Saw someone crying on tiktok and I was like Whaaattt, it's a teen movie, how bad can it be. So I watched it...yeah...I watched it ... đ I should trust people more
When you define what a âmanâ is from a womanâs perspective like this, you end up with a simp with no dignity…
Thank you for this discussion :D
After reading this I will never recommend you to watch Dynamite Kiss, you would lose your mind because of the plot but hey at least she apologizes over and over đ
When you define what a âmanâ is from a womanâs perspective like this, you end up with a simp with no dignity…
No need to apologize, I like long paragraphs. Express yourself more if you feel you want to add something else :)
I do agree with your point about recent kdramas having a traditional ml with modern feminist fl. But I would also argue that a fl doing all that a ml would do, makes her look pathetic because it's the man's role to pursue her and for her to choose whether or not to be with him. Honestly it's a hard watch to see a modern feminist not to anything for her man and him still being obsessed with her. But there are other examples where that works even if she is a modern feminist, for example Queen of Tears, Lovely Runner, Welcome to Samdal-ri etc. They are strong opinionated women and yet they still show their man love through actions or just being there with emotional support.
Another thing I would like to add (you mentioned before) is a ml being traditional makes him a man and praised only if he is a simp to 1 woman. That is not a bad thing because most men are like that with their wifes/gf. But on the other hand if a fl is traditional she is looked as weak, dumb, NEEDS a man rather than WANTING one. I think that "toxic" behavior from women in kdramas are there to show that if it's meant to be then you can never push the person away. They will always be in each other's life. It's the man's choice to keep pursueing her even after she says no. He puts his self-respect on the line, a risk if you will and if it works then great for both of them because she will speak highly of him and the love will feel real for her
I think the loserism in kdramas are something us women don't see often in the real world and it's refreshing to witness that even only through screen. We are aware it's not reality and tbh a lot of things men in kdrama do that we see as romantic and you guys see as high standards, are things women are ready to do for their man as well.
Maybe she didn't apologize because she doesn't know how to, they need to have a talk about that. She left, it's not her responsibility to think about how he will handle the breakup.
Thank you for the recommendation, I'll put that kdrama in my list. Heard about it but never really started it.
When you define what a âmanâ is from a womanâs perspective like this, you end up with a simp with no dignity…
It's not about "control" it's about him doing it genuinely, wanting to make her life easier and happier without expecting anything back from her (that's usually what a SML does). I agree with the not being friends with ex thing, but in his situation we don't see that he had other relationships besides her so it's not toxic from him to still have her around if another girl isn't in the picture. We are only 4 episodes in, we don't know the whole story. She might love him more than he loves her.
At the end of the day, kdramas aren't supposed to be realistic but an ideal (or soo far from it/worst case scenario) situation that helps us viewers process our own things and heal from it by watching another perspective.
When you define what a âmanâ is from a womanâs perspective like this, you end up with a simp with no dignity…
I'm only referring to the one action he did that proves he has what it takes to be a man, which is attitude and standing up for himself and her when she is weak. a protector if you will. I thought he was a simp and would just leave the situation due to him being weak or not wanting to be involved but he shocked me with his assertiveness in that quote therefore A MAN
He doesnât do anything villainous though. His only fault at this point is interfering with the main ship (FL…
Of course, I understand and agree with you. I'm just saying that it's too much when it's THAT obvious that the main leads love each other and she never gave him signs that she could potentially like him back. When he stole the trash bags from ML... GAAHHH that pissed me off, what do you mean what are they doing there alone????
You forget the half sister and ha yeongâs brother and the parents
I didn't forget, they are obvious villains for the plot. But the SML just stands in their way when there was no chance to begin with. She never gave him signs that she likes him nor did she give him a green light to confess. He can literally see that both of them (ML & FL) love each other genuinely and yet he STILL chose to interfere (unlike most of SML in other kdramas). That's a villain right there, not necessarily evil tho
To me the sister and her ex are villains. But I have to say I do not like the SML. I do not understand his actions.…
We have some obvious villains, of course. I'm mainly comparing SML to others in kdramas where people usually get second lead syndrome. I agree with you, I also believe SFL deserves someone who won't settle for her but treat her as the only one. I'm pissed off that she was a victim of his selfish act to "protect" Darim. That promise almost ruined her life for good
After reading this I will never recommend you to watch Dynamite Kiss, you would lose your mind because of the plot but hey at least she apologizes over and over đ
Have a good night as well
I do agree with your point about recent kdramas having a traditional ml with modern feminist fl. But I would also argue that a fl doing all that a ml would do, makes her look pathetic because it's the man's role to pursue her and for her to choose whether or not to be with him.
Honestly it's a hard watch to see a modern feminist not to anything for her man and him still being obsessed with her. But there are other examples where that works even if she is a modern feminist, for example Queen of Tears, Lovely Runner, Welcome to Samdal-ri etc. They are strong opinionated women and yet they still show their man love through actions or just being there with emotional support.
Another thing I would like to add (you mentioned before) is a ml being traditional makes him a man and praised only if he is a simp to 1 woman. That is not a bad thing because most men are like that with their wifes/gf. But on the other hand if a fl is traditional she is looked as weak, dumb, NEEDS a man rather than WANTING one.
I think that "toxic" behavior from women in kdramas are there to show that if it's meant to be then you can never push the person away. They will always be in each other's life. It's the man's choice to keep pursueing her even after she says no. He puts his self-respect on the line, a risk if you will and if it works then great for both of them because she will speak highly of him and the love will feel real for her
I think the loserism in kdramas are something us women don't see often in the real world and it's refreshing to witness that even only through screen. We are aware it's not reality and tbh a lot of things men in kdrama do that we see as romantic and you guys see as high standards, are things women are ready to do for their man as well.
Maybe she didn't apologize because she doesn't know how to, they need to have a talk about that. She left, it's not her responsibility to think about how he will handle the breakup.
Thank you for the recommendation, I'll put that kdrama in my list. Heard about it but never really started it.
We are only 4 episodes in, we don't know the whole story. She might love him more than he loves her.
At the end of the day, kdramas aren't supposed to be realistic but an ideal (or soo far from it/worst case scenario) situation that helps us viewers process our own things and heal from it by watching another perspective.
I'm still enjoying the show tho, it's fun :D