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Actually, I'd enjoy seeing Pisaeng trying to move on, while Kawee slowly comes to the realization that he's bi.

I think a lot of us queer people have had the experience of crushing on a straight person, knowing it won't happen. I think it would fit the story if we saw Pisaeng working to get over his crush while staying good friends with Kawee; meanwhile, Kawee is on his journey of self-discovery, and ultimately realizes he has strong feelings for his friend.

That just feels, to me, like it would be a fitting narrative for this story, since the show is so focused on themes on growth, self-discovery, courage, failure, and acceptance.

I am calling a character who hasn't yet had his awakening "straight". At this stage in the story, as it has been told so far, Kawee is identified as hetero. Obviously, that will change, because this is a BL, but the story hasn't reached that point yet. I am reacting to the story where it is NOW.

Welcome to the Club of Unpopular Opinions, lol!

Maybe it's something about the way this story is being told, & the depth these characters have been given, in a way unusual for many Thai BLs. I would be perfectly happy if they stayed good friends, supporting one another to be their best selves.

Perhaps what would swing my opinion is seeing Pisaeng openly dating other men, learning more about himself and the community. I know Kawee is going to have a sexual awakening but, right now, he's a "straight" guy, and I'm just not interested in watching Pisaeng pine after a "straight" man while he's discovering himself. It just strikes me as a bit...juvenile, perhaps, in a show with otherwise compelling storytelling. Just a bit trope-y when the story has subverted or avoided so many other BL clichés.

At this stage, the story has not progressed to the chapter where Kawee explores his sexuality. While that is obviously the direction it's headed, based on the story so far, I would be perfectly satisfied if Pisaeng and Kawi remained friends, and the story followed the two of them on their individual journeys.

I adored how Pisaeng's inner conflict was depicted; it resonated so hard with me, watching him standing, indecisive, a little scared, outside that bar. I've been there, I remember that feeling, I remember how liberating it was to conquer that fear.

I loved watching Kawee find the courage to just try—to apply as a student rep, to sing in front of people, to pursue Pear. I haven't rooted for a character so much in a long while.

My (highly unpopular) opinion about them being together may change as the story progresses but, right now, I'm actually less interested in their coupling than I am in their personal growth.

That is not at all what I said.

There was something exceedingly anticlimactic about this episode.

He has such nuance in his performance. I am impressed,and would also love to see him in a variety of projects. I bet he'd absolutely kill in an action show.

Which has been such a breath of fresh air! BL has come a long way when it comes to the complexities of Human sexuality. I don't expect it to fully reflect queer media, of course, as BL occupies a specific space with a specific audience, but I have been thrilled with all the BLs that let the characters be NOT straight.

I did not assume he was straight; I used quotation marks specifically to indicate that.

I'm queer myself, & yes, it is good to have representation. The show hasn't yet dived into the story of Kawee realizing his bisexuality, hence my use of the quotation marks.

And I do sincerely hope that's the route it goes with Kawee, rather than "I'm not gay, I just like you!" I will be so disappointed if this show pulls that trope.

I thought the episode did a good job of communicating, in a short time, Pisaeng's inner conflicts and journey toward accepting himself. For me, that was the most interesting part of the episode.

I'm watching because I enjoy the writing, the storytelling, and the characters.

Hence why I put "straight" in quotation marks.

I really enjoy this show & I know the endgame but, honestly, I don't want Pisaeng & Kawee to get together. The show did a good job this episode of depicting Pisaeng's journey to coming to terms with his sexuality, & I would love to see Pisaeng in a relationship with another gay man.

In many ways, that the show is about a "straight" guy getting together with a gay man does a disservice to the layers of story & character we're getting with Pisaeng. Let Kawee get with Pear, & let Pisaeng find someone else. Someone like Max: supportive, frank, &, you know, gay.

Right? I said "What?" at exactly the same time as Pat said "Huh?" because what a remarkably stupid idea.

"Make the baby stay put!" had me on the ground. I had to rewind it twice then finally just pause it until I could stop laughing. & Ben's delivery of that line was one of his best in the series. Seriously, Ben made me a fan-for-life with that line reading alone.

I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt because it seems he's grappling with a sexual awakening at a relatively "late" stage of development, & it doesn't seem like he's had many (if any) hetero romances (& if he did, obviously not successful ones), so I can see how all of that contributes to his being denser than a supermassive blackhole.

But then Liu Hao Shan gave him a reality check, Komachi Shimizu slapped a wake-up call into him, Miki Mahiro spoke his piece, honestly confessed his feelings & his intentions, & Ichijo Sota just...sat there. Just.. sat there, & let Mahiro walk out the door without a word.

I could hear the collective face-palm of Sota's Grandmother & all her ancestors.

I certainly shouted at him, "Yes, yes you are!" in agreement.

Agreed! I expected this episode to be them finally finding the courage to set themselves free. The whole time I was watching that dinner scene, I kept wondering if I'd completely misremembered the previous episode. I know it's hard to give up on a lengthy-ish relationship, especially when your lives are intertwined, but good grief. They didn't even look convinced going home was a good idea.

I was actually relieved by Patis's actions at the end of the episode. Whatever speeds this decaying corpse of a relationship faster to its grave is a-ok by me. Although I realize the show may try to reconcile them in the end which, all right, but its got to break completely before they can kintsugi it back together.

I am not a Pawin fan. I don't find him "sassy" or endearing, & his antics don't amuse me. He's as immature, self-centered, & bitchy as Mintra, he just looks better while doing it because he's the male rival of a female in a BL. And while he certainly treats Korn better than does Mintra (though that is a bar so low it's subterranean), his petty personality traits when Korn isn't around to see are distasteful.

Long-term, I just think Korn is better off without either of them. While I'm at it, I don't care for Korn much either but he's the least unlikeable of that triangle, so I'm mostly rooting for him.