Elfkin

I agree they both monumentally suck at communication. For entirely different reasons neither of them are good at truthing.

But The end of episode 6 made sense to me. One, we know from previous episodes that Kuea is desperate for approval and love, and that's why he lies in the first place. His lies are a self defense thing to protect the parts of his life that people might disapprove of and thereby take away from him. Two, It hasn't made it through Kuea's thick frontal skull bones yet that if Lian can't love him for all the stuff he's hiding then he doesn't deserve Kuea. But that's insecurity for you. Three, He makes a show of wanting to break off the engagement, because who wouldn't after episode 1? But he can't follow through because he's more afraid of losing Lian and suffering the breakup than he is dedicated to standing up for himself. Again, insecurities.

But Kuea is in love and wants to be loved back, very badly. And in that moment when Lian really hurt his feelings, he seemed to be looking for a life raft. So when Lian went for the kiss instead of a reasonable approach to Kuea's breakdown, like an apology, Kuea was desperate to soak up the love. We get the idea that over the years Kuea has been given more expectations and limitations than he's been given validation.

Now, for Lian it makes sense because Lian is a rude boi. He avoids any and all things that he feels puts him at a disadvantage. Like apologizing, or making amends for hurts he causes. Instead he tends to use distraction techniques. Like suddenly playing a big game of Let's Clean Kuea's Wisdom Teeth With My Tongue instead of just apologizing for being a reactionary jerk.

In this context, the kiss makes sense. The rest was a mess of manipulations that I am not comfortable with, but also not surprised by. I really want Kuea to stop being a pushover for Lian and start being his own advocate.

Actually there's lots you can say to that. Like "I am sorry I snapped at you and hurt your feelings and I'm sorry I left you feeling like I didn't love you". See? Simple.

BounPrem ace it no matter what they show up in. They need their own show, dammit!

I'll be real, if you like toxic behavior and creepy power dynamics, then you are going to LOVE this show. if, like the rest of us, you were expecting something a bit less shady, then you might want to prepare yourself.

Oh SNAP! Savage!

Damn BPG. ROFL!

[claps] Just that. The whiners here spend an equal 200 pages complaining about the people posting things they don't like instead of pumping their show and talking about how good it is. ROFL. Apparently the complaint posts are more interesting to them then the show.

The show's pacing needs work. Flat out there are always scenes that just drag. The Lian and Yi scenes together are always boring. But even the scenes with Kuea running around are starting to get old.

But more than that, I feel really bad for Kuea and Diao. Kuea more than even Diao, who seems to be getting a handle on dealing with Yi, finally. Kuea though, has had Lian manipulating him the whole time and sometimes even with the help of Kuea's parents, Yi and Jay. Diao is the singular decent person in Kuea's life and even he's not been there for Kuea much recently. Every time Lian pins Kuea or advances on him and gets up in his personal space amd doesn't back up, or forces him to do or be somewhere, or enters Kuea's personal space without permission, it's gross. And now Kuea has missed a chance at a dream career because of Lian's controlling nature.

There's also the kiss. I can't say how cringe the kiss was. Just days after saying he didn't love Kuea and then forcing him to move in with Lian against his will, Lian is hauling him up on the counter and kissing him instead of having a healthy conversation. It makes my skin crawl.

Hitting the hot topics right on the head of the nail. Both of you. Brava!

You seem a little poorly equipped to do anything but just throw the one number out and insist it proves other shows are less good or popular. It's a fallacious argument.

That's not how actual data works. If you want to convince people of something you don't keep banging on windows with an single, incomplete, unsubstantiated idea. Eventually people are simply going to ignore you or block you which is pretty much what I'm going to do since you aren't apparently able to grasp what I'm saying.

You can keep making that claim, but that doesn't mean anyone is going to take you seriously. The one piece of data you do have is too lacking in context to present the argument you've chosen to pin to it and you are ignoring any other data either because you don't know what to do with it, can't be bothered to collect and analyze it or it counters your argument. Either way you're pretty much just doing the equivalent of a child waving a flag around with their favorite number drawn on it with crayon, screaming at people around them to notice the pretty number and be impressed.

You can't weaponize a number unless you can prove the number actually means what you say it does.

First yes, if you like a show you press like. That's, uh, what the button is for. If you don't fine, If your family doesn't bother to sign in, still fine. But if you didn't think the "likes" on YouTube had any relation to the actual number of people who were fans then you wouldn't have provided the data. You just didn't like that after bragging about 100K likes someone actually did the math. Up until then you were all about "Look at how many likes it has".

Now as for the fact that you keep hammering the idea that other shows don't get as many views... many other shows are available on venues other than Youtube and in higher quality versions. This one is an instant gratification cookie. It's easy to get to on Youtube and the versions available there are neither poor quality res nor edited to shorten them, so there's no reason NOT to watch it there. Particularly because they are available with an unusually wide range of language subtitle options.

That's not a mark on the show's quality, that's just good planning on the part of the company distributing it on Youtube. They wanted to concentrate viewers there so they offered a very WIDE variety of language subtitles and a reasonably high res version. The varied language subs alone could easily account for a certain amount of unusual traffic since almost no BL's natively have that many language options on Youtube. Often people watching a BL can watch it subtitled in English and a couple of other languages, but they have to go onto pirate sites to find version with rarer language subs often created by fans. Again, not a sign of the quality of Cutie Pie as a story, just a sign the people distributing it gave the process some forethought and attention, and since you have no statistics on the actual differentials of subtitle availability compared to other BL's, you really can't disprove that it's a meaningful data point. You simply don't have enough data to prove that the views pn Cutie Pie episodes equal the show's true interest or quality in relation to other BL's available on Youtube.

And even if you're right, just because many people wanted to watch Cutie Pie initially does NOT mean it's living up to expectation. But you go on ahead and live in your bubble dream where if you keep repeating Youtube viewership numbers you'll win the crusade to convince the world this show isn't a flaming pile of shit.

I'm not sure there are any such posts. Sounds like a weirdo conspiracy theory to me.

Soooo boring. But also kind of consistent in it's fetish baggage. So I myself watch it with all my friends (We're all gay men) and turn it into a drinking game. It's shit theater with no decent plot and boring AF, but you'll get drunk really fast if you set a parameter like "Everybody drink everytime Lian does something stupid and pointless behind Kuea's back"

Or my personal favorite "Drink everytime Kuea caves when Lian gets in his face."

I think your math should get a look for this bizarre excuse of a show. (It's right out of a Wattapad or fanfiction.net trope-splosion fic. )

You are hooting over 100K likes, but you admitted this was in relation to 2 million views. That means a 20 to 1 ratio on approval. So for every 20 people who watched the show, 1 liked it. Not a really popular show, then. Just a hyped one that many people then either drop or just hate watch.

I'm hate watching it because I and my friends are laughing at the bullshit storylines and ridiculous characters and have turned it into the world's most hilarious drinking game.

But quality storytelling? Oh fuck no. hahahahahahahaha!

So?

Like people had said, viewership doesn't equal quality or approval. It just equals people having to go there to see the show. And many people are hate-watching it. LOL! Myself included. So I guess your numbers don't mean what you think they do.

I brought the exact amount of facts to the table you did.

Just because we don't like the story doesn't mean we don't understand the story. Understanding that is your problem. But uh, sorry not sorry.

I am riding the edge of doing the same thing. The leads are bad news. Dude SUCH bad news.

Ohhhh! Thank you! You opened the door to this week's ranting by going on a rant yourself. I like your style. Very on brand.

Me too. I can't tell if he's controlling him because his neurotic levels of guilt have morphed into some kind of controlling love thing, or if he's got some weird obsession about keeping Diao safe like he's some child or pet. It doesn't matter. It's bad.