH had to help and protect a woman and CJ has been manipulated by a man/woman.

So yes, I don't think it is unfair :-).

That's why I like the idea of the king in love with her beforehand and that she was active and helped BH as much as she can better ?. Otherwise, it is quite horrible for her.

I love the spin off especially the part 2 of episode 1.

The 1st part of episode 1 was so sad. I almost cried when I saw the tears on CJ eyes at the end of the queen-to-be ceremony. Like, he knew he was in love with someone that he think he can't trust.

And I LOVED the jealous BH (episode 2 part 3) with his servant "You can't date in the company". Now, I understood why they didn't close this love story.

And I would love to see BH meeting a reincarnation of Hong Yeon (owning half of Gangnam) in present day.

For me, I thought that the main goals of the first 6 episodes were to show us 3 things:
- the inner voice, memories, and skills were linked to the soul and not the body to help us understand that the queen was here afterward.
- the real BH's personality (selfish and womanizer).
- the king didn't hate the queen (quite the opposite) but didn't take time to understand her.

BH's personality changed so much during the drama. The writers did a great job showing us the timeline. In around 3 weeks, he went from the selfish guy who cared only about him, who loved women, to the guy who wanted to go all-in for the King. For me, and it is my understanding, it proved that SY's personality had a huge influence on BH's one.

Regarding the relationship with the CJ, the queen's behaviors were so inconsistent depending if it was the emotions or the reason that was leading. So, again for me, that also proved that they were 2 personalities in the body. In addition to that, CJ was deeply moved (almost crying) when SB was explaining stuff that happened before BH arrived. For instance after the love declaration, or after BH saved the concubine and told him that he should have understood this woman before, or even when the king discovered that the future queen was a Kim (spin-off). So for me, he was in love with SY, but BH helped him understanding SY.

Regarding her cousin, BH's behaviors were quite normal with him before he knew what he did to her. He kissed her without consent when she was so vulnerable. So for me, she was hiding during the interactions with her cousin, so yes, BH was totally in control because he was protecting the queen (as he did with all the people that were mean to her) until the cousin told the queen that SY was hiding. Starting that point, she was not able to hide anymore, and the queen's behavior was almost SY's behavior (emotional and true to her feelings). So yes, it was legitimate to say that BI didn't see the difference and that he only loved the shell at that time (at the difference of the king that interacted with both personalities).

That my interpretation of the drama. I know it is because I was more interested in the relationship between BH and SY than the one between the queen and the king. I'm not saying that the writers did a good job, and I'm sure they did it on purpose. The more we talked about the show, the more we will remember it.

My interpretation is as legitimate as yours :-).

However, my question at the beginning was more about a fact, for people who don't believe that SY was here from the beginning.

I think the authors like the idea of all of these debates, because it means that the drama will be in the memories for a long time (like Scarlet for instance). I'm pretty sure they played that card.

Since a few weeks, I'm watching SHS dramas. I finished Still 17 a couple weeks ago, and I'm watching five enough. I'm so in love with her acting ?.

I hope you will find a good KJH's drama ☺️. And I would pay for another drama with both actors. They were amazing together. It have been a while I didn't see this kind of chemistry. I think I will rewatch Mr Queen in a couple of month or next year, and maybe my point of view will change ?.

Hello again,

I was not able to see your comment :-(. I just received a notification that you comment - I guess the writer blocked me.

Yes, that true, but it don't think it will explain the inner voice :-).

But at the end, I know that I have this vision of the drama because I was more focused on SY and the link between SY and BH. And I'm quite sad that they didn't explain more. Why did she choose him ? What the link between them ?

Overall, I'm just sad that everybody downplay Soyong, she was in advance for her time (and I guess it was the same for her mother). I would have loved to see a section of the spin off focused only on her (not the first encounter), just her.

Great review, and I will add that we have a scene where Bong Hwan is jealous :-). I loved when he said "not dating in the company".

I'm sorry, I need to ask because a lot of people seems disappointed by the ending.

If it is the case, can some explain me this:

During the first episodes, they show us that the soul brings memories, skills and inner voice , not the body. That's why BH lost the Queen's memories, her skills and everything in the first episodes. After the vegetative state, the queen get back her memories, her inner voice and her skills. For me, it means that the queen is back, and active.

Something that is true for one character, should be true for another one, no?

The only things that bother me with this explanation is:
During the first episodes, they show us that the soul brings memories, skills and inner voice. That's why BH lost the Queen's memories, her skills and everything in the first episodes. So it means that it is the soul that carry that, not the body. After the vegetative state, the queen get back her memories, her inner voice and her skills. For me, it means that the queen is back, and active. Otherwise, there is a huge inconsistency in the plot, because it means that something that is true for one character, is not true for another one.

But, that's the only thing that bother me with the "SY is gone and SB loves CJ" theory. Otherwise, it is just interpretation of a show, so it is subjective.

I'm going to be honest, I would love to see this drama as a BL. I feel that they fuck this up way before the final episode. At the beginning, we have a BH that fully embraced his trans sexuality. And it was so fun to see.

But after the episode 7, and it was more obvious in the last episodes. For example, during the battle between his cousin and the mask guy, he was not able to protect himself, and get hurt. BH was so proud to be a soldier, and he was helping the king to create a strong army. If you watch the scene, he would just have to move a little bit in order to not been touch by the sword.

They decide to make BH more feminine and fragile . I feel that they did that to match his biological sex (behavior and even his voice was different). So instead of keeping the BH from the beginning, we have a BH that have started to look like Soyong's personality. And for me, that's not good. You can't change the gender to match the biological sex. And if BH was becoming a woman, there is no more BL in the picture.

That's why I like the 2 souls in one body explanation more.

Same here. I'm sorry for them ?. But, the truth is SB has never been gay...

I watched the spin-off and I liked the explanation, even if it broke a little bit my heart...

100% agree with you. And we have some proofs about that. For instance, when the King declare his love, SB explained why SY means with "You must love me". SB wanted to be more than just a machine to make babies. Like her mother, she wanted to be a strong woman, but alone in the palace with everybody hating her, it was too difficult. SB helped her to be that strong woman. For me starting episode 7, SY took more and more the lead of her body, especially during the emotional and romance parts.

And I think the king was loving her before everything, otherwise, his brother would not have telling him to "not listen to his personal feeling" when he tried to kill the queen. If he hates her, why does he have any personal feelings? This sentence has bothered me since episode 2.

So everything is making sense for me as well.

I'm not entirely ok with your review. For me, we had some hints during the dramas :
- In episode 2, before going after the queen, his brother told him to skip his personal feeling, and that he needs to kill the queen. This sentence bothered me during the show. Why does he have any personal feelings for the queen if he hates her? How did he decide to kill her himself, and not let his brother doing that?
- His reaction, when she fainted, was too much if it was just the start of a romance.
- When he gave her the book, he told her that she was already weird but not that much, so the personality of SY and SB was not that far.
- The final episode gave us the answers about SY's soul. That's why when SB left she was able to fight. She was always here, and the queen's actions were from both SB and SY. For me, the more we moved on into the drama, the more SY took the lead on the queen's actions (especially on the emotional part). Otherwise, she would not have helped the King to create the new Joseon.
The drama finished to film in December, and they have started to film the spin-off 1 week after, so I'm pretty sure the spin-off was already planned. But I agree that they should have include some parts of the spin-off directly on the drama.