Are we just going to ignore that the leads chemistry is so so bad, non existent really. I’m on episode 11 and…
Clearly any conversation about chemistry is going to be somewhat subjective. Perhaps the fact that other commenters are "ignoring" that particular factor is possibly because they don't think it's a problem or that there's even a lack of chemistry. Everyone has their own views on this but personally for me I thought that they had chemistry from Day 1.
It’s sad that some viewers are putting this drama down and rating it unfavorably. It’s such a nice series.…
Personally I prefer the way romance is done here to the "start dating early and break up and then get back together half an hour before the show ends".
very interesting how the romantic interests of the respective leads tried to manipulate them with nostalgia. The…
While you can say that about Su Weiran and Ning Meng, I don't think Yimeng was trying to manipulate Jiming at all. Zeng Yuhang had just told her that Jiming has been waiting for her all this time and she was just responding to that. Afterall, (I'm not sure where you're at) she helps Jiming realise later that there's no dwelling on the past and that he had already changed. She was the one that helped set him free.
As far as Ning Meng continuing with Su Weiran despite the red flags, I think it's very consistent with who she is. She's idealistic and optimistic, always willing to give people a chance. And of course she felt sorry for him too for losing his longtime girlfriend.
Good to see Ning Meng dump the schizophrenic senior like a hot potato. DV should not be acceptable under any circumstances. He's been very manipulative and controlling from the start. Ning Meng shouldn't have to walk around her dating partner on eggshells.
The guy is very low energy unless he completely loses it.
Here we go again resigning from a dream she just achieved after so much hard work just to help ML stand in his…
I don't see how starting a company with Lu Jiming from scratch is resigning from her dream. The dream to do investment is still at the heart of the new company.
Besides I think we all know that Ning Meng's rapid rise to the top of the corporate ladder is rather unrealistic and this is just the show's way of trying to prove to Lu Jiming that he was wrong about her in the first place.
I dropped and held some of my watchlists because of this drama
I've put Who Rules the World on hold for this. :D And a couple of other K dramas. The only other drama that is comparable with this one is My Liberation Notes.
Wow. Su Weiran gets creepier and more manipulative as their relationship progresses. He really did the hard sell. Set himself up as the underdog with the sob story of the girlfriend that got away because of some second gen rich boy, brought her to their university and played on her sense of nostalgia. Shows up on the mountain. The guy's relentless. You have to give him that. There's a disturbing fine line between attentiveness and being a control freak.
For most part I agree with you, but she has experienced a few negatives. The way they treated her with the RV…
Let's just say that it's a combination of opportunities, smarts and hard work that got her where she is.
We can't assume that just because someone is good in their job that it necessarily follows that they're good at everything. She's still human. The key thing is that He Yuelan is her best friend's boyfriend not her boyfriend and he had a pattern of deceit that was catching up on him. With Su Weiran, it's a lot closer to home. It's often harder to see the enemy closest to you especially because they're hiding in plain sight. It has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. She is emotionally invested in him. She still thinks of him as that nice senior from university. Why would she even think that he is capable of anything unscrupulous without solid evidence? She's fingering He Yuelan as the villain and not looking elsewhere.
I'm not up to Episode 25 yet but I can see why Ning Meng might be completely blindsided by the villains of the piece and it is completely consistent with who she is and what she's done so far.
It occurred to me quite early on that Ning Meng is rather idealistic in her outlook on life. In fact, I think, she's been rather fortunate. After almost 3 decades as a working mother, I can tell you that it's not what you know but who you know. Apart from the first job I got, all subsequent jobs I managed to get was through my "connections" and relationships. This is a reality of life in my country. People (especially small to medium businesses) are reluctant to hire just anyone off the street and tend to trust recommendations and word of mouth much more.
Ning Meng, thus far I think has been very starry eyed about her industry. Yes, she's competent but she's had a highly supportive boss in Shi Ying. That's been crucial in her recent success. Regardless of what we might think of Lu Jiming, he did give her an important break so that she had a platform to demonstrate her competence. Afterall Shi Ying is a strategic partner of Joint Capital so she's somewhat privy to what's been going on. On some level it's hard work but on some level it is about having the support. Just imagine if Shi Ying wasn't the supportive employer that she is. We don't really have to imagine, we know what happened to Ning Meng before she started working for Shi Ying. So far Ning Meng has had something of a dream run and that is in part due to the support that she's getting from various avenues.
In her conversations with Su Weiran, Ning Meng shows herself to be very idealistic about passion projects. She's made some good calls with Max and Mobi but she hasn't really experienced any career altering backlash for projects that haven't worked out. Perhaps that's gone to her head. I can't say for certain. She's a good researcher but doesn't necessarily apply those skills to relationships because she comes from a fairly sheltered loving home. I imagine she thinks the best of people because she always eventually wins people over. It would be easy for Su Weiran to blindside her because of their past connection. With regard to him, she still imagines him to be the nice guy of her uni days. He's trading on that and she's happy to buy into it for as long as possible. With regards to Qi Qi's boyfriend, he has been acting the submissive boyfriend for so long that he's taken the part seriously. Certainly I think the warning signs with regards to Su Weiran were always there but because she was trying to get over Lu Jiming she honestly didn't have her wits about her as she should have.
This is the lesson she has to learn. The world out there are full of sharks -- in and out of the industry. Not everyone has principles and ethical standards. People change too -- for better and for worse.
I must one of the few that really like how the romance is written. I am rooting for the leads all the way. While Lu Jiming is a bad tempered tactless soul, it's not hard to see where that comes from when he interacts with his father. The man turned his son into a machine and yet there's a shred of humanity untouched by the father's machinations. I love how he stands up for his stepmother and he's fiercely loyal to the people who mean something to him. Just because he's a workplace tyrant to his staff doesn't mean he is devoid of principles. Rather than being unidimensional, I think he's more fully fleshed out than most people in the show.
It is fascinating how the investment industry parallels and serves as a metaphor for relationships in general and romance more specifically. It's almost laughable the effort most career types put into work and getting that deal while they invest so little time in the all important relationships. Although Lu Jiming is extreme on some level, the way he learns the principle of accommodation is unerringly delightful. The entire arc with Phoenix Inc in Hangzhou shows the extent in which he is capable of evolving because he genuinely cares about Ning Meng even if he pretends that he's being pragmatic. What's also interesting is that she starts doing things for him without feeling compelled to because it's a natural response to a much less domineering and kinder, gentler Lu Jiming. The lesson there is clear -- investing time in energy in people is the key to long term success.
I can only imagine that Ning Meng decided to date Su Weiran mostly because he's not Lu Jiming. Although I think he's dull as dishwater and creepy to boot, for Ning Meng, she made the decision on the currency of a borrowed past or a case of what might have been. It's also a nice distraction from not having to think about Lu Jiming and Han Yimeng. It is interesting how Su Weiran uses the past as his pitch and Ning Meng goes along despite not really being that committed to that project. The question I pose would be -- In this day and age, would you just date a guy because you had a crush on him at Uni and just because he's nice to you? Is that enough? In the short term there might be benefits but not if you both enter into the arrangement with wholly different expectations.
Also interesting is that Yimeng's ex was the controlling type and an artistic has been. Jiming was that way too. However, the difference between Jiming and Su Weiran is that one of these two men is gradually learning how to let go while the other one obviously hasn't learnt anything from past experience.
I don't know but it seems obvious to me that the primary idea behind the love polygon is about timing. I'm not convinced it's just to make LJM jealous or to realise his feelings for NM. I think he would have come to the same conclusion on his own if given enough time because regardless of appearances, LJM has always valued NM. The arrival of the senior only expedites things. Timing while not everything plays a big part in the success of a long-term relationship. Lu Jiaming's childhood crush is right -- when the time has passed, it has passed. And it's not just missing the boat. There's no going back or reliving the past when one person has moved on. Moreover, there's always the other side of the spectrum and that is coupling too early with someone for whatever reasons --undue pressure or because it's a solution to an immediate problem. NM's senior is trying to relive the past and short cut the process of a courtship just because they had a past. He's in too much of a hurry and as a result he is easily insecure. He hasn't allowed for time to do its work in NM's heart. LJM needs to know that if he doesn't strike while the iron is hot, he will blow his chances.
But as I said, timing is not everything. Two people's hearts have to be aligned as well. Even if one is ahead of the game so to speak but the other's heart is elsewhere, it's still going to end in tears.
The heart is a strange beast and doesn't work in accordance with logic. Love isn't about having the right qualifications because the ideal man doesn't exist.
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Everyone has their own views on this but personally for me I thought that they had chemistry from Day 1.
As far as Ning Meng continuing with Su Weiran despite the red flags, I think it's very consistent with who she is. She's idealistic and optimistic, always willing to give people a chance. And of course she felt sorry for him too for losing his longtime girlfriend.
The guy is very low energy unless he completely loses it.
Besides I think we all know that Ning Meng's rapid rise to the top of the corporate ladder is rather unrealistic and this is just the show's way of trying to prove to Lu Jiming that he was wrong about her in the first place.
The only other drama that is comparable with this one is My Liberation Notes.
There's a disturbing fine line between attentiveness and being a control freak.
We can't assume that just because someone is good in their job that it necessarily follows that they're good at everything. She's still human. The key thing is that He Yuelan is her best friend's boyfriend not her boyfriend and he had a pattern of deceit that was catching up on him. With Su Weiran, it's a lot closer to home. It's often harder to see the enemy closest to you especially because they're hiding in plain sight. It has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. She is emotionally invested in him. She still thinks of him as that nice senior from university. Why would she even think that he is capable of anything unscrupulous without solid evidence? She's fingering He Yuelan as the villain and not looking elsewhere.
It occurred to me quite early on that Ning Meng is rather idealistic in her outlook on life. In fact, I think, she's been rather fortunate. After almost 3 decades as a working mother, I can tell you that it's not what you know but who you know. Apart from the first job I got, all subsequent jobs I managed to get was through my "connections" and relationships. This is a reality of life in my country. People (especially small to medium businesses) are reluctant to hire just anyone off the street and tend to trust recommendations and word of mouth much more.
Ning Meng, thus far I think has been very starry eyed about her industry. Yes, she's competent but she's had a highly supportive boss in Shi Ying. That's been crucial in her recent success. Regardless of what we might think of Lu Jiming, he did give her an important break so that she had a platform to demonstrate her competence. Afterall Shi Ying is a strategic partner of Joint Capital so she's somewhat privy to what's been going on. On some level it's hard work but on some level it is about having the support. Just imagine if Shi Ying wasn't the supportive employer that she is. We don't really have to imagine, we know what happened to Ning Meng before she started working for Shi Ying. So far Ning Meng has had something of a dream run and that is in part due to the support that she's getting from various avenues.
In her conversations with Su Weiran, Ning Meng shows herself to be very idealistic about passion projects. She's made some good calls with Max and Mobi but she hasn't really experienced any career altering backlash for projects that haven't worked out. Perhaps that's gone to her head. I can't say for certain. She's a good researcher but doesn't necessarily apply those skills to relationships because she comes from a fairly sheltered loving home. I imagine she thinks the best of people because she always eventually wins people over. It would be easy for Su Weiran to blindside her because of their past connection. With regard to him, she still imagines him to be the nice guy of her uni days. He's trading on that and she's happy to buy into it for as long as possible. With regards to Qi Qi's boyfriend, he has been acting the submissive boyfriend for so long that he's taken the part seriously. Certainly I think the warning signs with regards to Su Weiran were always there but because she was trying to get over Lu Jiming she honestly didn't have her wits about her as she should have.
This is the lesson she has to learn. The world out there are full of sharks -- in and out of the industry. Not everyone has principles and ethical standards. People change too -- for better and for worse.
It is fascinating how the investment industry parallels and serves as a metaphor for relationships in general and romance more specifically. It's almost laughable the effort most career types put into work and getting that deal while they invest so little time in the all important relationships. Although Lu Jiming is extreme on some level, the way he learns the principle of accommodation is unerringly delightful. The entire arc with Phoenix Inc in Hangzhou shows the extent in which he is capable of evolving because he genuinely cares about Ning Meng even if he pretends that he's being pragmatic. What's also interesting is that she starts doing things for him without feeling compelled to because it's a natural response to a much less domineering and kinder, gentler Lu Jiming. The lesson there is clear -- investing time in energy in people is the key to long term success.
I can only imagine that Ning Meng decided to date Su Weiran mostly because he's not Lu Jiming. Although I think he's dull as dishwater and creepy to boot, for Ning Meng, she made the decision on the currency of a borrowed past or a case of what might have been. It's also a nice distraction from not having to think about Lu Jiming and Han Yimeng. It is interesting how Su Weiran uses the past as his pitch and Ning Meng goes along despite not really being that committed to that project. The question I pose would be -- In this day and age, would you just date a guy because you had a crush on him at Uni and just because he's nice to you? Is that enough? In the short term there might be benefits but not if you both enter into the arrangement with wholly different expectations.
Also interesting is that Yimeng's ex was the controlling type and an artistic has been. Jiming was that way too. However, the difference between Jiming and Su Weiran is that one of these two men is gradually learning how to let go while the other one obviously hasn't learnt anything from past experience.
But as I said, timing is not everything. Two people's hearts have to be aligned as well. Even if one is ahead of the game so to speak but the other's heart is elsewhere, it's still going to end in tears.
The heart is a strange beast and doesn't work in accordance with logic. Love isn't about having the right qualifications because the ideal man doesn't exist.