This is honestly such a wellmade and captivating drama so far (at ep 10). I'm surprised at how this series with…
Quite frustrated with Zhu Zhu. I really disliked how righteous she seemed to feel about her actions, going to the birthday party for the kid whose dad you've had an affair with is pretty terrible.
Anyway, the divorce was clearly a good idea and hopefully Yinuo och Xiao Lu get to move on with people that can make them happier. They were so NOT good for eachother.
This is honestly such a wellmade and captivating drama so far (at ep 10). I'm surprised at how this series with hour-long episodes, taking place in a couple of locations, never feels draggy to me. The pace itself is quite slow with long shots and focus on dialogue/characters, but it's never boring. It's pure messy family dynamic. All characters are certainly flawed and exceedingly frustrating at times, however they're wellwritten and I can to some extent empathize with all of them.
I’m confused cause when they arrived, she scoffed at being home cooking/childrearing and she was gonna start…
Oh, I was talking about the plot where there's miscommunication and the FL thinks the ML is going to take in the teahouse owner as a concubine (like around ep 12/13).
I generally enjoy this light cute drama except for the domestic violence part done by the FL to the ML. She chases…
To be fair the first blackeye happened when she was going to save him from wolves, thought he was an enemy, and accidentally punched him. And the other punch happened when they were sparring right? Maybe I’ve forgotten some other instance (or haven't gotten there yet) but at least these two punches weren’t really domestic violence. But yeah, dramas aren't great at portraying healthy couples. I'm glad the characters are growing and that particular dynamic between them changed.
Solid drama so far. The comedy works, the main leads are slowly growing and improving, with some time I’d wager…
I’m confused cause when they arrived, she scoffed at being home cooking/childrearing and she was gonna start a business. Yet all she’s doing is tending her garden and cooking. Sure, they’re still dirtpoor but I wish some of that fiery nature and businessmarts would translate into her hustling a bit and get going with something. If I remember correctly when she encouraged him to get rich so she could get her business he basically said: you should do it with your own hands. Maybe it'll come after this romance sideplot with the concubine resolves.
Solid drama so far. The comedy works, the main leads are slowly growing and improving, with some time I’d wager these two will make for a great powercouple. I’m at episode 13 currently and I’m kinda impatient for FL to get going with some plotline of her own.
It’s not about it being too dark or not dark enough… it’s about being too cringe.
I don’t really see the conflict between the humour and the hype. I think KP can be executed with a Thai sense of humour while simultaneously bringing other new qualities into Thai BL. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how it develops : ) . I agree though that Not Me was EXCELLENT and it really stood out with its unique tone and themes.
Yes, there are a lot of people who view Nanno they way you see it, as a chaotic force of nature. But the fact…
Haha, yeah I guess that's a pretty fair assessment. Nanno certainly doesn't back down one she got her target locked - she always manages to lead/force people into some seriously messed up situations. It was fun reading your take on the series, made me remember how much I liked it and how weird/thoughtprovoking it was. So thanks :)
I really loved this show. I do agree that it's not perfect, some episodes are better than others.
I think I view Nanno and her driving force a bit different than this post. Some of the critique here focus on Nanno being excessively cruel, or not really bringing karma to the "right person". I guess I never saw Nanno as something "punishing evil" or some such. She much more to me represent a chaotic force of nature. She pokes and prods, orchestrating terrible circumstances where people are pushed into the possibility of terrible acts. That's why I think asking questions about why Nanno hurts innocent people, or why she does things that seemingly is not helpful at all doesn't make sense. From my perspective there is no ultimate goal or purpose that Nanno tries to achieve with her machinations. I kinda saw her setting up traps that people could have avoided if only they'd been decent human beings. Nanno never forces people to act, it's always their choice.
For example, in the "apologies" episode I agree that the 2 girls wouldn't have tried to get her raped if Nanno had been "kind". However, what makes the scenario interesting is to see what it would take for them to commit such a heinous act. What they did is in fact unforgivable, no matter how cruel Nanno treated them. While Nanno provoked them, they were still absolutely responsible for their actions. I think the episode is more impactful because if doesn't focus completely on boys victimizing girls. It's rather heartbreaking seeing 2 girls facilitating and participating in the rape of their classmate.
Anyway, this is a pretty cool series and it's fun since it invites discussion and different takes.
The fact that the men go around in fear of FL giving them baldspots.... What a fearsome reputation, lol.
Love the crass, brutish FL so far - hope she gets to shine by being streetsmart, and doesn't tip over into instead being annoyingly unreasonable and stupid.
Thai: - Bad buddy (well executed school romcom, healthy relationship) - Not Me (more serious with excellent cinematography, tackles political issues) - I Told Sunset About You (Serious tone + angst, coming of age story)
Korean: - To My Star (pretty chill with low angst, adults falling inlove) - Where Your Eyes Linger (short but sweet drama, friends to lovers)
Japanese: - Kieta Hatsukoi (adapted from manga, feels like a manga, 100% unadulterated fluff) - Cherry Magic (basically as fluffy as Kieta but with adults and better character development)
Super well made little series, I had zero expectations and it seriously impressed me. It was surprisingly emotional. Can only agree with basically all commenters that the cinematography was fantastic, as well as the acting.
It was clever that they focused the whole series around Siwon and his feelings of inadequacy. It's a short series so that gave it a feeling of coherence and meaning. I was probably more invested in this coming of age story, rather than the romantic plotline which IMO was less engaging.
I'm conflicted about how to feel about this movie. On one hand I think it was fascinating and pretty engaging.…
The connection between Joon and Ah-In could have been clearer, when did they decide to commit suicide, and did both survive? At the endscenes the two individuals seemed to be presented as one, and I was wondering what the director's thought with this was. While Joon and Ah-In had very different lives they also faced similar issues, and it did feel at times like they were different sides of the same coin. They were both societal outcasts and both engaged in prostitution. They seemed to share the same hopelessness. Something I found a bit funny was that they both had a toothache in the same cheek (+shown while eating burgers) don't know if that was another sign of their connection or only random.
And also, there were additional references to the idea of "two halves". Like the diary entry about the twins, or with the story of how the sun and moon were created. I wondered if the sun/moon story was a direct metaphor for the two mains. After the (attempted?) suicide Ah-In exits the building and it seems to be night. As he walks and shifts over to Joon it gets ligher, and in the final scene with Joon it's essentially daytime. So is this supposed to mirror the escape of the sibling to the heavens as moon/sun, and if so did the story in fact end with their double suicide?
I'm conflicted about how to feel about this movie. On one hand I think it was fascinating and pretty engaging. The movie consists of mostly long drawn out scenes with very little dialogue, Ah-In's story is told quite non-linearly. While it was a slow movie I was never bored. The movie managed to convey the alienation and marginalization that the main characters faze. To me at least, the lack of information and context provided about the characters brought out this message more clearly.
I will say that the ending confused me, and I'm really not sure about it.
I've given this series a fair chance to improve or find its groove but I'ma drop it now. The idea sounded fun…
I dislike the infantilization of Kuea with a passion, and that is only exacerbated by Lian being so parental - their dynamic is icky to me. The forced cohabitation plan from last week and the way Lian behaved surrounding that really tested my patience. Overall the story development and characterization is poor and I wish they'd spent more time and resources on the writing. I mean it's supposed to be a cute and funny fluff piece so the writing bar is pretty low, but I feel they're still not reaching it. This is just a personal opinion tho, I'm glad a lot of people are getting happiness out of the show, and hope the best for all the actors in the future.
Anyway, the divorce was clearly a good idea and hopefully Yinuo och Xiao Lu get to move on with people that can make them happier. They were so NOT good for eachother.
I think I view Nanno and her driving force a bit different than this post. Some of the critique here focus on Nanno being excessively cruel, or not really bringing karma to the "right person". I guess I never saw Nanno as something "punishing evil" or some such. She much more to me represent a chaotic force of nature. She pokes and prods, orchestrating terrible circumstances where people are pushed into the possibility of terrible acts. That's why I think asking questions about why Nanno hurts innocent people, or why she does things that seemingly is not helpful at all doesn't make sense. From my perspective there is no ultimate goal or purpose that Nanno tries to achieve with her machinations. I kinda saw her setting up traps that people could have avoided if only they'd been decent human beings. Nanno never forces people to act, it's always their choice.
For example, in the "apologies" episode I agree that the 2 girls wouldn't have tried to get her raped if Nanno had been "kind". However, what makes the scenario interesting is to see what it would take for them to commit such a heinous act. What they did is in fact unforgivable, no matter how cruel Nanno treated them. While Nanno provoked them, they were still absolutely responsible for their actions. I think the episode is more impactful because if doesn't focus completely on boys victimizing girls. It's rather heartbreaking seeing 2 girls facilitating and participating in the rape of their classmate.
Anyway, this is a pretty cool series and it's fun since it invites discussion and different takes.
Love the crass, brutish FL so far - hope she gets to shine by being streetsmart, and doesn't tip over into instead being annoyingly unreasonable and stupid.
Some I would personally recommend
Thai:
- Bad buddy (well executed school romcom, healthy relationship)
- Not Me (more serious with excellent cinematography, tackles political issues)
- I Told Sunset About You (Serious tone + angst, coming of age story)
Korean:
- To My Star (pretty chill with low angst, adults falling inlove)
- Where Your Eyes Linger (short but sweet drama, friends to lovers)
Japanese:
- Kieta Hatsukoi (adapted from manga, feels like a manga, 100% unadulterated fluff)
- Cherry Magic (basically as fluffy as Kieta but with adults and better character development)
It was clever that they focused the whole series around Siwon and his feelings of inadequacy. It's a short series so that gave it a feeling of coherence and meaning. I was probably more invested in this coming of age story, rather than the romantic plotline which IMO was less engaging.
Hope there's a second season : )
And also, there were additional references to the idea of "two halves". Like the diary entry about the twins, or with the story of how the sun and moon were created. I wondered if the sun/moon story was a direct metaphor for the two mains. After the (attempted?) suicide Ah-In exits the building and it seems to be night. As he walks and shifts over to Joon it gets ligher, and in the final scene with Joon it's essentially daytime. So is this supposed to mirror the escape of the sibling to the heavens as moon/sun, and if so did the story in fact end with their double suicide?
I will say that the ending confused me, and I'm really not sure about it.
This is just a personal opinion tho, I'm glad a lot of people are getting happiness out of the show, and hope the best for all the actors in the future.