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What is it and where can I find it? It’s not on here…

Honestly, it doesn’t say either Phum or Pheem are the main characters and it says all 8 characters in the group friends are mains, so I’m guessing it could be a Ydestiny/War of Y/My Universe type of series where each couple gets 4 episodes, so it wouldn’t feel to heavy or too long. I’m hoping it’s like that otherwise following Phum and Pheem 16 episodes is really going to get boring.

Okay, watched the first episode, I think I’ve got it!

Main character lives in America and is the only Thai developer for an international social media app that only allows “wholesome” content.
Second lead is a famous Thai actor that mainly plays villain roles.
When second lead signs up for the app it gets filled with very inappropriate (mostly sexual) comments about him in Thai (due to a leaked nude video of him), which makes main lead’s work very difficult because he’s the only one who can report those comments in Thai which means that he’ll have to keep working even on vacation while he’s back in Thailand. This drives mc to hate the actor.
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When mc arrives home to his parents he discovers the actor is apparently, not only his new neighbor, but also his parent’s new favorite son (who has the key to his house and visits always without warning).
Cut to all the classic bl tropes of the “famous actor openly flirting with main lead”.
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Also, don’t know if it’s relevant or intentional but mc is very autistic coded so heads up for that!
First episode is cute, naming the app Zendaya makes absolutely no sense and it’s confusing and it honestly doesn’t seem to play that big of a part in the series anyways. A bit awkward, a bit cringey but not too bad.

If you watch it let me know!

I literally just said out loud “every time I try to read the synopsis I just give up after the first sentence, what even is this about?”
And yours was the very first comment I saw😂😂

Technically they only officially get together after Unintentional love story so it should be both their origin story and then their getting together story in the present

Very weird take honestly, but alright…
First of all I am most definitely not a “bl Stan”, I watch all genres and, being a bisexual woman, I was most definitely looking forward to a good gl (which this isn’t btw). I’m also not sure what you mean by “keep hating slow burn” considering it was the first episode, I was not trying to get them together from the get go… I don’t know any series that does that. The problem isn’t the slow burn, they could get together in the very last ten minutes for all I care, the problem is the slow PACE.

This said, being a really big geek in terms of directors and writers I can say Aof isn’t the only director I like, not the only Thai director, not the only bl director and not the only director in general. He’s not even my favorite bl director, which would have to be Miki Koichiro.
But saying he’s “over hyped” and makes “average series” is just ignorant overall.
In Thailand he’s one of the very few who stepped away from the funny, stereotypical lakorns. He drifted away from the typical bl tropes and actually started making love stories that happened to be mostly about two men, and his directing is simply good. Never a dull moment, never inserting stupid miscommunications just because you don’t know how to cover 12 episodes, and always following through with his stories.
You cannot call “average series” Last Twilight, Moonlight chicken or Bad Buddy, just to name a few. Because if there is an average, it’s only because HE made it. No other series have tropes like this that go against stereotypes while not being boring as hell. And since you like this series so much, you should be thankful that he’s the one producing it, next to all the other actually great series that both are and aren’t bl.


Now… this said. Telling me to “only be sapphic here” is just as ignorant. First of all, who do you think is watching this series? Because if it weren’t for bl fans and people who’ve watched bad buddy, this series wouldn’t even exist. Most of its viewers come from there so to just act as if it weren’t true, it’s not smart. It goes against your own interests.
And also, I actually support female directors and not by categorizing them based on gender. No, I don’t find it exclusively necessary that a gl has a female director. A lot of bl have female directors or writers so why should gl’s be “exclusively sapphic”? I’d want the series to actually be good, rather than only have women?
And if the director was good then all hail to women, but this is prime example of poor directing. It’s dull.

The only reason I recommended Aof instead of any other female director who could’ve been just as good, if not better, is because we all mostly came here after Bad Buddy, where Milk and Love had the most incredible chemistry and a wonderful story that made us fall for their characters, so it would only make sense to try and go back to that.
I could’ve very well preferred Golf if we wanted to remain “sapphic”, as you say. Would’ve still been better than whatever this is now.

Out of all the incongruities this plot has you went and picked the ones they actually did explain😂
In the first episode they said Ever9 can actually feel a full range of emotions so yes, he would get mad at his owner to the point of starting a fight or going against the owner if he was unhappy. In the same first episode Ever9 also said he can eat because it makes him more “human”. So I don’t think the ice cream is what made him malfunction.

Anyways, my main doubts are more about why the hell did Ever9 put the hand on his heart IF HE DOESNT HAVE A HEART.
Or how can he say the ice cream is delicious? Can he even taste it? He can eat it but how could he ever taste it?
Also, where did all the clothes come from? They went shopping once and now Ever9 has a full wardrobe, plus he went to buy the ice cream himself so… does he have money? Does Yi Ping give him an allowance? Or does he even has access to Yi Ping’s credit card?

I have questions.

Okay… first off… reading comprehension. Secondly, coherence.
You’re the one who said it’s a good portrayal of the current gen. You are generalizing, don’t tell me not to because at the very least I do have relations with young people and not just from my country and no, tik tokers are only few.
This said, I wasn’t talking about how good or bad KP and TT are, I was specifically saying that there is no comparison whatsoever with those series, it’s different genres and different tropes.
More specifically, the whole MAIN trope of both those series is the fact that the main characters relationships started BECAUSE of sexual harrassment (which one of the two leads did TO the other).

In this series case instead it was a plot device just to introduce the bullies which was not subtle at all anyways so they could’ve as well went for the “hi my name is - I’m gonna be your bully” considering what they did wasn’t much better.
Anyways. I wasn’t looking for plot twists or full back stories. But they did introduce like 6 characters that had no name or anything so that would’ve been nice at least.
There are so many series that do this so much better. Bad Buddy, which is my prime example because it’s from GMM as well, had clear introduction of the characters, not all at once but one at the time not to raise confusion and showed immediately what their traits were without shoving random plot devices out of nowhere.

Yeah, totally fair! I’ve got some series like that too! Maybe I’ll keep watching it with that mindset as well!

I was gonna reply seriously but from the “very good portrayal of the current gen” comment I already know all that I needed to know.
Go actually talk to some young people cause I’m afraid neither you or the director have had any contact with anyone under 25 in a long while.
That’s it… everything else you said made no sense especially making comparisons with Kinnporsche and TharnType cause if you don’t see what’s wrong with that, I don’t feel like I could ever explain it.

Well… apparently I’m the only one who’s gonna say this but this… was the most boring thing I’ve seen in a while.
Considering I’ve been actively waiting for this series since Bad Buddy, I’ve waited years just to get back their chemistry, it was honestly so sad to me.

And don’t get me wrong, I can overlook the cringe, the strong second hand embarrassment and even the weird narrating format. I’m not a fan of any of this but it’s a choice and I can very well get past it. You know which show had all 3? “I will knock you”. I gave it a score of 9 because the directing overall was SO good that the second hand embarrassment wasn’t even bothering me at all. It was quick, witty and overall fun to watch, but this? The blank spaces between the scenes were SO LONG.
Full minutes with 0 dialogue but also nothing present inside the scene. Just void shots that say nothing at all and for what? To cover the time? To reach the 45 minute mark?

Rarely have I watched series sped up, if I do, I go for 1,25x speed or 1,50x max because I still want to catch the subtitles when they come.
But this one? 2x throughout all the second half and I still didn’t miss a dialogue cause it was SO SLOW.

I know I’ll probably get hate cause everyone loves it somehow but I really don’t understand why they didn’t have P’Aof direct it.
Milk and Love have the chemistry AND are both good actresses. But this series is so slow that it completely ruins any bases they had. P’Aof could’ve made it a good story.

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Also… What kind of trope is sexual harassment and physical violence for a first episode?? Have some decent introductions here at least. Girl got into school and automatically made two friends who follow and support her and we don’t even know their names. She’s got a girl believing she’s an alien who is not her sister and is living in her house, would’ve loved some backstory to that! Apparently we have the vice president who’s nice and likes playing hero and two bullies and
WE STILL DONT KNOW THEIR NAMES OR WHAT ROLE THEY HAVE IN THIS SERIES.
It’s just wrong, I’m sorry. The pacing is so messed up.

I’ll keep following it for now but I don’t know if I’ll actually watch it all.

Kenta was hands down the best character of the show and they glossed over it like he was air. He didn’t even get an ending scene. I get it that they were trying so hard to make PeteWay happen but with how they ended Way’s storyline they could’ve given more chances to Kenta in my opinion.
Anyways, last episode was a bit of a waste. Charlie and Babe reuniting was the most anticlimactic scene ever, Pavel saved that scene completely by being a great actor but Charlie was making me so mad smiling through the whole scene like he didn’t break Babe’s heart for weeks (at least).

Also, so sorry to say this but Way’s death was a big filler for a story that was already over. Alright, Way died and we’re all sad but wasting 15 minutes for the funeral and flashbacks for a character that we had just ignored for 5 episodes was just a way to fill time and it didn’t look good.

And although I definitely like AlanJeff way more than CharlieBabe, building the last episode around the second couple wasn’t a brilliant move. I get it, they started late with AlanJeff and had a lot more scenes they wanted to add in but they should’ve honestly just had their storyline shifted an episode earlier and put these scenes in episode 11/12 rather than completely overlooking the main couple who just reunited for the second couple.
What I mean is, we didn’t get any scene with Charlie and Babe together for 3 episodes, and they are main leads. Now, when they finally reunite you would think we’d get to see Charlie helping Babe get over Way’s death or the fact that his father is back, instead we get to see Jeff reassuring Alan. It’s cute, but why?
We basically only had the cute original scenes with Charlie and Babe on the race track. They didn’t fight together against Tony, didn’t reassure each other after and we just had no story at all from them after they reunited.

I’ll admit I’m also kinda disappointed that Jeff worried about seeing Alan’s future for so long but we never got a scene about their future, not once. I know that in the novel Jeff can’t see Alan’s future, but in the series Jeff said clearly that he will see it, so why didn’t we have any scene like that at all?

Anyways. Overall it was cute but it wasn’t well thought out at all. The ending was anticlimactic and we had too many questions left unanswered and abandoned storylines. I would honestly just love to know more about Kenta which was the best character from start to finish and the only one who had real good character development that wasn’t just fabricated to move on the story.
I guess I’m just a bit bitter with this ending. Anyways it was an ok watch.

I swear. If I read one more comment of people saying it’s “unrealistic” or “without plot” without actually understanding the type of series this is I’ll go crazy.
I get it, you are not used to varying genres and just expect every bl to be the exact same format and everything to be simply a drama and this was clearly not it. But just because you don’t get it, doesn’t mean you’re allowed to judge it without actually paying attention.
Anyone who didn’t get into this with the expectation of having a typical drama really enjoyed it and I’ll explain why:
This is not the format of a typical “drama”, this is clearly filmed in the format of a sitcom. From the first season to the second we can find all the qualities of a very typical sitcom.
- The characters are actually caricatures of specific behaviors, such as Minato being overly shy and exaggerated, Shin being very fierce, honest and direct, Asuka being super friendly and direct but acting like a puppy when he’s with Shu and lastly Shu being obsessed with architecture and incapable of showing or believing in love.
- The settings are typically constantly the same, rarely changing for the few “special” episodes. This was mostly seen in the first season, probably thanks to the budget, while in the second season the settings happen to be more, but the purpose is usually the same. In the first season they’re always at the laundromat, the beach or the school and rarely at Minato’s apartment. In the second season they have more settings but the three main ones remain unchanged and serve the exact same purpose. The laundromat for scenes where Minato is most comfortable in his space, Shin’s school (now university) where Minato is completely out of place, the beach where they’re on the same level and, now, their home where they are both more cautious around each other.
Even the name of the series yells “sitcom”. Calling it the name of the main setting is what sitcoms have done since the beginning of time.
- Lastly, but perhaps more importantly, almost every episode is what we would call “one shots”, which is the most typical sitcom format.
Almost every episode starts with a prompt, wether it’s a new problem, a surprise, a secret or whatever and each episode ends solving or completing the prompt. For example, Shin telling Minato to not show up at his school, making Minato feel like he’s not good enough, trying to dress and act “younger” only for Shin to explain that he actually thinks of Minato as too cute and is actually jealous. Or Shin asking what Minato would want, then disappearing for weeks making Minato worry a lot and coming back for hiss birthday with the special gift.
Most episodes hold this sitcom format where anything that gets concluded at the end of the episode is actually hardly changing the dynamics of the characters and the story, so that they can keep having this cute little one-shot stories. Some stories are actually divided between two episodes if they’re important enough but most start and end in the span of one episode.
This is, up until the typical “finale” which is divided in 3 episodes, resorting into the memory loss as prompt and has the actual character and plot development everyone talks about. Which is also very typical of sitcoms.

I cannot stand people saying it has “no development” when the whole point is to keep the characters as static as possible up until the seasons finales. And I can stand even less the ones claiming that they did everything too fast in the last episodes… because THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT!

If it’s not your kind of format, it’s fine, nobody is forcing you to watch it. But if you simply don’t get it, don’t come commenting on it or whining about it. It was a really great season, simple and true to its format and content, following the steps of the first.
If you actually want to understand the type of format, you can go watch Three’s Company, Friends, Big Bang Theory, Scrubs and many more.
I do get that you all came here for a drama and you weren’t expecting a sitcom at all, but it’s incredibly irritating how the bl genre is secluded in this typical drama format and the second someone does something classic that simply isn’t what bl typically is, everyone gets so mad.
Bl can have sitcoms, dramas, comedies, tragedies and many more genres. It’s allowed to not only be the typical romantic drama.

It is also the reason why we had a second series so fast, because typically, thanks to the few settings, the filming and editing doesn’t take very long, so we get to have more seasons and more little stories between them. Except now, with all the hate this is receiving, they might decide to never continue with a third season and just let it end here and it’s not fair to those who actually enjoyed it.

Sadly, there is a lot of hate for this season that I don’t understand. If you decide to keep watching, also keep in mind that this is done in a kind of “sitcom” format; the characters have specific characteristic that are meant to be funny and they keep them till the end. Almost all the episodes are one-shots where they start with a prompt and they finish it at the end of the episode, almost all except for the last 3 where the actual character development happens and there is the “finale”… basically like any classic sitcom would do.
If you expect development and plot from all 12 episodes then don’t bother because it’s not the point of the series at all! The point is basically hanging out with the characters in their personal spaces and at the end saying goodbye to those characters, that’s it!
I really enjoyed it, but I get it’s not for everybody. Either way, I smiled all throughout!

Oh come on! It wasn’t half bad as everyone says it was! I mean… comments got me thinking it would make no sense and get me frustrated but it was actually pretty okay.
Sure… I didn’t get the last shot under the stop light, there were obvious wholes plot wise and the worst decision they made was the one year time jump, but everything else wasn’t that bad.
Chemistry was good, the father figure was great, the friend had a pretty good redemption and overall everything was good.
I think the time jump ruined most of it because it made no sense for them to not see each other for a year, disappear without saying anything at all and then just go back like nothing ever happened.
I get why they wanted that time jump; so that the friend could come back from New York and in the meantime Ki Jin opened his shop, which was good plot wise; but for the main couple it made no sense. They should have at the very least done some kind of “fight scene” where they separated from each other, and I honestly think they filmed that; the exact scene after Yi Bin and Ki Jin go out to dinner after the confession and Ki Jin says he’s got to go first to meet Yeong Woo, but then we never get that scene at all and the next second Yeong Woo is already “heartbroken”.
I bet they filmed it but couldn’t include it for some reason which ruined the whole thing because now we don’t know why they separated at all and we just saw them being happy one moment and disappearing the next for no reason.
Every thing else was pretty good honestly, nothing too great, nothing too bad. Comments are hating way too much for the simple series that this was.

It’s not that. That was a special reaction but not an episode

Most people are with Yoh on this one but I have to say it… Yoh’s insecurities are not Mizuki’s responsibility (especially if he doesn’t even know about them because Yoh refuses to have any type of conversation whatsoever)… which btw, not complaining but… every single time Mizuki is like “hey let’s talk?” Yoh’s like “yeah, sex! Got it!”
WHY?!
Anyways…
Mizuki literally supported Yoh with his manga for years and never cared for money or his job, he just wanted Yoh to be happy. Then, right after a depressive episode, Yoh comes to him all sketchy and goes “yeah, got a new job, will be sleeping out now” like that isn’t weird af?
Of course Mizuki just went with the very obvious conversation of “hey, you don’t have to worry so much about money that you take on jobs you don’t want, I’ll support you until you find a job you’re happy with”
And Yoh just goes crazy because he thinks Mizuki sees him as lesser than him?
Like dude… WHY WOULD HE KEEP YOU IN HIS HOUSE FOR YEARS IF HE DIDN’T CARE?!

I really like this series but people who think that Mizuki doesn’t care about Yoh’s work are in deeper delusions that Yoh. If he hadn’t cared he would’ve just told him to change career a very long time ago but he never even proposed that, he just told him to not get into weird shit for money which is so sweet really.
Of course he wouldn’t have said it like that had he known that Yoh had weird insecurities about him being too perfect. But he didn’t… and he couldn’t have known because YOH DOESNT TALK TO HIM.
Like poor guy… he keeps trying and this dude is either running or trying to have sex with him and no in between at all.

It wasn’t as bad as people say it is… as a stand-alone it’s a pretty okay series, as a remake it’s not great.
It’s not even about it being good or bad or not sticking to the story, it’s more about the fact that you would expect a remake to add something to the original, to give something more… but this took away almost the whole plot and scenes from the original so there was really no use to it… just felt like they didn’t have actual ideas for an original series so they took this.
Anyways, as a stand-alone it’s not that bad.

I have to say though, the worst part of it all? The dubbing.
There were moments where I honestly thought I was watching crazy handsome rich because of the dubbing!
I swear I don’t think I’ve heard Lee Won’s voice in any scene at all! It was always dubbed over really poorly. People are complaining about the audio and the sound effects which is valid, but the dubbing ruined it for me completely.

Well this was… redundant.
First series was cute and had a decent plot but this was just useless…
I like the production and it was really simple and cute but why? Could’ve explored their relationship but it felt like the same plot over again.
Them acting cute then suddenly someone arrives and Mike doesn’t know what he wants anymore? Like the episode started with Mike saying he likes Bam to then spend all the time being unsure? And ends the episode saying he loves Bam? Isn’t it the same exact starting point? What did he even discover throughout?
Also, Pee and Bam had more screen time and by the end they had more chemistry really… at lest Pee was honest and direct.