If anybody threw up on me, I would have a fit and would have taken a bath in fire that comes straight from hell. So yes, I would have fallen for Marco from that moment. How he handled it so well is something to look up to because heaven knows I would need counseling if that happened to me.
The sharing of a tooth brush one😠my soul left my body. I would nevah! Never ever ever use a used tooth brush that isn't mine. Rather use a cloth as something to brush my teeth with, that scene will forever haunt me. It was cute but not my kinda cute.
I'm seeing a lot of people hating on Ait and James and I don't get it lmao. I love them as a couple though Ait and his jealousy works on my nerves sometimes. After seeing Marco and Bas's could be relationship they are so far my favourite couple.
I hope the boys call Vincenzo Cassano to deal with Tee because justice really needs to be served. I hope all parties get what they deserve.
The right time for Sin Woo to swoop TK off his feet is now! While Da On cares about what other people think, he would really need to work on not caring about how people perceive him if he wants to be with TK. On the other hand Sin Woo and Tk stand a better chance because they don't really care about what people say and can stand their ground. Like Namgung said, Da On needs some time to figure himself out and waiting might not be a good idea since change is gradual.
I'm sorry but I really am not a fan of So Hee, I would strangle her if we bumped into each other. Not to kill her(because I ain't going to jail for no mfs) but just make her blackout you know. Like I wish there was another female lead who would come slap the living daylights out of her. No one owns another person, especially when you like them. Infact she is obsessed with him, to her he is a possession. "I don't need to be nice to anyone else just Da On" bihhhh wtf?!? You need a slap, someone to knock some sense into your head because woooooow!!!!
And I hope she doesn't end up Nam Goong, may they stay oppa and dongseng. She does not deserve him, I was so annoyed when they put them in the same scene. Shin Woo made me proud by not taking her deal and putting her in her place, but sadly it looks like it went in one ear and exited through the other.
I'm still team Shin Woo but Da On can really be with him if he was more hands on. Bro, leaving TK hanging like that was not a good idea. Da On is a great guy and I would totally fall for him as well but his people pleasing will be his downfall. Honestly, he needs to start being more assertive, he could have told the hotel to wait a bit. He could have said his piece, shared a cute ass moment with TK before finally doing what was asked of him because clearly the world cannot function without him. I feel like the reason I'm alive rn is because Da On is mixing two oxygen atoms and he can't not do it because we need it to breathe. Y'all who thought oxygen was a natural element must feel like idiots because turns out Da On makes it from scratch, Chuck Norris who?!(okay, I took it too far but damn! I sick of dis!).
Like I said, I am still team Shin Woo. I'm rooting for him and I really hope he ends up with TK. Not saying anything bad about Da On, but at least Shin Woo isn't in charge of existence itself like the great lord Shin Da On. So TK can at least get his undivided attention.
How is this a dirty trick, isn't fault of ShinWoo... Taekyung and he left at the same to get on the bus, but why…
Hi, please see my response to the MDL user on top.
To answer your other question: I've never liked someone whom my friend also likes. So idk how I'll act, I might back off or I might still chase after them. It would depend on the level of like as well.
wait, how was daon tricking them by getting on the bus after? he came right before shinwoo by accident.
I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying he played dirty in a bad way, even though it wasn't intentional. You even mentioned that getting on a bus after everyone would have meant him not sitting next to TK. I don't mind that he was seated next to TK, he probably realized it too that getting on last would not do him any good. None of us know what happened in the time period of getting on the bus.
Which is why I'm saying Da On played dirty because according to what he said, he should have been last. It probably wasn't intentional though, fate was on his side. Not a bad thing really
Don't get me wrong, I like Da On but I love Shin Woo even morer(hehe). He is the one TK should be with and when I saw the key ring I had so much hope and then TK looked at the bracelet and I was like: Naw! Naahwww naaaww, you're supposed to buy the key ring in secret and give it to him one day as a surprise and then the rest is history! Alas, it hurt me but I'm really hoping its Shin Woo.
Da On is a great guy but he people pleases too much ngl, and him saying "Imma get on the bus after yall blah blah blah" was a dirty trick but hey! Gotta show him some respect since he isn't the only one chasing TKs heart.
So Hee...girl, get yourself together. We can't be this obsessed over a man girl! Girl! I mean calm the hell down, it's okay to like someone but not like this. I get so annoyed and frustrated when she shows up, like naah boo, no.
I am scared to continue lmao, I stopped watching after episode 2 because my gosh does it give me breathing problems. I scrolled down the comments and it still hasn't picked up, I basically just watched ep 3 and 4 through the comments you posted. I don't want to drop it, so I'll wait 'til all eps come out. I can binge watch it then and skip over the unnecessary parts.
Maybe if KK wasn't married I would ship them. He put Yat Hung in a very sticky situation which I do not approve off. Imagine having to carry the burden of being responsible for a divorce...no ma'am.
Has he really shown a lot of growth? Take Lee Dam out of the drama and he is still the same person he was shown…
Of course there's nothing wrong with Dam rejecting SW. I'm not trying to say that Dam should have accepted his love or lessened her blows. You do not have to like everyone who likes you. A part of wishes that SW and Dam become a thing but a larger part wishes she stays with WY.
As you said, SWs character was left to the viewers. A lot of people are still basing his character off how he was in the first half and that's okay. You mentioned that his character development was because of Dam and I agree, even in an alternate universe another Dam would have entered his life. Sometimes we need people to help us see just how big jerks we were.
If SW did known about everything I also think that he would be more considerate but I also see how hurt he would be seeing that he is just a pawn to get WY to be more motivated into turning into a human.
I said this in a previous comment that I don't think SW and Dam are really fated for one another. That the Spirit Mountain might be playing games with all 3 of them. You can imagine how devasted one would be if they learned the news. At some point you'd ask yourself if you ever truly liked that person or if it was the red strings doings.
I do feel for SW, I believe that he really has shown character development and this is based of what I have seen so far. This drama hasn't really given us a lot of info on him. There were episodes where he wasn't in and now he just pops in when the red string does its magic. None of us can really say he has changed or he hasn't because of that, it's based of our hunch. Our hunches don't have to be the same and I respect that.
You mentioned that he dug himself a hole with some viewers in the first half that viewers can't see him get out of such hole and I think that's where our disagreement is. Not everyone is gonna have a clean side to them, some people unfortunately stay that way and some need a nudge to start moving in a better direction. SW is the latter for me, his history isn't great but he seems to have learned a lot from Dam(the nudge). I might be wrong with his development, he might go back to his old ways. I'm not so stuck in his former role which is why I was able to like him a bit more and empathize with him as the show progressed. I don't see why I should continue to judge him from his past when his present looks a lot better than his past.
Like you said there's only 4 eps left. The Spirit Mountain might be using him and I guess it could be punishment for how he treated many women before Dam. In an alternate universe where WY never existed and SW and Dam were the same as this universe. They might have gotten together or they might have not. Either way, the way I see it, Dam still would have been the reason of character development in SW.
Has he really shown a lot of growth? Take Lee Dam out of the drama and he is still the same person he was shown…
I mean, she did ignore him at some point, she hurt his feelings countless of times inorder to get him to stop liking her. I haven't seen him mistreat any other woman after all that Dam put him through. Nowhere did I mention that I wish she chooses Sun Woo over Woo Yeo. I like Woo Yeo as well, I'm just saying that if somehow they don't workout or as you said WY wasn't in the picture they would make a really great couple.
I don't think SW's behaviour towards Dam has been that bad. This is his first time ever liking someone, that person rejected him(something he isn't used to), that person hurt him, yet he keeps hoping that she will one day turn to him.
What's wrong with any of that? Was him being persistent with Dam forgiving him the problem? For me that was when he showed the biggest growth and Dam didn't make it easy for him which I liked.
For once he has shown that he cares for someone other than himself. Always noticing when Dam isn't looking well, wanting to take care of her.
What's wrong with any of that? What's wrong with going after someone you like? What's wrong with going through the 5 stages of grief when they reject you? I'm not saying we all would act like him if we found ourselves in the same situation. People react differently, SW is going all in so that he knows that he at least gave it his all when he finally decides to let Dam go.
As you said, he has mistaken a lot of Dam's actions as maybe she likes him back. Is that not a natural reaction though, since when were mistakes something so creepy? If the person you liked showed you kindness it's a no brainer that it would get your hopes up. This is what SW has to go through, he might move on from Dam and become the best boyfriend for someone else. Or this might ruin him and he falls back to his old ways, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
You don't have to agree with me, where I see growth you might not and that's fine. I am sticking to what I said about hoping that he ends up with Dam. By that I mean in a alternate universe, unless he proves me wrong. I think the biggest lesson for SW is that you can't always get what you want, no matter how bad you want and go after it.
I get that WY is getting more desperate which is why he is doing what he is doing. But he should have been honest with Dam, I think she would have understood. This level of desperate is really dangerous in my opinion because of how far one would be willing to go to achieve their goal. There's hope though, as long as proving himself as someone worthy to be with Dam is greater than his need to harm people in order to turn into a human.
I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but you know what...come at me bro. I love Sun Woo, someone mentioned why I would like him considering how he treated women before Dam. Personally, he has shown a lot of growth, Dam gave him a taste of his own poison. A part of me wishes that Dam chooses him, I think they would make a nice couple tbh(you have no idea how I wish they end up together)
HS and JJ have got to be my favourite people from this drama. If couple goals was a dictionary word, those two would be the definition. Them not offering a ride to SK took me out, like tell me you want time with your s/o without telling me you want time with your s/o.
I wanna know what happened between SK and that Sunbae.
i've already watched 17 again (and multiple times at that over the past 12 years LOL) so i'm kind of hesitant…
Hi, I don't remember 17 Again very well but the bits and pieces I do remember were somewhat the same as the drama. Even so, you won't regret watching it, it was literally a master piece(well for me anyways) from actors to OST.
NGL I have caught the SML syndrome once again, but even though I like Sun Woo my heart is still with Woo Yeo.
I also can't help but feel that the red string is a plan the Mountain Spirit has to try push WY into turning into a human quicker. I might be completely wrong here, but I really believe he is playing a nasty trick on them so that WY is more motivated to turn into a human.
I always liked Jae Jin but damn boiii I think I'm in love with you now. I thought he couldn't stand his own ground but he surprised me multiple times, he looks like a softie that one can easily take advantage off but boy can looks be deceiving. I believe him and Hye Sun are gonna be a kick ass bomb ass couple and I can't wait to see them get together.
Watch 2/4 for Meen Duean... It's hilarious... I feel both Pi & Mork have their own issues they need to work through.…
I finally made to 2/4 I agree with you on Mork and Pi, they both need some time apart. They both got things to work on, Mork thinks the best way with helping Pi work through his insecurities (due to his past relationships with people) is by being aggressive and I don't think that method is helpful to Pi at all.
Hmm mmm, nope, nah because Mork is problematic. It only took a few episodes to realize that he has been forcing his self on Pi. I don't even wanna finish episode 11(I'm currently 11:27 minutes in) and dude just won't let Pi breathe. I don't think he cares about Pi's feelings and concerns and most importantly his history with other people.
I don't think he understands why Pi put their relationship on probation, why Pi wants to keep their relationship private. I keep thinking of that scene when Mork was explaining the difference between love and obsession to Pi. I think he is obsessed and just wants to possess Pi, this is not a healthy relationship.
Pi can say NO a billion times and it still won't get through to Mork. Like when Pi asked that he leave his room before Duean returned and he literally(he even said it himself) forced himself on him. I do not approve of this relationship, that's my own opinion though. The power dynamics between them is not even close to being equal. Mork is emotionally manipulating Pi, coercing him.
In fact I would go as far as saying that Pi doesn't even like Mork, he has been conditioned to like him. Pi thinks he loves Mork because Mork told him so many times that he does.
what would you guys do if you were in her shoes? (im talking about ep 8)
I would act like Lee Dam did that's for sure. Pretend as though I forgot him, how dare he lie to me, try to take my memories away and then watch over me. How dare he! How dare he try to be that cute and not allow me to move on and forget him...pshhhhh
The sharing of a tooth brush one😠my soul left my body. I would nevah! Never ever ever use a used tooth brush that isn't mine. Rather use a cloth as something to brush my teeth with, that scene will forever haunt me. It was cute but not my kinda cute.
I'm seeing a lot of people hating on Ait and James and I don't get it lmao. I love them as a couple though Ait and his jealousy works on my nerves sometimes.
After seeing Marco and Bas's could be relationship they are so far my favourite couple.
I hope the boys call Vincenzo Cassano to deal with Tee because justice really needs to be served. I hope all parties get what they deserve.
On the other hand Sin Woo and Tk stand a better chance because they don't really care about what people say and can stand their ground. Like Namgung said, Da On needs some time to figure himself out and waiting might not be a good idea since change is gradual.
Namgung has got to be the sweetest character I've seen in a while. I just love him😩what a cutie! I wish he gets a happy ending as well, the biggest plot twist would be him ending up with TK. I would die but in a good way because he is like an underdog, the John Cena of the show.
I'm not even gonna talk about So Hee, I might get a heart attack and die if I think too much about her.
And I hope she doesn't end up Nam Goong, may they stay oppa and dongseng. She does not deserve him, I was so annoyed when they put them in the same scene. Shin Woo made me proud by not taking her deal and putting her in her place, but sadly it looks like it went in one ear and exited through the other.
I'm still team Shin Woo but Da On can really be with him if he was more hands on. Bro, leaving TK hanging like that was not a good idea. Da On is a great guy and I would totally fall for him as well but his people pleasing will be his downfall. Honestly, he needs to start being more assertive, he could have told the hotel to wait a bit. He could have said his piece, shared a cute ass moment with TK before finally doing what was asked of him because clearly the world cannot function without him. I feel like the reason I'm alive rn is because Da On is mixing two oxygen atoms and he can't not do it because we need it to breathe. Y'all who thought oxygen was a natural element must feel like idiots because turns out Da On makes it from scratch, Chuck Norris who?!(okay, I took it too far but damn! I sick of dis!).
Like I said, I am still team Shin Woo. I'm rooting for him and I really hope he ends up with TK. Not saying anything bad about Da On, but at least Shin Woo isn't in charge of existence itself like the great lord Shin Da On. So TK can at least get his undivided attention.
To answer your other question: I've never liked someone whom my friend also likes. So idk how I'll act, I might back off or I might still chase after them. It would depend on the level of like as well.
I don't mind that he was seated next to TK, he probably realized it too that getting on last would not do him any good. None of us know what happened in the time period of getting on the bus.
Which is why I'm saying Da On played dirty because according to what he said, he should have been last. It probably wasn't intentional though, fate was on his side. Not a bad thing really
It might have been on accident but he knew what he was doing.
Alas, it hurt me but I'm really hoping its Shin Woo.
Da On is a great guy but he people pleases too much ngl, and him saying "Imma get on the bus after yall blah blah blah" was a dirty trick but hey! Gotta show him some respect since he isn't the only one chasing TKs heart.
So Hee...girl, get yourself together. We can't be this obsessed over a man girl! Girl! I mean calm the hell down, it's okay to like someone but not like this. I get so annoyed and frustrated when she shows up, like naah boo, no.
I don't want to drop it, so I'll wait 'til all eps come out. I can binge watch it then and skip over the unnecessary parts.
As you said, SWs character was left to the viewers. A lot of people are still basing his character off how he was in the first half and that's okay. You mentioned that his character development was because of Dam and I agree, even in an alternate universe another Dam would have entered his life. Sometimes we need people to help us see just how big jerks we were.
If SW did known about everything I also think that he would be more considerate but I also see how hurt he would be seeing that he is just a pawn to get WY to be more motivated into turning into a human.
I said this in a previous comment that I don't think SW and Dam are really fated for one another. That the Spirit Mountain might be playing games with all 3 of them. You can imagine how devasted one would be if they learned the news. At some point you'd ask yourself if you ever truly liked that person or if it was the red strings doings.
I do feel for SW, I believe that he really has shown character development and this is based of what I have seen so far. This drama hasn't really given us a lot of info on him. There were episodes where he wasn't in and now he just pops in when the red string does its magic. None of us can really say he has changed or he hasn't because of that, it's based of our hunch. Our hunches don't have to be the same and I respect that.
You mentioned that he dug himself a hole with some viewers in the first half that viewers can't see him get out of such hole and I think that's where our disagreement is. Not everyone is gonna have a clean side to them, some people unfortunately stay that way and some need a nudge to start moving in a better direction. SW is the latter for me, his history isn't great but he seems to have learned a lot from Dam(the nudge). I might be wrong with his development, he might go back to his old ways. I'm not so stuck in his former role which is why I was able to like him a bit more and empathize with him as the show progressed. I don't see why I should continue to judge him from his past when his present looks a lot better than his past.
Like you said there's only 4 eps left. The Spirit Mountain might be using him and I guess it could be punishment for how he treated many women before Dam. In an alternate universe where WY never existed and SW and Dam were the same as this universe. They might have gotten together or they might have not. Either way, the way I see it, Dam still would have been the reason of character development in SW.
I don't think SW's behaviour towards Dam has been that bad. This is his first time ever liking someone, that person rejected him(something he isn't used to), that person hurt him, yet he keeps hoping that she will one day turn to him.
What's wrong with any of that? Was him being persistent with Dam forgiving him the problem? For me that was when he showed the biggest growth and Dam didn't make it easy for him which I liked.
For once he has shown that he cares for someone other than himself. Always noticing when Dam isn't looking well, wanting to take care of her.
What's wrong with any of that? What's wrong with going after someone you like? What's wrong with going through the 5 stages of grief when they reject you? I'm not saying we all would act like him if we found ourselves in the same situation. People react differently, SW is going all in so that he knows that he at least gave it his all when he finally decides to let Dam go.
As you said, he has mistaken a lot of Dam's actions as maybe she likes him back. Is that not a natural reaction though, since when were mistakes something so creepy? If the person you liked showed you kindness it's a no brainer that it would get your hopes up. This is what SW has to go through, he might move on from Dam and become the best boyfriend for someone else. Or this might ruin him and he falls back to his old ways, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
You don't have to agree with me, where I see growth you might not and that's fine. I am sticking to what I said about hoping that he ends up with Dam. By that I mean in a alternate universe, unless he proves me wrong. I think the biggest lesson for SW is that you can't always get what you want, no matter how bad you want and go after it.
I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but you know what...come at me bro.
I love Sun Woo, someone mentioned why I would like him considering how he treated women before Dam. Personally, he has shown a lot of growth, Dam gave him a taste of his own poison. A part of me wishes that Dam chooses him, I think they would make a nice couple tbh(you have no idea how I wish they end up together)
HS and JJ have got to be my favourite people from this drama. If couple goals was a dictionary word, those two would be the definition. Them not offering a ride to SK took me out, like tell me you want time with your s/o without telling me you want time with your s/o.
I wanna know what happened between SK and that Sunbae.
I also can't help but feel that the red string is a plan the Mountain Spirit has to try push WY into turning into a human quicker. I might be completely wrong here, but I really believe he is playing a nasty trick on them so that WY is more motivated to turn into a human.
I always liked Jae Jin but damn boiii I think I'm in love with you now. I thought he couldn't stand his own ground but he surprised me multiple times, he looks like a softie that one can easily take advantage off but boy can looks be deceiving.
I believe him and Hye Sun are gonna be a kick ass bomb ass couple and I can't wait to see them get together.
I agree with you on Mork and Pi, they both need some time apart. They both got things to work on, Mork thinks the best way with helping Pi work through his insecurities (due to his past relationships with people) is by being aggressive and I don't think that method is helpful to Pi at all.
I don't even wanna finish episode 11(I'm currently 11:27 minutes in) and dude just won't let Pi breathe. I don't think he cares about Pi's feelings and concerns and most importantly his history with other people.
I don't think he understands why Pi put their relationship on probation, why Pi wants to keep their relationship private. I keep thinking of that scene when Mork was explaining the difference between love and obsession to Pi. I think he is obsessed and just wants to possess Pi, this is not a healthy relationship.
Pi can say NO a billion times and it still won't get through to Mork. Like when Pi asked that he leave his room before Duean returned and he literally(he even said it himself) forced himself on him. I do not approve of this relationship, that's my own opinion though. The power dynamics between them is not even close to being equal. Mork is emotionally manipulating Pi, coercing him.
In fact I would go as far as saying that Pi doesn't even like Mork, he has been conditioned to like him. Pi thinks he loves Mork because Mork told him so many times that he does.
I repeat, this is not a healthy relationship