Idk, something about this arc is falling flat for me. I'll try to put it into words:
1 - Too much to fit into 8 episodes: I know a lot of people thought this about Arthit and Dao's story, but imho, most of their arc once Arthit realizes his feelings was pretty straightforward to cut down. I do think we could've done well with 10 episodes, but 8 is fine too.
However, with TigerNao, there are TONS of important plot points that are yet to be explored. Everything with Nao's stepfather, Tiger's training, his relationship with his brother, the second side couple, Tiger's mom's story. I just don't know how they're going to do justice to all of these since most of them NEED to exist for the plot to move forward. I feel like they could've at least cut out LeoBen or not given them much screentime since they're not super important to the main plot.
2 - Not letting emotions sit: As a result, big emotional moments aren't being given the weight they deserve. Tiger killing someone for the first time is a HUGE deal, but we barely sit with the aftermath. His brother feeling conflicted between protecting Tiger and realizing he's torturing him is intense in the novel, you end up feeling horrible for him. In the show, it's played down to the point where most BL reactors who haven't read the books literally physically recoil when they see Leo.
Also, Tiger realizing that Nao is 'talking' to a girl is a watershed moment where he finally realizes he loves Nao. In the show, we're barely given time to sit with Tiger's emotions apart from one small scene.
A big reason we all cried in that scene where Dao tells Arthit about his mom's soul is because there was proper build up to it and we were allowed to sit with the scene for a full 5-7 minutes. This story isn't being given that treatment.
3 - Wabi Sabi's lack of promotion: This story very much feels like a stepchild of the Fourever universe in terms of how the company is treating it. First off, making the characters so disconnected with the rest of the stories in Season 2 makes it tough for viewers to connect with them. I think the company just assumed that most Fourever You viewers have watched JohanNorth's story because of their popularity and will be excited for TigerNao. But they failed to count for the fact that Season 1 came out in 2024 and people who were excited for TigerNao back then have probably moved on by now. Even if they didn't want to tease them in other stories, they could've at least released a TigerNao cut on WeTV or 'the story until now' special episode to refresh memories.
4 - Flat acting compared to the other parts in Season 2: BeverTonliew and NgernOat are great actors, but what made their stories great is that the side characters were incredible as well. I mean, how many people cried because of Donut and Meen? How many people instantly hated Typhoon's father?
But I feel like this cast aren't quite there yet. Some are just 'okay' (Tiger and Nao's friends + the actor playing Leo/Singha) while some others are actually bad (I think the actor playing Dan is adorable, but he's very unnatural). PieGolf are okay as leads, but they're being weighed down. And tbh, they don't really hold a candle to BeverTonliew or NgernOat. I don't need to say anything about Tonliew's acting. I did mention proper build up to Arthit's emotional scene, but that build up wouldn't have worked if not for Ngern's micro expressions and reactions. And Oat somehow managed to make sure a robotic character didn't come across as flat. I just don't think PieGolf have those chops yet.
I was waiting for this one for so long. This was the story which intrigued me most . I think the actors really…
I do agree, I think the acting here isn't as smooth the other arcs. But all of those actors have been acting for years and PieGolf are a bit newer so understandable.
I think the bigger issues are the supporting cast (and as adorable as Dan is, he's the weakest link in the cast so far lol)
Right, and he isn’t even trying to be? 😭 The characters and actors are completely different, so comparing…
I mean acting chops in pulling off an out there character while still making him likeable and believable in the context of the show. I don't think Boss is doing a very good job.
Pond recently spoke about how even though others might find Thee ridiculous, everything he does is very serious to HIM, so he put effort into playing him with a balance of comedy and that seriousness. I don't think Boss really understands that and ends up overdoing it.
As for the comparisons, the show is very clearly modelled off of Me and Thee, given how they changed the source material to be comedic to this extent when the novel was more of a regular rom com. So they're kinda inviting the comparisons themselves.
why such a big gap between stories?!? also i think we should've seen both Tiger & Nao pop up from time to…
Unfortunately TigerNao are pretty disconnected from the other couples in the novel too (apart from JohanNorth ofc). Tiger did make an appearance in TofahTyphoon's story, but that was cut from the series.
i think the Wabi Sabi should've at least released a 'story until now' episode with a compilation of TigerNao's scenes in Part 1.
It really bothers me that it's called FOURever You when there are 5 couples
It was initially only supposed to be the 4 doctor couples. But TigerNao gained so much popularity as a side cp during JohanNorth's arc that they decided to adapt their novel too. It was kinda last minute (they weren't included in the original Fourever You pilot back in 2024 or the joint OST)
I'm going to be honest, I just watched the trailer of the new story and the acting of PieGolf felt awkward and…
Dw, both Pie and Golf are great actors and have actually been a pairing for longer than the others (they were supposed to work together in Star Scope, all the way back in 2023, you can check out the pilot trailer for it), so they're actually quite comfortable with each other.
why does lately its winter season feel like its removed from the story? I am re watching s1 and it feels like…
Tiger and Nao have known each other for 6+ years (and Tiger has had a crush on Nao for just as long).
They do get together only after the events of ArthitDao's portion, but their story begins in high school because that's when they met and became best friends. So their timeline is:
High school: They meet Final year of high school: Tiger says he'll go to whichever university Nao wants to go to Final year: They both get accepted into Chiang Mai University College: They both attend for engineering (Tiger even follows Nao to his department lol) Third year of college: The main events of Lately, It's Winter Season.
1 - Too much to fit into 8 episodes: I know a lot of people thought this about Arthit and Dao's story, but imho, most of their arc once Arthit realizes his feelings was pretty straightforward to cut down. I do think we could've done well with 10 episodes, but 8 is fine too.
However, with TigerNao, there are TONS of important plot points that are yet to be explored. Everything with Nao's stepfather, Tiger's training, his relationship with his brother, the second side couple, Tiger's mom's story. I just don't know how they're going to do justice to all of these since most of them NEED to exist for the plot to move forward. I feel like they could've at least cut out LeoBen or not given them much screentime since they're not super important to the main plot.
2 - Not letting emotions sit: As a result, big emotional moments aren't being given the weight they deserve. Tiger killing someone for the first time is a HUGE deal, but we barely sit with the aftermath. His brother feeling conflicted between protecting Tiger and realizing he's torturing him is intense in the novel, you end up feeling horrible for him. In the show, it's played down to the point where most BL reactors who haven't read the books literally physically recoil when they see Leo.
Also, Tiger realizing that Nao is 'talking' to a girl is a watershed moment where he finally realizes he loves Nao. In the show, we're barely given time to sit with Tiger's emotions apart from one small scene.
A big reason we all cried in that scene where Dao tells Arthit about his mom's soul is because there was proper build up to it and we were allowed to sit with the scene for a full 5-7 minutes. This story isn't being given that treatment.
3 - Wabi Sabi's lack of promotion: This story very much feels like a stepchild of the Fourever universe in terms of how the company is treating it. First off, making the characters so disconnected with the rest of the stories in Season 2 makes it tough for viewers to connect with them. I think the company just assumed that most Fourever You viewers have watched JohanNorth's story because of their popularity and will be excited for TigerNao. But they failed to count for the fact that Season 1 came out in 2024 and people who were excited for TigerNao back then have probably moved on by now. Even if they didn't want to tease them in other stories, they could've at least released a TigerNao cut on WeTV or 'the story until now' special episode to refresh memories.
4 - Flat acting compared to the other parts in Season 2: BeverTonliew and NgernOat are great actors, but what made their stories great is that the side characters were incredible as well. I mean, how many people cried because of Donut and Meen? How many people instantly hated Typhoon's father?
But I feel like this cast aren't quite there yet. Some are just 'okay' (Tiger and Nao's friends + the actor playing Leo/Singha) while some others are actually bad (I think the actor playing Dan is adorable, but he's very unnatural). PieGolf are okay as leads, but they're being weighed down. And tbh, they don't really hold a candle to BeverTonliew or NgernOat. I don't need to say anything about Tonliew's acting. I did mention proper build up to Arthit's emotional scene, but that build up wouldn't have worked if not for Ngern's micro expressions and reactions. And Oat somehow managed to make sure a robotic character didn't come across as flat. I just don't think PieGolf have those chops yet.
I think the bigger issues are the supporting cast (and as adorable as Dan is, he's the weakest link in the cast so far lol)
Pond recently spoke about how even though others might find Thee ridiculous, everything he does is very serious to HIM, so he put effort into playing him with a balance of comedy and that seriousness. I don't think Boss really understands that and ends up overdoing it.
As for the comparisons, the show is very clearly modelled off of Me and Thee, given how they changed the source material to be comedic to this extent when the novel was more of a regular rom com. So they're kinda inviting the comparisons themselves.
i think the Wabi Sabi should've at least released a 'story until now' episode with a compilation of TigerNao's scenes in Part 1.
They do get together only after the events of ArthitDao's portion, but their story begins in high school because that's when they met and became best friends. So their timeline is:
High school: They meet
Final year of high school: Tiger says he'll go to whichever university Nao wants to go to
Final year: They both get accepted into Chiang Mai University
College: They both attend for engineering (Tiger even follows Nao to his department lol)
Third year of college: The main events of Lately, It's Winter Season.