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Replying to sevce Jul 30, 2024
Nothing personal towards the authors, but about 9/10 book adaptations... when you read comments of book fans...…
Chinese drama producer/screenwriter/director change the time travel/rebirth/soul transmigration part from the original novel not because themselves want to do that but because it's one of their gov rule.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/china-bans-time-travel

Many Chinese dramas especially costume dramas were adapted from Chinese popular novels because popular novels usually have many fanbase so they could attract many audiences to gain profit and one of popular theme for these novels are time travel/rebirth/soul transmigration.

Another rule is the maximum episodes for one drama is only 40 episodes and the duration for each episode of the drama is only 45 minutes. If I'm not mistaken, this rule started on almost the end of year 2021.

But they are kinda lenient for duration of the drama rule so you can find many dramas usually could have 46 until 48 minutes, sometimes even reached until almost one hour for one episode, well, unless if there's people report about almost one hour duration to the authority so the drama will get cut down back to 45 until 48 minutes.

If they want to produce drama with more than 40 episodes, they need to separate the drama to two seasons and wait about one year after first season finished on air to get the second season on air.

Example of recent drama that separate into two seasons, Lost You Forever with Yang Zi as main actress.
https://kisskh.at/44985-lost-you-forever

But it is rare for Chinese dramas to have more than 40 episodes nowadays because when you separated the dramas to two seasons & since the dramas usually adapted from novels, they already get spoiled about the storyline from the novel so often the audiences anticipation for the second season declined because they need to wait for one year for the second season. And when the anticipation declined, they gain less profit.
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Replying to Lulu Jul 30, 2024
I hope the romance is as great as The Double, or The Story of Kunning Palace. I know it's not the same story lines…
This drama definitely about Zhao Lu Si character growth and romance will just be a side genre.

She is a former slave that rise to a businesswoman in this drama & I read some comment mentioned before that in the unfinished original novel, Liu Yu Ning character has a love hate feeling with her & want to sold her as slave or something like that?

Since Zhao Lu Si & Liu Yu Ning will be main couple, I think their romance will surely be slow burn LOL
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Replying to XXxxEllyxx Jul 29, 2024
Whoever gets casted will get so much hate I already feel bad for the actor and actresses that will get chosen.…
What's the issue with First Frost?

I know some people especially new watcher of Chinese dramas from international audience asking why didn't they cast Victor Ma in Hidden Love as main lead in First Frost but many Chinese & international audiences that read the novel & already watch Bai Jing Ting's dramas are satisfied with Bai Jing Ting as main actor in First Frost because he is a talented actor & they believe he can play as main male lead, Sang Yan excellently.

But yes, the main casts especially the main actor in Rebirth Of The Malicious Empress Of Military Lineage will surely get bash because according to the Chinese & international novel reader the main male lead, Xie Jing Xing is too dashing & the author keep emphasized how handsome he is LOL.

I even read some Chinese comments stated that there's no suitable actors in China can play as the main male lead for this drama.
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On The Double Jul 26, 2024
Title The Double
I just know that one of supporting actress in The Double, Zhao Qing, that played as Situ Jiu Yue was actually AI swapped for actress Jiang Yi Yi 0_0
https://kisskh.at/people/85195-zhao-qing
https://dramapanda.com/2024/06/actress-the-double-face-replaced-ai-technology.html
Jiang Yi Yi was born in 2001 and a former child actress. She also had tax evasion case.
https://kisskh.at/people/7277-jiang-yi-yi
https://twitter.com/dramapotatoe/status/1698688081665413631
She is still young but I wonder if she can make comeback in drama again.

Fan Bing Bing is the most famous of course if we talk about celebrity that involved in tax evasion case in China.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/the-untold-story-disappearance-of-fan-bingbing-worlds-biggest-movie-star
https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/china-personalities/article/3264792/tax-concerns-persist-china-actress-fan-bingbing-despite-new-malaysian-tourism-envoy-role
https://kisskh.at/people/1085-fan-bing-bing

First drama where I saw Fan Bing Bing was as supporting role in drama Pearl Princess (1998), also known as My Fair Princess.
https://youtu.be/nvhe8a2dEh8?si=mupFmz1LgFLpZ0qQ
https://kisskh.at/1923-princess-pearl

Ruby Lin is also so sweet in that drama. Now, she already married with actor Wallace Huo and they have a daughter together.
https://kisskh.at/people/1318-lin-ruby
https://kisskh.at/people/1331-huo-wallace
https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/entertainment/2023/12/15/taiwanese-actress-ruby-lin-on-40-year-age-gap-with-daughter-039it-makes-me-cry039

What Ruby Lin mentioned here is so true:
(When asked if her daughter would follow her footsteps and join the entertainment industry, Lin said she'll try her best to dissuade her.
"When I started out in this industry, the world was much simpler. Technology wasn't as advanced then. Now, it's easy for people to criticise and cyberbully others online," she said.
Despite spending nearly three decades in the industry, Lin admitted that she still struggles with handling harsh comments, and she can't bear to let her daughter experience the same thing.
She added: "I'd rather she stay a normal person. If she enjoys music, she can play the piano. If she likes dancing, she can be a performer. She doesn't need to enter showbiz.")

I'm crushing hard on actress Zhao Wei in that drama, you know! But now, she also vanished from Chinese entertainment industry T_T
https://kisskh.at/people/1281-zhao-vicki
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/celebrity/article/3149831/epic-rise-and-fall-my-fair-princess-cast-zhao-wei-and-fan
I'm sharing this one of the ost because I really like it!
https://youtu.be/HnM7ZCmKT_c?si=5LJ_acyJTYADrW11

Other than Fan Bing Bing, these are Chinese actors & actresses that I know got banned because of tax scandal:

1) Zheng Shuang (born in 1991)
https://x.com/dramapotatoe_/status/1431083306422964224
Well, she also had other cases (surrogacy, fake document) so she got blacklisted forever.
https://x.com/dramapotatoe_/status/1431086816308776961
https://x.com/dramapotatoe/status/1351493812514770946
https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/china-personalities/article/3257913/disgraced-actress-zheng-shuang-sued-production-firm-owing-us125-million-faces-3-year-jail-if-assets
https://kisskh.at/people/944-zheng-shuang

2) Deng Lun (born in 1992)
https://twitter.com/dramapotatoe/status/1503663295940620289
His drama that I want to watch, Night Wanderer, just can only be the producer family heirloom now T_T
https://youtu.be/V6BdI2h7ZxU?si=p0wM0BPNx2lGw7sp
https://kisskh.at/people/6001-deng-lun

3) Yuan Bing Yuan (born in 1992)
https://twitter.com/dramapotatoe/status/1703004999377465674
Her drama that I want to watch, The Emperor's Love, just can only be the producer family heirloom now T_T
https://youtu.be/YuPw6J_ZKug?si=kPdyO4CzJ4ieMlbr
https://kisskh.at/people/13158-yuan-crystal

4) Song Zu Er (born in 1998, child actress)
https://twitter.com/dramapotatoe/status/1697212630174453971
Her drama that I want to watch, The Prisoner Of Beauty, just can only be the producer family heirloom now T_T
https://youtu.be/_P50C6HmRJc?si=gaHALP71RHDfu5i6
https://kisskh.at/people/16660-song-zu-er

Influencers in China also:
https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/china-personalities/article/3256572/can-you-believe-young-chinese-influencer-little-fairy-77-million-fans-pays-us13-million-taxes?campaign=3256572&module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article

I hope my favourite actors & actresses in China pay their taxes! There were so many cases of actors & actresses involved in tax evasion that got banned as reminder T_T

Sory for the long post, everyone! Rest assured that I will do it again \^_^/
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Replying to Enzek Jul 26, 2024
Title The Double
Main actress name in The Princess Royal is Zhao Jin Mai while main actor name is Zhang Ling He. Zhao Jin Mai used…
Yes, I also had read Chinese comments that complaint about Zhang Ling He diction, delivery line on Bilibili.

But still, many comments think the main reason Zhang Ling He couldn't dub himself for The Princess Royal was because they rushed post-production since the director of The Princess Royal get many of his previous dramas still stuck/shelved.

*Censorship (drama Jade Lovers - actress Zheng Shuang)
https://kisskh.at/16211-jade-lovers
*Tax evasion (drama The Legend Of Ba Qing - actress Fan Bin Bing).
https://kisskh.at/20952-win-the-world

Even there are no censorship or tax evasion case, they are still not on air yet despite they already finished filming years ago.
*Su Ji (actress Li Lan Di)
https://kisskh.at/58983-su-ji
*Tale Of Xishi: Kingdom Rebuilt (actress Tong Li Ya & Chen Du Ling)
https://kisskh.at/61941-wan-xi-sha
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Replying to Terra1000 Jul 26, 2024
Title The Double
One thing I noticed when I was watching the Princess Royal, is that the lead actress articulation sounds a bit…
Main actress name in The Princess Royal is Zhao Jin Mai while main actor name is Zhang Ling He. Zhao Jin Mai used her own voice though in The Princess Royal. Zhang Ling He was voiced by Yi Fan.

It seem they rushed the post-production for The Princess Royal to get it on air after The Double even when The Princess Royal just finished filming on February 2024. Some people speculated that they rushed because the director didn't want his The Princess Royal may get shelved like his previous dramas. List of this director dramas:
https://kisskh.at/people/62655-go-yik-chun

Zhang Ling He couldn't dub himself for that drama since they rushed to get it on air while he is busy filming his other drama.
Look at bracket (voiced by...) under title "cast" to know the name of voice actor/actress for the drama.
https://wiki.d-addicts.com/The_Princess_Royal
https://x.com/dailyzlinghe/status/1809123531072155919

One of main reason for dubbing in Chinese dramas especially costume dramas (historical, xianxia, wuxia, xuanhuan):
https://x.com/triplem11543909/status/1813361591121011026

Sometimes, even if the actors/actresses have good diction, they still need to dub themselves because the noise during filming make their voice unclear.

In drama The Double, Wang Xing Yue dubbed himself while Wu Jin Yan dubbed by Qiu Qiu. But Wu Jin Yan mentioned in one of her previous live that she will do dub herself for her next costume drama with Liu Xue Yi, Love Me Kill Me.
https://x.com/triplem11543909/status/1813152320450097462
https://kisskh.at/680797-chun-hua-yan
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On Iron Family Jul 21, 2024
Title Iron Family
Drama: Iron Family
Episodes:36

Main actor: Kim Jung Hyun
-majored in acting at the Korea National University of Arts

Main actress: Geum Sae Rok
-bachelor of arts and department of acting from Seoul Institute of the Arts

Screenwriter: Seo Sook Hyung
Some of her dramas that I watch:
-Pasta (2010)
-Jealousy Incarnate (2016)
-Wok Of Love (2018)
https://kisskh.at/people/16988-seo-sook-hyang

As someone that not only watch Korean dramas, but also other Asian dramas like Japanese, Thailand, Chinese, I have no problem in watching a drama more than 16 episodes LOL

Since the screenwriter has two talented main casts, I hope she write a good script for them. Please don't waste their talent for this drama, screenwriter!
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Replying to Terra1000 Jul 21, 2024
Title The Double
As I wait for the final episode dump by Netflix, I realize that I've only ever manage to complete two cdrama series…
Not really, the rule of 40 episodes for one drama is actually short for Chinese costume dramas especially if the dramas was adapted from novels. Not to mention another rule is it's just 45 minutes for one episode of drama.

At the beginning when drama The Double was on air, there were posts on weibo about some peoples complained to authority because the duration of this drama was about 50 minutes until almost one hour long for one episode so they cut it out. Many audiences on mydramalist believe it's just a rumor but I believe they really cut it out. The next episodes until final episode that aired after the complained issue were just about 46 minutes until 48 minutes long.

Wu Jin Yan mentioned there is more scene after main couple hug after Xue Fang Fei blocked the sword.
https://x.com/dandelions_star/status/1809393630353977685
This sweet scene happen after they already acknowledged each other feeling.
https://x.com/lycheefrost/status/1804009123177972151
https://x.com/salmanholicbhai/status/1803699809120866539
This scene happen before they married.
https://x.com/dandelions_star/status/1806682507662004285
Main couple hug scene. Based on the Xue Fang Fei hairstyle, this happen after they married.
https://x.com/dandelions_star/status/1807985176875880556

There are other main couple scene that get cut out from drama based on some fan made video that I watch on bilibili (Chinese social media like youtube) before this but that videos got deleted now so I couldn't share with other people here.

Since The Double was one of Yu Zheng's drama, just like his other dramas, the scenes between main couple are minimal so maybe that's why people don't realize much if main couple sweet scenes were deleted.

I'm curious about the duration for the next Yu Zheng's dramas:
-Family drama starred by Wang Xing Yue & Lu Yu Xiao, Perfect Match.
https://kisskh.at/760155-perfect-match
-Xianxia drama starred by Bai Lu & Zheng Sun Xi, There Is A Fox In Hengmen.
https://kisskh.at/762931-heng-men-you-hu

Since one of the reason Yu Zheng become popular is because of his lousy personality that pissed off many people, maybe there will be people complained again to authority if his next dramas airing for more than 45 minutes per episode.
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On Empress Reborn Jul 19, 2024
I think all main actresses for future dramas adapted from Qian Shan Cha Ke novels will be rising actresses or actresses that take many supporting role before, not actresses that already popular long before and active until now in main roles.

Look at dramas already filmed:

The Double: actress Wu Jin Yan
-she debuted since 2011 in a movie & become well-known because of her main role Story Of Yanxi Palace in 2018 but then she in hiatus with just a guest role in 2022 & a supporting role in 2023. She rising back in popularity in 2024 because of The Double.
https://kisskh.at/people/15799-wu-jin-yan

Legend Of The Female General: actress Zhou Ye
-she debuted since 2019 in a movie and after that she keep rising as an actresses with main role in many dramas.
https://kisskh.at/people/33785-zhou-ye

The Glory: actress Chen Du Ling
-she debuted since 2015 in a movie & a drama. She become well-known because of main role in Love In Flames Of War in 2022 but after that she also take many supporting role & guest role in dramas other than main role.
https://kisskh.at/people/11563-chen-du-ling

Main actors for The Double, Legend Of The Female General, The Glory are also similar. They are rising as actors after become well-known in dramas as supporting roles before.

Actresses like Zhao Lu Si, Bai Lu, Yang Zi are already popular and active in main roles unlike Wu Jin Yan, Zhou Ye & Chen Du Ling so I don't think they will act in these Qian Shan Cha Ke's novel adaptation.
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Replying to Vervik Jul 19, 2024
Title The Glory
I hope it will have more romance than double🥲
The Double was produced by Yu Zheng, founder of Huanyu Film agency who is also the manager of both main actor (Wang Xing Yue) & main actress (Wu Jin Yan) in drama The Double.

I watch dramas produced by Yu Zheng other than The Double & usually his dramas have these characteristics:
-minimal romance for main couple
-minimal screentimes for main couple being together
-minimal screentimes for main male lead
-more screentimes for second male lead, second female lead
-more screentimes for second couple romance being together
-some dramas have ambiguous ending

Why? I also don't know. That just Yu Zheng styles for his dramas.
You can check other dramas produced by Yu Zheng here:
https://kisskh.at/people/19266-yu-zheng

Don't worry, The Glory will has more romance for main couple more than The Double because I watch other dramas by screenwriter for The Glory and their main couple have more screentime & romance between them.
You can check other dramas by screenwriter for The Glory here:
https://kisskh.at/people/80149-cao-xiao-tian
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Replying to TaliaToo Jul 18, 2024
Title The Double
Will The Doublets who have been hanging out here with me--posting analyses, posting links, posting helpful replies,…
Thank you for your analyses so far, it's always a pleasure for me to read them, no matter how long they are.

My suggestion, you post your analyses on comment section & also on your recent discussion page. If you paste here, other old & recent audiences will interacts with you & if you paste on recent discussion future audiences will get more understanding based on your shared info.

But this is only my suggestion, it's up to you.
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Replying to Enzek Jul 18, 2024
1) Drama: The Long Ballad (2021)Main actress: Dilireba - voiced by Qiao Shi Yu2) Drama: Wonderland Of Love (2023)Main…
I look at multiple websites.
I look at Chinese website like Baidu, Baike using google translation because I'm myself don't know Chinese language LOL

For example, you want to search about Story Of Kunning Palace.
https://kisskh.at/719227-ning-an-ru-meng
At the info on mydramalist page, you see the "native title" under "related content".
The native title for the drama Story Of Kunning Palace is 宁安如梦.
So you copy paste the native title, 宁安如梦 with name of website on google search.

Copy paste the native title, 宁安如梦 Baidu on google search, you get:
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%AE%81%E5%AE%89%E5%A6%82%E6%A2%A6/59936692
Copy paste the native title, 宁安如梦 Baike on google search, you get:
https://baike.sogou.com/m/fullLemma?lid=210219650

Other English website, dramawiki, look under "cast", it tell (voiced by...)
https://wiki.d-addicts.com/Story_of_Kunning_Palace

But since these websites are updated by peoples, fans, you need to wait for some time like months after dramas finished airing before to know the info.

Sometimes, there no updated info about voiced by who on dramawiki, but when you check on Baidu, Baike using google translation, there's info about it.

It also based on popularity and what year that drama on air because well, we get all that from fans, right. If that drama is popular you might got more info about it on Baidu, Baike, dramawiki. If that drama was aired recently, the info about voiced by who will be more complete than older dramas that aired on year 2018/2019/2020 that why I posted "This is the result from my search so if I'm incorrect, anyone please feel free to correct me." on my comment above.

For recent Chinese dramas especially the popular dramas, you could asked about voiced by who (dub) on that drama page on mydramalist because many peoples who know Chinese language or from China themselves will reply to your question.
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Replying to Brabra Jul 17, 2024
Title The Double Spoiler
I don't want to spoil the fun of this drama for anyone. Beware spoiler warning, if you were satisfied with the…
Btw, if you like drama The Double you might like to watch when other dramas adapted from Qian Shan Cha Ke novels be on air later.
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Replying to Enzek Jul 17, 2024
Title The Double Spoiler
The novel is happy ending.All Qian Shan Cha Ke novels are happy ending anyway.It's director that change it to…
Even with more episode, I doubt it will be better if the director is a sadist since he give this drama ending like that.

This drama was filmed in 2023 but I read on X that about a week before the drama's ending on air, Youku dicussed with main actor, Wang Xing Yue about the ending.

The Double become unexpected hit during on air despite both main casts, Wang Xing Yue & Wu Jin Yan are not traffic actor/actress yet before this so Youku milked this drama to gain more profit by changing the schedule for the airing time so the fans need to pay more to watch the episodes early. I think Youku scared the fans will scold them about the ambiguous ending of this drama so they try to give a more clear ending for this drama.

At first Youku asked Wang Xing Yue to do voice record for the narrative for ending but then Wang Xing Yue discussed with the drama director & producer so they filmed the extra episode for the drama.

Both main casts, Wang Xing Yue & Wu Jin Yan are both under Huanyu Film agency and Yu Zheng, their manager is also the producer of this drama so it easy for them to film the extra episode.

Despite the 12 years old age gap between main casts, they both are comfortable with each other offscreen during filming & give good cooperation when filming kiss scenes.

Yet the director is a conservative person (Wu Jin Yan rightly said that to him during filming extra episode) so he rejected for more kiss scenes.
https://x.com/afterrnoont/status/1806197236419956768
https://x.com/afterrnoont/status/1806906720930922856
https://x.com/lycheefrost/status/1806362102514282972

It's a shame because Wang Xing Yue & Wu Jin Yan have so much chemistry together like we can see in their photoshoot and variety show, Hello Saturday.
https://x.com/dramapotatoe/status/1812708418991337898
https://x.com/dramapotatoe/status/1812691693696663879
https://x.com/dramapotatoe/status/1812716615370166615

A clip with some of their interactions in Hello Saturday. Sadly no English subtitle.
https://youtu.be/n5CEk896t5M?si=paPzc2Y8EslajJJ_
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Replying to Brabra Jul 17, 2024
Title The Double Spoiler
I don't want to spoil the fun of this drama for anyone. Beware spoiler warning, if you were satisfied with the…
The novel is happy ending.
All Qian Shan Cha Ke novels are happy ending anyway.
It's director that change it to be ending like the drama.
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Replying to Tilcho82 Jul 17, 2024
how many of these are lip synced
1) Drama: The Long Ballad (2021)
Main actress: Dilireba - voiced by Qiao Shi Yu

2) Drama: Wonderland Of Love (2023)
Main actress: Jing Tian - voiced by Liu Xiao Yu

3) Drama: Ancient Love Poetry (2021)
Main actress: Zhou Dong Yu - voiced by Ji Guan Lin

4) Drama: A Dream Of Splendor (2022)
Main actress: Liu Yi Fei - voiced by actress herself

5) Drama: Love Like The Galaxy (2022)
Main actress: Zhao Lu Si - voiced by actress herself

6) Drama: Novoland: Pearl Eclipse (2021)
Main actress: Yang Mi - voiced by actress herself

7) Drama: Story Of Kunning Palace (2023)
Main actress: Bai Lu - voiced by actress herself

8) Drama: Ruyi's Royal Love In The Palace (2018)
Main actress: Zhou Xun - voiced by actress herself

9) Drama: Bloody Romance (2018)
Main actress: Li Yi Tong - voiced by actress herself

10) Drama: Love Between Fairy And Devil (2022)
Main actress: Yu Shu Xin - voiced by actress herself

This is the result from my search so if I'm incorrect, anyone please feel free to correct me.
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Replying to Fujihara Tomomi Jul 15, 2024
The urge to do fan edits to all of the ideas I have in my mind for this drama, but I can't cuz THE FREAKING DRAMA…
The Glory, another drama adapted from Qian Shan Cha Ke novel just finished filming few days ago yet they already released a trailer.
https://youtu.be/mt7-zht1G98?si=OUCwqgX2V7jAe-7r

This drama already finished filming few months ago yet still no trailer.
Maybe they want to give the best result for the fans that's why they still not released any trailer yet LOL
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Replying to Emoji Jul 15, 2024
Person Wu Jin Yan
Honestly, I don’t care about her male lead, I just want her to start her project soon, so I will see her in…
To me, main actor also contribute to the drama other than script.
Imagine when Wu Jin Yan has many scenes with her main actor and she gives her all for her performance yet the main actor is as stiff as wood.

I don't care whether the main actor is older/same age/younger or not well known, as long as he can act, I'm happy enough.
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Replying to Gywndolas Jul 15, 2024
Person Wu Jin Yan
i want to see her with Wang Xingyue again, their Chemistry is no joke, they can't waste it with just one drama…
I think they will by get unite again by Yu Zheng (producer of The Double and manager of Wang Xing Yue & Wu Jin Yan) but actually because it is Yu Zheng's drama it's annoy me.

Btw, did you see their Bazar photoshoot?
https://x.com/dramapotatoe/status/1812708418991337898
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Replying to Emoji Jul 15, 2024
Person Wu Jin Yan
I’m waiting for the official announcement of her new project. It’s still nothing information I can get 😏
I want her with to choose a good script with an actor that has good acting skill for next project.

Wang Xing Yue and Li Xue Yi have background in acting as they both graduated from Central Academy Of Drama.

I hope her next drama will be with talented actor too >_<
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