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Just answer the comment bro

Of course I googled it? Do you think I have the Quran next to me? IM DYING HE THOUGHT I KNOW QUOTES BY HEART

So it's only okay not to insult muslims..... What the fuck is your moral ground at this point. Is anyone else seeing this? Do you say the nword?

No it has no affect on me, but it does on you.

I have not claimed victory. What are you on about? Tell me where I claimed that? It's so odd, this game of yours, saying I claim victory or saying i think I have accomplished things.

Again with the insults! And you continue to use numbers in your words. quirky???

I can't take anyone seriously who instantly calls people bad names. It's such a bad tactic, it gives you no credit, it makes you look like you have no good arguments. A child resorts to insults.

If you care about your religion, you care about how the kdrama makes you FEEL.

Yapping nonsense? No? It's something created by humans... Show me any proof of God.
People in the Middle east during the early middle ages? How specific? Muhammed?

Bombing and killing is ALWAYS wrong. It's just funny to me how you say my country does so, when the Middle east for sure bombs and kills people. Heck, if I go there as a gay person I can get killed.

You HAVE to accept being offended, dude. You live in a secular world. Move to another country, stay off the internet. Is you religion not strong enough to handle some "mocking"?

"They accepted their religions to be mocked", yes we live in a society where critizicing religions are okay... They didn't "accept" it because they believe less or care less. They have no legal baring to not "accept it".

What do you want to do to stop this "mocking"? How far are you willing to go, just curious.


Edit: what the hell do you mean with nasally gifted?

Projecting what? Malfunctioning in what way?

No I feel accomplished about you not really answering my points, only resulting to ad hominem constantly.


Do you not follow this:
"Do not defame one another, nor call each other by offensive nicknames." Surah al hujurat 11

"A true believer is not involved in taunting, or frequently cursing (others) or in indecency or abusing." [At-Tirmidhi].

If you dont care about other's opinion, why do you care about the Kdrama?
Obvs you want people to CARE about you being hurt, you want us not to "mock" your religion. You care.

Written, spoken. It's all the same. Some people created a book. I don't believe in it.

"Bombing countries" that "dont obey them" ... Do I need to say anything to this? How many wars in the Middle East should i mention about bombing or killing people "who dont obey them"...

No, many christians are upset at that, people dressing up as nuns. "Allowed their religion to be mocked". No they live in a society where it is legal, thats the difference.

I just wanted to know which type you are. Some in these comments disapprove of "religious appropiation". You don't care about not offending people in general, just not you to be offended.
If you don't care about other religions, why should I care about yours? It's just one more than you that I don't care about?

You are so angry! How's the blood pressure.
"Too many notifications" - you are the one who replied to multiple of my posts first lmao, I managed to reply to all of yours, you can keep up.

Bro, I don't think it is your God's will to insult people. Seems like a bad God to follow if thats the case.

Is your goal not to make everyone believers, you have an odd way of doing so. Why would I ever listen to a person being rude and telling me God is okay with you being a bad person.

"God mocks the disbelievers", wow, sounds like a God who wants people to follow him. He sounds more like a sky-bully.

What's with the numbers in your words? Trying to be quirky?

Hey you never replied here :(( I feel so sad about it, maybe you realize God is sad too now. With you saying insults and all that

And I should care what you think is wrong because...?
Should I care you are offended or not. If you dont care about my opinion, should I ever care about yours? You want people to care about your hurt feelings, right? :(

Enforce freedom of speech? It happens all the time.... And it's limitations. The kdrama is allowed to use your religion, simple as that. You might complain about it, sure, but don't try to make people follow a book written 1400 years ago.

Yeah but I don't believe in the Quran, it's fictional. Should I copy-paste some laws about freedom of speach and freedom to create media? At least that has some baring in the world.

Am I allowed to dress up as a Catholic nun for Halloween, can you answer me that at least?
Am I allowed to have a Buddha head-statue?
I just wanna know if you feel the same about everyone's religion, or if you are special.

First of all, using the Quran against me is pointless. You could send me a quote from Dexter and it would be the same to me.

And no:
Telling people to NOT do something, and actually making people NOT doing it is wrong.
It would be different if you could be totally neutral, have no impact on Netflix or whatever when you say "dont use X"
But you are loud, you force companies to be afraid of using your religion, when they have the right to do so.

Why on earth can't you just say "Im offended by this, I don't like this, but i recognize it is fine for them to do so"

Im offended by other things, but I stay at "I dislike this", I dont try to make people follow my BELIEF.
It's like a vegan trying to force people not to eat meat, you have no right.
You can say "I dislike meat, I wont."
But dont say "I dislike meat, and since I dislike it, you shouldn't be able to do so either"

Religion is not objective truth either, so I'll believe in a secular world, and you can stay in your religious one. In that religious bubble you can protect yourself from criticism, but on the internet and in secular countries you have to face people not believing what you believe. Using what you condemn. Saying things you dislike

No, it's different.
The problem here is that you guys are not only saying "dont do this" - You WANT it not to happen. Which limits other people. We live in a world where we CAN do such things. If you tell me i can't you are restricting my freedom.

Can you with good concious say that you say "dont do X" without wanting it to happen?

yeah but I don't care about what the Quran says sadly

No, I am, I ask multiple questions, which people refuse to answer. Such as:
Is it okay to use religious elements from other religions? Are you gonna fight the same way for others?
Why should something offensive to you, dictate what I should do?
Does free speach only protect religion in your eyes?

Something can be offensive, and still legal and "okay" to do. It's not illegal for you to call me a moron, you have the right, but it isn't very nice
The same goes for a religion. You might think it's not nice for me to use it in a tv-show, but I can do so.

You attack ad hominem very quickly, I think thats interesting. I have never attacked you as an individual. People who insult, are usually quite insecure or dont have good arguments.

I wonder what your God thinks about you insulting people. Maybe you should repent, think that one over.

And this is supposed to be what?

No no, we are mad over: "Since I'm bothered you can't do X".
We live in a free world. You may say you are bothered, thats fine by me, but people are saying "dont use X".
The show can use whatever they want! That's the beauty of freedom

Maybe Im mad at people not respecting Freedom, which is bigger than any religion.

Haha, no, it's called having a debate or discussion. In what way can't I handle a comment lmao. It's odd to support one freedom of speech but not the other here.
Are you bothered by my comments so you feel the need to tell me to zip it? The irony.

It seems we have a similar argument then: I think you have the right to be offended, and I also have the right to argue about it since you have the right to say it, and you totally agree someone should be able to use Islam in ficition. Thats great!

Most people say this: "Im offended, they shouldn't have done this show/shouldn't have used X"
That is my issue. They have the right to make the show like this. I dont have a problem with "im offended". I can be offended by the color pink, the problem arises when i continue the sentence: "no one should have used pink".

Im glad we agree, I do see your point

Guess what! It is okay for people to use it that way :) Amazing thing, freedom of speech, it allows you to both reinvent and take inspiration

No, did I ask you to be outraged when I'm offended? No. I'm rarely offended, I'm not so sensitive.

Like I said so many times: you can be offended, and I can critizice you for being offended. People are allowed to use your religion in media- negative or positive. It is something you will have to learn to live with - or move somewhere where that is not allowed.

Do you put up the same fight regarding all religons, that's all I'm wondering. At least I have the principle for all religions: you can joke about it, you can use it for inspiration.
What is the worst part here? You being hurt?
I would agree if we spoke about actual discrimination, I don't approve of it.
But the same way you have the right to believe IN Satan/God, i have the right NOT to.
You have the right NOT to use Satan, I have the right TO use him.
You might be offended, you can tell me so, but I have no obligation to follow what you say - at all.
What is offensive or not is subjective.
I think porn is morally wrong, others dont. Do I have the right to say people shouldn't be able to watch or produce it?