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Why does the countdown say it came out today but I can’t find it? Is it wrong? When do the episodes come out?

Why does the countdown say it came out today but I can’t find it? Is it wrong? When do the episodes come out?

Yes, if I’m not mistaken, YouTube version is cut and IQIYI is uncut. Basically there is usually one scene per episode that you can only watch on IQIYI, and usually it’s a scene that has to do with the NC scenes. For example, both the YouTube version and the IQIYI one will have a kissing scene, but it’s more probable that the IQIYI kiss will be longer. Things like that! It doesn’t mess with the plot, but it’s little extra details!

Just watched it for reference but it’s not remotely comparable I’m sorry. That was a 2 second kiss shared between kids acting like kids with the innocence of kids, it was almost exaggerated the other way around!
As I said before, at 14 I was already having thoughts on sex and everything else and all the people who were around me were as well, it’s the time of puberty! While in that scene they’re definitely acting like they’re 10 year olds who are still super innocent. There is no way a scene like that could even be sexualized, and a small kiss like that one you can give to anyone, even friends.
In this series they practically had a NC scene! How can you compare it??
And even so, do you know how many people in Hollywood who worked as kids complained when they grew up that directors were inappropriate and they wouldn’t have wanted to share their first kiss on screen? A bunch of actors did. So even that isn’t justifiable.
My point was still none of this though. My point was that parents telling their child to do such a scene knowing VERY WELL that there are strangers on the internet who will sexualize their child and will have obscene thoughts on them… well that’s just scary. Why would any parent do that? I’ve seen comments online that made me horrified on kids videos that were perfectly innocent, I can’t even think of people watching this with anything rather than worry and preoccupation.

I haven’t but I’ll check it out thanks! Btw I am actually on Ren’s side here, I think what he did was actually quite nice because he definitely didn’t force Kazuma at all but when he told his mother he did, Ren was really defending Kazuma so that he would take all the blame instead and I think it really showed how much he cared. But I still think that as a mother who hears her child has been r*ped there is no saying what you would do or what I would do. It’s something so incredibly terrible and absurd that there is no normal reaction to it. I know my mother would do much more than just slap a person who did that if she heard it and my mother is a very calm, diplomatic person. When you hear your child could die because someone r*ped them, it’s unspeakable really, so I have to understand her.
She still had absolutely no reason to show up 10 years later when they’re freaking grown men to ever speak with him, that was creepy and inappropriate for sure, she should’ve stayed out of it!

I agree with the second point but not with the first. Imagine you have a child and he gets taken to the hospital in critical conditions and another kid comes and says they r*ped your child, forced him to have sex with them and potentially almost killed him. She contained herself by only slapping him.
Now, we obviously know that’s not what really happened between them but let’s be honest here, Ren literally told her he FORCED Kazuma to have sex with him, technically it’s a miracle Ren didn’t end up in Juvie because if I was a mother I would have never let him get away with something like that.

Ok, I can’t find a kiss on Full House with kids, they all look like teenagers that were at least 16, but I haven’t watched the show so please tell me which you’re referring to in case.
About Boy Meets World though, you can’t compare.
You cannot possibly compare a little peck that even kids give each other, that even parents use to kiss their child, a little innocent peck done for laughs compared to WHATEVER THIS WAS!
This was practically a NC scene… a No Children scene made by children!
I get it by the director’s point of view, because it fit the story very well and it was not meant to be sexualized but are you kidding me???
I cannot get over what the hell the parents of these children were thinking. It’s two 14 year old kids, half naked, kissing on screen and switching to sex positions while also talking about sex. That is so wrong on so many levels.
And don’t get me wrong, I myself, when I was 14, was having thoughts about these things, it’s normal, you’re just hitting puberty and you do get an idea of what it is, but for it to be publicly exposed and your body being used for the scene when you haven’t even properly understood it yet?
And my thought is still going to the parents… how in anyone’s right mind could they go ahead and have their kids half naked kissing on screen with the amount of pedophiles around? I mean heck! Their bodies haven’t even gone through puberty yet and they’re making scenes that will, inevitably, be sexualized??
I get that wasn’t the director’s intention and I won’t blame him because he did a good job, but as for the parents that’s an absolute NO.

Also, I might add, that they could’ve cast 16 year olds, a lot of 16 year olds still look very young but have developed enough to at least realize what scenes their making and have the age to actually watch the show. How will you have a person play a scene that they wouldn’t be allowed to watch? And it could’ve also been directed differently, there was no need for an actual shot kiss, could’ve given innuendos and good camera work. Of course we would’ve knows that it wasn’t real, but at least it would’ve been acceptable.
I was literally shaking watching that trying to not skip it because it might’ve been important to the story but it was really a bad experience to even watch kids doing that, honestly traumatizing for me, I cannot think how it must’ve been for them.

Right?! I seriously feel like I’m going crazy here with how people are reacting. Like a whole grown adult physically assaulted and almost killed a freaking 19/20 year old because he “kissed his boyfriend”. That’s middle school behavior, not 27 year old behavior. An adult in a relationship is definitely not scared of a confused teenager going out with his boyfriend, that’s just absurd. And anyways violence is never ever justifiable. It’s honestly scary how people are just deciding that Lomfon messed up rather than Patts. If your relationship can be easily ruined by a random person outside of it, then perhaps your relationship wasn’t a healthy one to begin with.
It’s all easy, fun and games to be nice and cute when everything is going great, but if at the first inconvenience you resort to violence you are just a violent person, no in between.

You know… it doesn’t even matter if you agree or not with me about the mental maturity of people. Or even about the fact that violence is something that should never happen. Your problem is that you view Lomfon as your own villain, but what you clearly don’t understand is that if one person can single-handedly ruin your whole relationship, then your relationship had no fundamentals to begin with.
If at the first inconvenience you feel the need to resort to violence because you doubt your whole entire relationship, then that was a poor relationship from the beginning.
Tai, in fact, didn’t let Lomfon ruin his relationship, he just waited for Patts to do it instead. Tai was willing to fix things and talk about it, he even told Patts he loved him so much, but Patts only managed to show his true colors yelling as loud as he could rather than caring at all.
No matter how you see it, Patts is always going to be the villain in his own story. Lomfon could have been literally whomever. Any possible person could’ve tried to get in between them. Their relationship just wasn’t good enough.

PS. Nice to know you would physically assault someone 7 full years younger than you rather than have a normal conversation with your partner as well… hope you get better before dating tbh

I don’t get everyone hating on Tai right now. I mean yes, he did lie and it was a low move on his part, we agree, but that was literally it. Compared to what everyone else has done lying is the least of all the problems.
Honestly at this point I wouldn’t care if Patts disappeared or died in an accident it would be deserved. First he insulted and mistreated a kid who was confused and came to him for advice (Lomfon), then he got mad that the kid reacted accordingly and proceeded to HIT the kid repeatedly. I don’t think you all understand the freaking level here; it’s a full grown adult, with a job, an adult life, with past relationships and all, HITTING repeatedly a kid in school because he’s confused. HOW IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?!
He then proceeded to shove his own boyfriend, listen to nobody, while hitting that kid and only stopped when he actually saw the consequences of his actions in front of him. Way to go dude!
Then Tai, clearly shocked and hurt by both Lomfons discovery and seeing his own boyfriend being extremely violent, still keeps a level of calm, rather than breaking up with him immediately, and tells him to talk about it another day when they can have a civil conversation but no! Patts won’t have it! He first keeps yelling at Tai and then shows up at his house unannounced while drunk to yell again! WHAT THE HELL?
Then he tries to act as if Tai is in the wrong here for not making a decision out of the blue in the midst of confusion and anger to reassure him, while he himself isn’t even able to think straight, but of course he would expect Tai to be the one to reassure him. After insisting for I don’t even know how long and repeatedly shouting at Tai to make a decision, eventually Tai tells him that if this is their relationship he doesn’t want it so they better break up and only then he realizes he messed up and begs for Tai to change his mind.
If you do lay wanted the answer that you like, maybe don’t insist on getting an actual answer right away. The fact is that, just like Tai had said, it wasn’t a simple answer and they actually had to have a full conversation about the situation, but Patts only wanted to hear what he wanted to hear, hence he wasn’t ready to have an adult conversation. Which is ironic, because if Patts actually had had a healthy conversation from the start none of this would’ve happened.
If, when Lomfon came to Patts, he had answered civilly telling him that it’s fine to be confused and he would’ve helped throughout that situation and they could all talk it through, Lomfon wouldn’t have gone behind his back and none of this would’ve happened. They could’ve even helped Lomfon realize that he doesn’t like Tai at all in the first place, instead Lomfon was left alone to try and find out in his confusion and so he did the only logical thing to do to find out himself.
Tai messed up by lying and letting Lomfon kiss him, but it’s not even comparable to what Patts did.
The only two people who had a reasonable behavior were Lomfon and Thian. Lomfon just wanted to find out if the soulmate stuff actually meant anything and if it was real at all because he clearly likes Thian but is confused and doesn’t know what to do. So he went ahead and tried to figure it out while remaining super respectful. He didn’t force himself on Tai, it’s Tai who stayed still while Lomfon was going in for the kiss. And he was just all in all doing his very best to figure it out while staying respectful.
Thian, as well, did nothing wrong, instead actually reacted way better than Patts ever could. He saw his crush kissing his brother, then went to him, explained how he was wrong, didn’t expect an answer or an explanation, tans when Lomfon told him it wasn’t about him he explained how it was about him and had even the courage to tell him about his feelings without expecting anything in return. He was more disappointed than angry and always kept his calm. Ironically even while insulting Lomfon calling him an asshole, he was still NOT violent. He was just direct.
They both reacted how they could in the midst of confusion and caos and they were both valid. They’re the only couple I’m rooting for at this point because Patts is dead to me. The only redemption arc that Patts could ever have would be if he went to therapy for at least a year and came back after solving his anger issues. Otherwise I will never root for him to have a relationship at all. Tai deserves better. Even though Tai did mess up he was still redeemable and could fix it by saying sorry and giving a good explanation, Patts behavior has no explanation and there is no coming back from that.

This man is an absolute genius and I will never get over him😭

This is so weirdly schematic… I mean the idea behind it is good but the execution is so poor. It’s like the writers just sat and went: “okay so, the protagonist has a crazy ex and has anxiety so he doesn’t want to fall in love. He sings at weddings, then the pianist falls in love with him, he insists and they go out, but the best friend is also in love with him. Then they kiss but his ex comes back and so he doesn’t reply to the guy anymore because he’s scared”. Like okay… but where is the plot? Where is the chemistry? It’s so schematic and strict, it lacks everything. I get they don’t have much time but it was better to cut useless drama rather than throwing everything in like that.

Short answer: no.
Long answer: I personally loved the short films, even though they both had open endings, they were still pretty good, moved on fluidly, the story was pretty nice and interesting and the characters had reasoning behind the things they did.
Well, not in the series. All of this gets completely eliminated in the series, it’s ridiculously slow, nothing ever happens, whenever you think it’s a good scene and something interesting might happen, they cut it right in the middle and NOTHING happens. And when something actually happens, they cut that too and give absolutely no importance to it and just move on a second later.
A person dies, they cry for half a minute and they’re back to laughing right after.
Slight spoler ahead!
*Even when they finally get together (after 9 episodes, if you’re wondering) they have the most boring kiss in the world and then they just cut it and something else comes up.*
It’s absurd how they have 50 minutes episodes where they spend 40 minutes doing absolutely nothing and showing useless scenes and then 10 minutes where everything happens and gets cut and things keep happening and still nobody has any type of reaction ever.
I wish I had watched the short films and left it there, they were really good… this is just sad

I don’t get why everyone is shitting on James and praising Net… did I miss something? Clearly between the two James had the hardest scenes, to be he did them quite well for a Thai bl. I mean… have you seen the other bl we have around?? Is anyone watching A Boss and a Babe? Love Syndrome??? How dare you come after James?!
To me he did his scenes very well, everything considered and, if I had to go against someone, it would be the acting director, I mean… it was clear they asked them to overact rather than act normally. It was a decision asked of the whole cast, even Yim was exaggerating so much.
At the end of the day, if I’m being honest, the acting wasn’t bad in this series and it definitely wasn’t what ruined everything. That’s gotta be all director and/or writer. It was just bad, there was no story, no reason, Uea just was assaulted way too many times to take it seriously, especially in a universe that technically isn’t the bl universe (since we see homophobic people commenting on gay people). You can’t help but wonder… why is everyone around Uea gay, interested in him AND a r*pist? What are the chances?? Why so many?? I’ll tell you why, it’s because it was the only plot they had and they had no idea what else to add, that’s just sad.
This said, I’m glad it’s over, it was 2 episodes too long, started getting really boring and made me lose interest, but James was definitely not the problem. The storyline and the pacing were.
In fact, even people saying that James didn’t look in love and that Net did all the work… don’t you get that was the whole point? Uea having the power in the relationship and relentlessly teasing King who likes the game and likes to be on edge so he doesn’t get bored. That was it from the start, I don’t get why people hate on it, it was established as their dynamic first off… it was actually one of the few things I really liked, it was a different dynamic than usual and really fun after all!
Lastly, please stop talking about James not being a good actor, not only it’s not an absolute truth, it’s just your opinion, but also! Actors check feedback online, I can only imagine what he’s feeling reading all these horrible comments you guys are putting out for no reason, after all his hard work.
I don’t know why everyone was expecting Hollywood type of acting from a Thai series… it’s literally what all the Thai series are giving, what were you even expecting?

I’m tormenting myself about it too but if I had to take a guess based on the conversation, he probably said he doesn’t want to film anymore, but do photography instead… would make sense since he said he likes to film people, not stories. And a change of career would explain Da Un’s reaction I guess.
Wouldn’t be too sure though, I’m open to any other guess!

Trust me… it’s the same for people who can watch it officially. Kisskh basically uploads it before Viki. I payed for one month of Viki and I’m still waiting because the page does not refresh and sometimes it tells me something is out 10 to 20 minutes late. Kisskh is not precise to the second but it still uploads before Viki

Yeah! All the liquors really killed me when they were “kissing” in the kitchen and their bodies were meters apart… like… why are your lips touching and everything else is so far away?? Do you want to run away? Are they forcing you?? Speak!

Often Viki adds bts or interviews and counts them as episodes… I don’t know about this specifically, but it might be 7 episodes and two extra. But I really do hope it’s 9 episodes!!

Ok, the problem here is not the episode being boring. People are just saying what they feel and totally ignoring what’s the underlying problem. The episode itself wasn’t boring, it was clearly a filling episode that will come around eventually; Pupha doesn’t want to present, he isn’t convinced by anyone at all, until he finds out how Nanfa helped him get the coffee shop and risks losing his job and so he agrees. Obviously that is not the main subject of the show and doesn’t move it forwards directly, the main part will be after, when Pupha has to present, doesn’t like it, Nanfa tries to help, perhaps they make it but they end up fighting because Pupha never wanted it in the first place and it’s going to get us to the point in which Pupha actually declares his love to Nanfa saying he helped him because he loves him and all… alright.
So this episode was somewhat necessary.
The problem with this episode wasn’t the “boring” storyline, it was the directing and horrible editing!
Every SINGLE time that the story is actually moving forward, it just gets cut. Every scene where they are together, doesn’t last over 2 minutes. EVERY TIME SOMETHING IS HAPPENING THEY CUT AND CHANGE SCENE.
This is getting on my nerves and I am a very patient person.
At the beginning they are talking, having a moment, working on the shop and all and grandma calls, they drop everything and suddenly Nanfa’s got to go… fine, whatever.
Then, suddenly everyone is trying to convince Pupha to be the presenter and everyone is in his shop and when finally Nanfa manages to get everyone else out, Pupha locks the door and Nan doesn’t even try insisting, he just goes home, no conversation whatsoever.
Then Gie Gie starts doing rituals on Puphs’s door, Nanfa defends him and he still shuts the door in his face. But this is still fine, they are somewhat “fighting” so ok.
But then! Gie Gie, Nanfa and Party just all randomly go at Pupha’s shop without him even being in the frame at all and when he’s finally part of the conversation they just leave? And Nan says he’ll come back but he doesn’t. And it just cuts to Nanfa crying on the roof for a plant and there I thought FINALLY!
Finally we can have a moment where Nan says that the plant is actually really important to him because it’s he plant that Pupha gifted him (when he tidied up the room)… but no. They just completely overlooked it and cut… AGAIN. So they move on, recreate the Romeo and Juliet scene, and there I thought… alright, let’s recall past times and have an actual conversation… but they spill the water, which was a great premise for when Pupha comforted Nan… and they just CUT. WHY??
All of these cuts are so abrupt, make no sense, change the whole storyline constantly, get us nowhere, but what is more irritating is that we end up getting more useless scenes, in the office, or in other situations that mean nothing, rather then the actual scenes where something actually goes forward.
This is not boring, it’s just stupid and poorly executed. And it’s sad! Because the short films were brilliant and the other episodes were almost fine. But the problem is they wanted to make this series 10 episodes without having a long enough story to go 10 episodes. They are just going to rush everything in the last 2 because they refuse to let the couple get together at a reasonable point of the story, they can only get together at the end. This is so irritating.
If directors started having couples get together in the middle of the story and actually learn how to show a love story from the point of view of a couple, without making it either boring or toxic, half the shows would be 100x better.

Really!!?! I have been postponing this series because I want to wait for the episodes to be subbed but I couldn’t resist watching some scenes and my literal first impression was “wow, I love the directing in this and the raw feelings it portrays, not romanticizing but also making it romantic and sweet in its raw and unpleasant reality” and it was the same exact feeling I had for the novelist, but I’m not an expert so I didn’t think too much of it, I kinda thought it was a genre in itself being so specific, but now it makes total sense!
I remember watching the novelist and people commenting on the sex scenes or on mood indigo people being mad about the “sad ending” but I kept thinking about how they portrayed real human feelings in such a specific way, where there is no right and no wrong, no soulmate and no right person, just the way people live their feelings and how they react based on them, and especially how the “bad person” is never actually redeemed for the things he’s done, but rather grows and changes thanks to being around happier feelings and how those feelings determined the whole show. I’m glad you said that because I would really love to see it under that point of view even though at first I was hesitant for all the people bashing Ritsu in the comments, but knowing the director and the vibes, it makes sense there would be a morally gray character who doesn’t look for redemption for its past but for a better continuation of its future (even though there is not much future in the series)